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Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« on: May 25, 2008, 11:12:58 AM »
A speech she made in California recently.

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"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zone . . . Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual - uninvolved, uninformed."

Authoritarian much? O_o

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/05/25/michelle_obama_is_fair_game/

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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2008, 11:16:38 AM »
Sing along...

"But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow"
"Domari nolo."

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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2008, 11:17:11 AM »
Horst wessel leid, Michelle. rolleyes  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQBhxOFjCn0

Manewolf, she is just awful, a screaming communists with a filthy mouth, even in front of the kids.  I remember hear going on carpet chewing fits just over the first Bush child care refund (was that 2002?) and that was in public in the little park in the middle of the condo complex.

Most terrifying thing, she really believes it.
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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2008, 11:18:24 AM »
A speech she made in California recently.

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"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zone . . . Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual - uninvolved, uninformed."

Authoritarian much? O_o

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/05/25/michelle_obama_is_fair_game/
What she doesn't want to realize is that many people are involved and informed. That's why they aren't voting for Obama.

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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2008, 11:37:27 AM »
She's welcome to come here and TRY to drag me out of my comfortable isolation....

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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2008, 11:45:30 AM »
What she doesn't want to realize is that many people are involved and informed. That's why they aren't voting for Obama.

The full text of the speech:  http://fedpapers.blogspot.com/2008/02/michelle-obamas-speech-ucla-two-weeks.html

People should definately go after her if this is what she is saying, after all she is going around making these speeches on his behalf. 
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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2008, 02:16:12 PM »
Yet another Obama supporter mindlessly repeating the mantra of "Yes, we can!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuKqWEYzhEA
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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2008, 05:01:17 PM »
What she doesn't want to realize is that many people are involved and informed. That's why they aren't voting for Obama.

The full text of the speech:  http://fedpapers.blogspot.com/2008/02/michelle-obamas-speech-ucla-two-weeks.html

People should definately go after her if this is what she is saying, after all she is going around making these speeches on his behalf. 

But Barry says to lay off his wife.  HE's the one running for President.
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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2008, 05:20:21 PM »
He's running--but on HER platform.
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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2008, 06:37:52 PM »
What she meant to say- "Arbeit macht frei"!

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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2008, 07:04:01 PM »
I just never realized the President of the United States had the ability to mandate that you have no choice.

Apparently, she thinks so.

And thankfully, the pundits have picked up this one, and are disturbed.

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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2008, 08:08:56 PM »
How do you all feel, reading this, about the fact that George Bush has fought hard to establish the principle that the President may detain American citizens and bar access to civilian courts at will so long as the president alleges that it is part of the "war on terror"?

How safe do you feel with the powers that come with "enemy combatant" classification in the hands of the next executive?

Is this a power you want Obama, whose wife is saying things like this already, to have?
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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2008, 09:05:06 PM »
How do you all feel, reading this, about the fact that George Bush has fought hard to establish the principle that the President may detain American citizens and bar access to civilian courts at will so long as the president alleges that it is part of the "war on terror"?

How safe do you feel with the powers that come with "enemy combatant" classification in the hands of the next executive?

Is this a power you want Obama, whose wife is saying things like this already, to have?

Only you could turn a Michelle Obama quote into lame Bush-bashing.  rolleyes

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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2008, 09:10:55 PM »
Now Manedwolf, you know that's not true....Paddy has yet to chime in.

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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2008, 09:20:23 PM »
Sorry, but that isn't Bush bashing-it is a point I was making during the Clinton years to all the cheerleaders for his style of executive rule-yeah, you're happy now....but how good is this "president does what he wants" trend going to be when someone you don't like gets office?

They all got the point with 8 years of George Bush.

Now we're all going to get the point starting in 2008....ignoring abuses of power and unchecked executive authority when your man is in office will ultimately turn on you.  It's a simple rule that 50 percent of the population is happy to ignore during any given term, to the detriment of the entire country in the long run.
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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2008, 10:22:47 PM »
How do you all feel, reading this, about the fact that George Bush has fought hard to establish the principle that the President may detain American citizens and bar access to civilian courts at will so long as the president alleges that it is part of the "war on terror"?

How safe do you feel with the powers that come with "enemy combatant" classification in the hands of the next executive?

Is this a power you want Obama, whose wife is saying things like this already, to have?

Only you could turn a Michelle Obama quote into lame Bush-bashing.  rolleyes


Additional executive powers have been introduced, to be used in the case of emergencies. They have been introduced by Bush, but will now be in the hands of a leftist who hates everything America stands for.

