So was Hitler elected. And when EVER is it fairly implemented? Have you forgotten that little item called human nature? We were in a titanic battle against Communist world domination.
Yes, Hitler was elected. However, he did not start to show his true colours until after the Reichtag fire. He blamed the commies, and suspended parts of the Constitution. Then in the elections, they used the Reichtag fire to scream about the communist threat in order to get more votes. So, in reality, Hitler became a monster after he gutted the Weimar Constitution and seized dictatorship. I'd argue that Hitler was more a example of why not to gut our Constitution than an example against democracy.
Yes, we fought a cold war against the Communists. We won through economics, rather than the field of battle. You might have noticed the lack of US tanks outside the Kremlin and the fact that the world doesn't glow at night.
We're in one now against the Islamofascists.
Indeed, we are at war with the Wahabbis. But comparing them to the Nazis and Commies slightly overrates their abilities and facilities. The Nazis killed millions, and Commies killed tens of millions. They are nowhere near the threat that the Nazis or Commies posed. This is not to completely discount them, but merely to put them in perspective.
I DON'T like democracy, it contains the seeds of its own destruction and so far, has ALWAYS failed. So will ours.
No govt lives forever. Nations are born, they live their time, and then they fall apart. Always.
Out of mere curiousity, why do you dislike democracy? You're entitled to your opinion, and no one says you have to love democracy. I'm more partial to Constitutional Republics (which is a form of democracy, but not pure democracy), but to each their own. Do you dislike the US Constitution also, as it spells out how democracy in the US is to be implemented?
Pandering for votes the pols have already pxssed away many, many times our gross national product -- way beyond recovery. When off-budget obligations are taken into account, there is little likelihood that we can save our political system. It might be theoretically possible, but it's politically impossible -- for the same reasons that democracy cannot work. Do you think our "democracy" will survive the coming economic disaster?
Tell me again, why was it that Hitler and the Nazis got ELECTED?
We shall see, won't we?
Ok. Hitler used the burning of the Reichstag to gut their Constitution, and then rigged an election to gain enough seats to pass the Enabling Act, gutting the Constitution even more. So, destroying Constitutions and rigging elections got the Nazi Party fully in control.
As one of the founding fathers said: Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for supper. A constitutional republic is a well-armed lamb contesting that vote.
But a constitutional republic requires an educated (not brain-washed and dumbed-down, as we now get in our government compounds for restraining the young), a moral and a responsible citizenry. Look around you. See much evidence of that?
Food stamps and cable TV -- can you spell BREAD AND CIRCUSES?
Yep.
The dilemna is vexing; it may be insoluble. In internal, national matters The constitution is close to holy. When it comes to winning against an enemy who aims to destroy you AND your "democracy" and who will stop at NOTHING to do so, I believe it neccessary to do what it takes to survive and win.
So far, from the civil war on down, parts of the constitution have been "suspended" and then PARTLY restored after the emergency.
As as someone else said: The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
Ends justify the means, eh? Even if it means suspending the Constitution? Well, it certainly worked for Hitler suspending the German Constitution, as you already pointed out.
Sorry, but there is NO easy answer. There are many reason why democracy cannot work. But even without the others, democracy cannot ultimately survive major war and, contrary to the mindless left-liberals, major war cannot be avoided, either.
Some worship gods; others worship democracy.
I've finally come to prefer the G-d of our fathers.
matis
Democracy only works if the people make it work. When the people give up on it... Heh, well... You're right, though. There is no easy answer.
Some folks worship Gods and respect democracy.
