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Title: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Ben on October 14, 2022, 10:44:38 AM
I've never been to a Kroger, they are scarce as hen's teeth out West. Albertsons is a Boise based company, and in CA, you couldn't throw a rock without hitting one. Obviously they are all over Idaho as well. When I need to go to a "real" grocery store, I drive to the closest Albertsons, about 30min away. Their flagship store is around an hour from me, and it's ginormous. They have stuff like $4000 bottles of wine there.

For you guys with Krogers, what are they like?

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/business/article267300697.html?ac_cid=DM711565&ac_bid=1113591831
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 14, 2022, 10:58:32 AM
I don't think we've had any Krogers here in a while, but didn't the company go all anti-gun a few years ago?
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: MechAg94 on October 14, 2022, 11:06:34 AM
I don't think we've had any Krogers here in a while, but didn't the company go all anti-gun a few years ago?
Typical big corporation so probably.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: K Frame on October 14, 2022, 11:07:31 AM
Been to a Wegman's? Harris Teeter? Sort of like that.

Higher scale than HyVee or Safeway.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: K Frame on October 14, 2022, 11:09:15 AM
As far as I can tell Kroger's only firearms policy is asking customers not to open carry.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Northwoods on October 14, 2022, 11:21:07 AM
We usually shop at Fred Meyer which is part of Kroger.  Decent prices and quality.

I thought Safeway bought Albertsons a few years ago?
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Brad Johnson on October 14, 2022, 11:24:16 AM
Not surprised. That's kinda a Cerberus thing. Buy something cheap, usually a receivership or a bankruptcy asset acquisition, then bulk it up and sell it. They bought the Albertson's name and assets when Alby's went belly up, then started snapping up regional chains under the Albertson's banner. They IPO'd it at some point in the recent past but still have a 30% stake via shares. An eventual sale of the Albertson's corporate entity was always the presumption.

Brad
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: BobR on October 14, 2022, 11:55:43 AM
I thought they already owned Albertson's. The sale flyer I get in the mail every Wednesday is already sporting both Kroger and Albertson's names on it.

bob
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: MillCreek on October 14, 2022, 12:14:17 PM
We usually shop at Fred Meyer which is part of Kroger.  Decent prices and quality.

I thought Safeway bought Albertsons a few years ago?

I love Fred Meyer.  Any store at which I can buy food, paint, a pair of slacks, windshield wipers, and a waffle maker is OK in my book.  They have better food items than the local Walmarts, Safeways, and Albertson's.  The concern here is that will give Albertson's/Kroger a pretty effective grocery monopoly in Washington state.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: charby on October 14, 2022, 12:40:56 PM
Been to a Wegman's? Harris Teeter? Sort of like that.

Higher scale than HyVee or Safeway.

I would say Albertsons and HyVee are equal. Safeway to me is a more non frills grocery store.

My experience at Kroger is that they are more like a Safeway or Piggly Wiggly.

HyVee is our nicer grocery store in Iowa. HyVee also started in Iowa too.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: K Frame on October 14, 2022, 01:08:14 PM
It's been a few years since I've been to a Kroger, but they struck me as being a level above Safeway.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Ben on October 14, 2022, 02:01:42 PM
We usually shop at Fred Meyer which is part of Kroger.  Decent prices and quality.

I thought Safeway bought Albertsons a few years ago?

Oh, interesting. I didn't know Fred Meyer is under Kroger. We have lots of those.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: HankB on October 14, 2022, 03:53:02 PM
Albertson's closed its stores and moved out of the Austin, TX area over a decade back. I've never seen a Kroger store around here, but I've seen advertising that makes me think they may have some sort of affiliated grocery delivery service in town. The major grocers locally are HEB and Randall's, the latter being part of the Safeway brand.

When I was a youngster growing up in Chicago I remember my parents didn't like Kroger for some reason - there was something about Kroger's meat department they didn't like.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Declaration Day on October 14, 2022, 04:11:28 PM
Kroger has been here in Michigan my whole life.  They have a great selection of products at fair prices, except for steak or any form of beef; their prices on beef are ridiculously high.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Northwoods on October 14, 2022, 04:56:25 PM
Kroger has been here in Michigan my whole life.  They have a great selection of products at fair prices, except for steak or any form of beef; their prices on beef are ridiculously high.

The shitty local store we try to only go to occasionally had chicken breast for $6.48/lb.  Wasn’t even “organic”, just the same low quality stuff they always have.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Ben on October 14, 2022, 05:02:08 PM
Anyways, I guess I'm just hoping that this will end up more like what would have happened had Cabela's bought out Bass Pro, versus what did happen when Bass Pro bought out Cabela's.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: JN01 on October 14, 2022, 09:33:12 PM
I don't think we've had any Krogers here in a while, but didn't the company go all anti-gun a few years ago?

No. Several years ago Shannon Watts from Everytown for gun control tried to pressure them to post all their stores as gun free zones.  Company HQ told her no.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 14, 2022, 10:28:36 PM
No. Several years ago Shannon Watts from Everytown for gun control tried to pressure them to post all their stores as gun free zones.  Company HQ told her no.

