Post by: wmenorr67 on July 24, 2008, 12:21:00 AM
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Cops: Utah motorist pulled gun on mustard-seeking prankster
JULY 23--Meet Vitaly Kovtun. According to Utah cops, Kovtun was behind the wheel last month when a car pulled up to his SUV at an intersection. After gesturing to the 22-year-old Kovtun to roll down his window, passenger Stephen Cox asked, "Excuse me, sir, do you have any Grey Poupon?" Kovtun responded, police charge, by pulling a handgun from his glove compartment, cocking the weapon, and leveling it at the prankster's auto. "Here's your Grey Poupon, roll your f***ing windows up," Kovtun said, according to a probable cause affidavit. Kovtun was charged yesterday for the June 18 incident, having been tracked down by cops after another occupant of the second car wrote down his license plate number. When questioned by police, Kovtun admitted that he, "pulled out his handgun and racked the slide back towards the victims in a threatening manner," according to the July 22 District Court affidavit. Charged with felony aggravated assault, Kovtun was booked yesterday into the Salt Lake County jail, where the below mug shot was snapped.
JULY 23--Meet Vitaly Kovtun. According to Utah cops, Kovtun was behind the wheel last month when a car pulled up to his SUV at an intersection. After gesturing to the 22-year-old Kovtun to roll down his window, passenger Stephen Cox asked, "Excuse me, sir, do you have any Grey Poupon?" Kovtun responded, police charge, by pulling a handgun from his glove compartment, cocking the weapon, and leveling it at the prankster's auto. "Here's your Grey Poupon, roll your f***ing windows up," Kovtun said, according to a probable cause affidavit. Kovtun was charged yesterday for the June 18 incident, having been tracked down by cops after another occupant of the second car wrote down his license plate number. When questioned by police, Kovtun admitted that he, "pulled out his handgun and racked the slide back towards the victims in a threatening manner," according to the July 22 District Court affidavit. Charged with felony aggravated assault, Kovtun was booked yesterday into the Salt Lake County jail, where the below mug shot was snapped.
That is why you don't go around hollering at people that you don't know.
Post by: De Selby on July 24, 2008, 12:25:23 AM
Post by: wmenorr67 on July 24, 2008, 12:30:57 AM
Post by: LadySmith on July 24, 2008, 12:49:31 AM
I am not saying it is ok for the guy to pull the gun and threaten people, but showing an example of why you don't go around these days pulling stunts like this. It could have easily gotten worse for both sides.
True. Humans are strange - stay away from them.TMIf convicted, I suspect they're going to really, really, really like young Vitaly in prison.
Post by: De Selby on July 24, 2008, 12:51:31 AM
I am not saying it is ok for the guy to pull the gun and threaten people, but showing an example of why you don't go around these days pulling stunts like this. It could have easily gotten worse for both sides.
Agreed-I was saying more in the line of "hey, glad those turkeys took the heat for the rest of us....now we know he's a psycho."
Definitely not smart on the part of the pranksters...
Post by: De Selby on July 24, 2008, 12:52:45 AM
I am not saying it is ok for the guy to pull the gun and threaten people, but showing an example of why you don't go around these days pulling stunts like this. It could have easily gotten worse for both sides.
True. Humans are strange - stay away from them.TMIf convicted, I suspect they're going to really, really, really like young Vitaly in prison.
If he's that unbalanced, it may just turn out that Vitaly ends up being the guy some other hapless inmate was warned about...
Post by: seeker_two on July 24, 2008, 01:32:23 AM
Post by: wmenorr67 on July 24, 2008, 01:35:00 AM
Good thing the kid didn't ask for barbecue sauce.....I've seen fistfights over barbecue sauce.....
Seeker, do you not remember the Grey Poupon commercials?
Post by: seeker_two on July 24, 2008, 01:46:49 AM
Good thing the kid didn't ask for barbecue sauce.....I've seen fistfights over barbecue sauce.....
Seeker, do you not remember the Grey Poupon commercials?
Yep....you ever been to a serious barbecue competition?.....it can get cut-throat, sometimes.....
Post by: wmenorr67 on July 24, 2008, 01:49:33 AM
Post by: HankB on July 24, 2008, 03:56:24 AM
I just ignore and try to avoid those who show annoying behavior - I'm not going to escalate things to the next level by responding in kind. (Which would be a bad idea, as I'm normally armed when I'm behind the wheel. "Escalation" is a bad word if you're licensed to carry a gun in Texas.)
On the (very) rare occasions when some actual road rager tries to start something with me, I smile, shrug, wave, and let the effing idiot think I'm apologizing for whatever the heck he thinks I did. HE gets to drive off thinking he's alpha-male King of the Road, and I don't have to shoot him.
That's a good outcome in my book.
Post by: Nitrogen on July 24, 2008, 04:09:02 AM
I'm almost glad they hollered at this guy-now he's got a record to give the world notice that he's a psycho. Hopefully he'll be permanently deprived of the right to possess firearms before this is all over.
You think he should be permanantly banned for owning firearms due to this incident?
That's stupid.
Surely, he should face some concequences, possibly a fine, jail, etc, but permanant ban from self defense?