How could anything possibly go wrong with this?
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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2008, 03:57:47 AM »
I hate to pee in anyone's cheerios, but GWB has done and proposed no powers not exercised by his predecessors.

From Woodrow Wilson through FDR to GWB, such authority has been claimed and used...and in most cases, upheld by SCOTUS when challenged.
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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2008, 04:47:03 AM »
but.....but.....I thought.....Bushhittler? Huh?undecided

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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2008, 04:56:54 AM »
Only you could turn a Michelle Obama quote into lame Bush-bashing.  rolleyes
Be that as it may, he has a valid point.  President Bush has fought tooth and nail for 8 years to give the President all kinds of powers the President shouldn't have.  Unfortunately, every President afterwards is going to have those same powers.
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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2008, 08:56:34 AM »
I hate to pee in anyone's cheerios, but GWB has done and proposed no powers not exercised by his predecessors.

From Woodrow Wilson through FDR to GWB, such authority has been claimed and used...and in most cases, upheld by SCOTUS when challenged.

Which means, what?

Of course Bush is not OMG HITLER. Anybody who thinks that is an idiot, or not reading a history book.

But Presidential authority in particular, and executive authority in general, has been expanding continuously at least from FDR, and possibly from Wilson, dovetailing nicely with the general growth of Federal power.
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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2008, 09:05:39 AM »
Only you could turn a Michelle Obama quote into lame Bush-bashing.  rolleyes
Be that as it may, he has a valid point.  President Bush has fought tooth and nail for 8 years to give the President all kinds of powers the President shouldn't have.  Unfortunately, every President afterwards is going to have those same powers.

I know this is something of a heresy here, but this is why I like McCain's notion that you should have a similar, weekly event like our Prime Ministers Questions.  It is damnedly good fun to see the likes of Blair and Brown have to defend themselves against verbal attacks, or be made to look complete fools.  Either way, it usually contributes to pricking their ego-bubbles.

a good example:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xUy2inkGHQ&feature=related  (this is when the Tory comeback began)
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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2008, 10:17:49 AM »
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GWB has done and proposed no powers not exercised by his predecessors.

Like Lincoln, for instance ...  angry
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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2008, 10:27:19 AM »
I hate to pee in anyone's cheerios, but GWB has done and proposed no powers not exercised by his predecessors.

From Woodrow Wilson through FDR to GWB, such authority has been claimed and used...and in most cases, upheld by SCOTUS when challenged.

Which means, what?

Of course Bush is not OMG HITLER. Anybody who thinks that is an idiot, or not reading a history book.

But Presidential authority in particular, and executive authority in general, has been expanding continuously at least from FDR, and possibly from Wilson, dovetailing nicely with the general growth of Federal power.

First off, such powers have been in the power of the opposition, before.  GWB did not, as you implied and others have stated outright, all the sudden come up with a raft of new powers to exercise and use to beat up on pore, starvin' Johnny Wannabe Jihadis.  For the love of Pete, Wilson's administration arrested, prosecuted, & jailed American citizens for protesting America's involvement in WWI.  "Sedition" it was called.  FDR jailed thousands of Americans of Japanese and German and Italian heritage during WWII.

Yet, WW & FDR are icons of the left and what goes for the elites in this country, and GWB is "Bushitler."  Gimme a break.

Second, I totally agree with your last sentence.  It has been a process completed over time to expand fed.gov authority and shrink all other possible challengers to that authority.

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GWB has done and proposed no powers not exercised by his predecessors.

Like Lincoln, for instance ...  angry
Yep, GWB is a softy compared with Lincoln, WW, & FDR.

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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2008, 10:55:47 AM »
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Yet, WW & FDR are icons of the left and what goes for the elites in this country, and GWB is "Bushitler."  Gimme a break.

What do you want with me? Am I a leftist? Am I a wealthy American media magnate?

My problem with Bushis only as follows:

He had a Republican opportunity unprecedented in 40 years. He had unbelievable political capital. He had a majority in both Houses.

He chose to use it to expand the size of government, and to avoid introducing any kind of serious change.

But now, anything that went wrong, will be attributed by the media to 'conservatism', and people will buy it, even though a lot of these failures are due to him being insufficiently conservative, or aren't failures at all. This will make things worse for all conservatives and their political allies.

And Obama will be in charge.

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Re: Michelle Obama says something even scarier...
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2008, 12:35:56 PM »
Whoa! Big surprise! SS has succeeded in completely derailing yet another thread on APS! Who could have seen that coming?
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