OK. I remember now. Thanks.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: K Frame on October 15, 2022, 08:38:09 AM
No. Several years ago Shannon Watts from Everytown for gun control tried to pressure them to post all their stores as gun free zones.  Company HQ told her no.

Yep, IIRC, she got on her twitter feed and started crowing about how Kroger was prohibiting open carry in their stores.

Kroger's statement was a LOT different...

"Kroger is respectfully asking that customers no longer openly carry firearms into our stores, other than authorized law enforcement officers"

Apparently anyone who dared point that out on her twitter feed at the time was summarily booted.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Unisaw on October 15, 2022, 05:16:04 PM
As far as I can tell Kroger's only firearms policy is asking customers not to open carry.

Don’t bother looking for a shooting magazine at Kroger.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Tuco on October 15, 2022, 05:42:32 PM
Don’t bother looking for a shooting magazine at Kroger.
I think you mean "clip".
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Ron on October 15, 2022, 05:58:35 PM
Marianos in Chicagoland is owned by Kroger. They are slightly nicer than Jewel which is owned by Albertsons.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: K Frame on October 15, 2022, 07:06:44 PM
Don’t bother looking for a shooting magazine at Kroger.

I can't remember when I looked for a shooting magazine anywhere.

Decades, likely.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: T.O.M. on October 15, 2022, 08:54:29 PM
Here in Central Ohio, the choice is Kroger, Giant Eagle, or a local independent place if you are really lucky.  Kroger isn't bad.  They push their own brands, which are hit and miss.  They are a union shop, which matters to some people.  Decent selection of most things, prices are okay.  Around me, they seem to be suffering from supply issues, but those tend to be short term problems.  I've always found the deli , bakery, and butcher staff to be helpful and mostly friendly if you are friendly, too.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: JN01 on October 15, 2022, 09:03:33 PM
Don’t bother looking for a shooting magazine at Kroger.

My local (E. Tenn) Kroger carries them.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: T.O.M. on October 15, 2022, 09:19:58 PM
My local (E. Tenn) Kroger carries them.

Mine carries a few.  Honestly, haven't paid attention much.  Haven't bought a gun magazine in 20+ years.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: JN01 on October 15, 2022, 09:44:20 PM
Mine carries a few.  Honestly, haven't paid attention much.  Haven't bought a gun magazine in 20+ years.

I haven't bought any in a long time either.  I will occasionally leaf through them if I have to wait for the pharmacy to fill a script.

Speaking of scripts, Kroger has a great prescription savings club, I think it is $39/year.  With it, drugs cost less than with my health insurance plan.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: 230RN on October 15, 2022, 09:46:53 PM
My Kroger/ King Soopers store has also been a little spotty on shelf stock, too, but not bad.  The only reason I shop there is that it's smack-dab on the way to my POB.

They had some trouble a while ago with theft of their electric handicapped carts and that was a royal pain in the butt, but they got that squared away.  I think they installed the same kind of parking-lot limiting system they have for the regular shopping carts to prevent swipage.

I knew a guy back in about 2000 CE who made substantial beer money by driving around and picking up stray shopping carts that people would use to just get their groceries home --a more or less justifiable reason for taking them and i guess it was just "understood" that was sorta OK.  I seem to remember he made $1.50 for every cart he rescued.  That business has been obsoleted by the parking lot limiters nowadays.

I've seen gun mags there, but I get The Rifleman for free and 2A current events on a daily basis off the net.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: JTHunter on October 15, 2022, 11:41:05 PM
AFAIK, the nearest Kroger is about 30 miles east of me and it is a relatively small store, just like the town where it is located.
In this area, the two main regional chains are Schnuck's and Dierberg's but we also have two discounters, German-owned Aldi and Kroger-owned Ruler.  However, thanks to inflation (and possibly gouging/collusion), NEITHER Ruler or Aldi's prices are very good any more.
  [barf]  :mad:
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Ben on October 16, 2022, 07:24:58 AM
I knew a guy back in about 2000 CE who made substantial beer money by driving around and picking up stray shopping carts that people would use to just get their groceries home --a more or less justifiable reason for taking them and i guess it was just "understood" that was sorta OK.  I seem to remember he made $1.50 for every cart he rescued.  That business has been obsoleted by the parking lot limiters nowadays.

I thought you lived in Colorado, not Canada.

https://youtu.be/-l0KNCzb88Q
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: RocketMan on October 16, 2022, 08:27:08 AM
I miss Freddies.  Being a PNW chain, they don't have them in NC, obviously.  Used to buy 50 round boxes of 30 carbine at the Cornelius, OR Fred Meyer for $12.  Thems was the good ole days of reasonably priced ammo.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: K Frame on October 16, 2022, 08:32:33 AM
I'm in DC Metro. Looks like the closest Krogers to me are in Richmond. Not going to Richmond to shop.

But, something I did NOT realize until just a few moments ago...

Harris Teeter groceries, which I have always liked, have been under the Kroger umbrella since 2014.