No.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 24, 2008, 04:13:49 AM
I am not saying it is ok for the guy to pull the gun and threaten people, but showing an example of why you don't go around these days pulling stunts like this. It could have easily gotten worse for both sides.
According to my dad, it has also been done over the radio between a British Airways 747 and Learjet the latter had pulled up close with while waiting on clearances.
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 24, 2008, 04:15:55 AM
Post by: K Frame on July 24, 2008, 05:13:59 AM
I'm almost glad they hollered at this guy-now he's got a record to give the world notice that he's a psycho. Hopefully he'll be permanently deprived of the right to possess firearms before this is all over.
You think he should be permanantly banned for owning firearms due to this incident?
That's stupid.
Surely, he should face some concequences, possibly a fine, jail, etc, but permanant ban from self defense?
No.
Actually, I'd say yes.
If it transpired as it is reported, the man threatened someone with a deadly weapon for absolutely NO reason.
That's not just a felony in most states, it's a violent felony involving a firearm.
Sorry, but using a firearm in the commission of a felony should result in your loss of rights because you've proven that you're simply not responsible.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 24, 2008, 05:16:59 AM
I'm almost glad they hollered at this guy-now he's got a record to give the world notice that he's a psycho. Hopefully he'll be permanently deprived of the right to possess firearms before this is all over.
You think he should be permanantly banned for owning firearms due to this incident?
That's stupid.
Surely, he should face some concequences, possibly a fine, jail, etc, but permanant ban from self defense?
No.
Yes.
The only reason to pull a firearm is a lethal threat. This guy committed violent assault with a lethal weapon FOR NO REASON. Pointed the muzzle of a loaded firearm at another human being with the intent of deadly threat.
Jail, convicted felon, loss of firearms rights. People like this are the ones who kill innocent people.
Post by: Phyphor on July 24, 2008, 05:23:25 AM
I'm almost glad they hollered at this guy-now he's got a record to give the world notice that he's a psycho. Hopefully he'll be permanently deprived of the right to possess firearms before this is all over.
You think he should be permanantly banned for owning firearms due to this incident?
That's stupid.
Surely, he should face some concequences, possibly a fine, jail, etc, but permanant ban from self defense?
No.
Maybe not permanent, but the dude did pull out a weapon and threaten someone else with it over words
And not even an insult at that. A stupid joke like that should either get a laugh or an eyeroll, not a brandishing.
If that idiot can't handle firearms in a more responsible manner, he doesn't need them.
Post by: Tallpine on July 24, 2008, 08:21:11 AM
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Charged with felony aggravated assault
Should also charge him with felony failure to have a sense of humor
Post by: yesitsloaded on July 24, 2008, 08:38:37 AM
Post by: seeker_two on July 24, 2008, 09:24:39 AM
Yes I have. Worked some as security. All the free beer and bbq I could drink and eat, plus I got paid for it.
See.....they even need security at those BBQ competitions....
Actually, if someone knocked on my car window and asked for Grey Poupon, I'd tell them "Sorry. I don't have any. But I can introduce you to this guy named Ned......"
Post by: Declaration Day on July 24, 2008, 12:31:21 PM
Post by: charby on July 24, 2008, 12:31:57 PM
We used to pull the Grey Poupon prank all the time as teenagers. Not once did anyone get angry. Some people ignored us, most laughed like hell.
and the Bugle Boy jeans dealio also.
Post by: De Selby on July 24, 2008, 12:57:16 PM
I'm almost glad they hollered at this guy-now he's got a record to give the world notice that he's a psycho. Hopefully he'll be permanently deprived of the right to possess firearms before this is all over.
You think he should be permanantly banned for owning firearms due to this incident?
That's stupid.
Surely, he should face some concequences, possibly a fine, jail, etc, but permanant ban from self defense?
No.
Yep, I'd say jail, fine, AND permanent loss of self defense.
Even with those measures, this character is likely to make headlines again, probably for something a lot worse.
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on July 24, 2008, 01:41:24 PM
he wasn't in danger. he sounds like he has some serious rage issues, and rage issues don't mix with CCW.
not to mention the fact that if the brady bunch uses stories like this to screw us.
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 24, 2008, 01:47:30 PM
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Kovtun admitted that he, "pulled out his handgun and racked the slide back towards the victims in a threatening manner,"
Get a brain, morans.
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on July 24, 2008, 01:51:06 PM
You people are totally misreading this whole thing. According to the story, he pointed the gun at HIMSELF, and pulled the slide back toward the pranksters.
Get a brain, morans.
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Kovtun admitted that he, "pulled out his handgun and racked the slide back towards the victims in a threatening manner,"
Get a brain, morans.
fistful, your losing your touch. your post is very flat. just flat.
Post by: seeker_two on July 24, 2008, 03:34:29 PM
Get a brain, morans.
Who you callin' Joanie, Chachi?.......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Moran
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 25, 2008, 01:00:38 PM
Post by: yesitsloaded on July 25, 2008, 02:25:54 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 25, 2008, 07:07:12 PM
I hesitate to use a gambling term, as I do not understand them. My brain is incapable of processing the details of gambling, odds, and most things competitive.
Post by: bedlamite on July 25, 2008, 11:10:51 PM