I literally had no clue. So, I guess I shopped at a Kroger a few weeks ago, then. It was just branded as a Harris Teeter.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: RocketMan on October 16, 2022, 08:40:25 AM
There is supposedly a Harris Teeter going to open here in Hickory fairly soon.  The boss and I plan to check them out.
Piggly Wiggly just took over the small, local Galaxy grocery chain.  There's one just a few miles away we need to check.  The Galaxy store used to be kind of run down.  I'm wondering if the Piggly Wiggly folks spiffed the place up at all.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: MillCreek on October 16, 2022, 09:58:40 AM
I miss Freddies.  Being a PNW chain, they don't have them in NC, obviously.  Used to buy 50 round boxes of 30 carbine at the Cornelius, OR Fred Meyer for $12.  Thems was the good ole days of reasonably priced ammo.

As far as I know, Fred Meyer no longer sells any firearms or ammunition; at least I don't see it anymore at the stores in this area.  I bought a Ruger LCR a few years back at an excellent sale from the Fred Meyer in Monroe, WA.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: MillCreek on October 17, 2022, 03:13:03 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/17/business/kroger-albertsons-merger-groceries/index.html

I see the argument about how a merger will produce efficiencies of scale and cost savings will result in lower prices to consumers. The same argument is made when health systems merge, and it almost always results in higher prices to the patients due to decreased competition; so color me skeptical that a grocery merger will result in lower prices.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Boomhauer on October 17, 2022, 03:23:14 PM
There is supposedly a Harris Teeter going to open here in Hickory fairly soon.  The boss and I plan to check them out.
Piggly Wiggly just took over the small, local Galaxy grocery chain.  There's one just a few miles away we need to check.  The Galaxy store used to be kind of run down.  I'm wondering if the Piggly Wiggly folks spiffed the place up at all.

Harris Teeter is a fancyish grocery store. The one here has a live band. No, don’t ask me why a grocery store has a live band. I’m not the sophisticated shopper they apparently want.

Lowes Foods is also a very good grocery store also not cheap but good meats, deli, and premade.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: RocketMan on October 17, 2022, 04:18:08 PM
Lowes Foods is also a very good grocery store also not cheap but good meats, deli, and premade.

The Lowes around here have a great beer section.  You can even sit at a small bar and enjoy draft beer or wine by the glass.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: MillCreek on October 17, 2022, 04:31:57 PM
The Lowes around here have a great beer section.  You can even sit at a small bar and enjoy draft beer or wine by the glass.

I have often said that if Target put in a bar, they would clean up.  I know I would be happier to accompany the wife there if I could sit and have a good beer while she shops.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Northwoods on October 17, 2022, 04:41:31 PM
I have often said that if Target put in a bar, they would clean up.  I know I would be happier to accompany the wife there if I could sit and have a good beer while she shops.

Had malls done this 15 years ago they might still be a viable business model.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: charby on October 17, 2022, 09:20:25 PM
Had malls done this 15 years ago they might still be a viable business model.

Almost every midwest mall had at least one bar and grill in them during the heyday of malls. Didn't save them, the mostly vacant mall where I live has a popular sports bar in it.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: K Frame on October 18, 2022, 07:32:28 AM
Almost every midwest mall had at least one bar and grill in them during the heyday of malls. Didn't save them, the mostly vacant mall where I live has a popular sports bar in it.

Bingo.

When I moved to DC metro in 1990 there were a couple of really happening malls -- Fair Oaks, Tysons Corners, Springfield, and Potomac Mills -- within easy driving distance of where we lived in DC and later in Virginia.

Of those, Springfield mall is gone, remodeled/replaced by a town center concept. The others are in varying stages of relevance.

I can't remember when I last set foot in a mall; it's been maybe 5 or so years and for dinner with friends, not shopping.

But, even back then, casual dining restaurants with bars were very much a part of all of those malls. I think Tysons even has a brew pub in the mall, now.

I will admit, I still get nostalgic when I think of malls in the 1980s.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: Northwoods on October 18, 2022, 09:59:24 AM
As a kid in the 80’s going into a mall usually meant school clothes shopping with my mom and sister.  I’d get a headache within 20’ of walking inside.
Title: Re: Kroger to Buy Albertsons
Post by: K Frame on October 18, 2022, 11:29:43 AM
Yeah, there was definitely that. But, also, my Mom was doing the antique show circuit, and in those days that meant a lot of setting up in the concourses of the various malls and sitting there for hours hoping someone would buy the stuff so you didn't have to load it back in the car.

Fortunately, by the time the Reagan '80s were in full swing I was driving and I was able to visit the malls on my own terms, often with my friends, to hit the movies and the video arcades. That's also around the time that I started building my tool collection, and that meant Sears Craftsman. I spent a TON of time cruising the tool aisles in a bunch of Sears stores in Central Pennsylvania. I still miss the smells -- that rich oily smell from the coatings on the tools, that sharp, tangy smell from the plastic used on the screwdriver handles -- and the sound of sockets and wrenches clanking together... all of that's gone now, and I get really nostalgic when I think about those days.