Post by: Frank Castle on November 18, 2007, 05:11:15 PM
http://www.vajoe.com/candidate_calculator.html
Post by: jefnvk on November 18, 2007, 07:02:36 PM
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Post by: CAnnoneer on November 18, 2007, 11:01:04 PM
Post by: LAK on November 18, 2007, 11:09:31 PM
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Post by: Werewolf on November 19, 2007, 04:17:46 AM
Post by: HankB on November 19, 2007, 04:19:06 AM
The worst-ranking Republican was Ron Paul at 53.62% . . .
Twenty points down I see the highest ranking democrat was Biden (!) at 33.33% . . . Kucinich came in dead last at 10.14% . . . I've heard both speak, and wonder how either managed to score so high.
Post by: GigaBuist on November 19, 2007, 06:15:59 AM
What's more telling is this:
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Bottom of the Barrel
New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) - 25.68%
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) - 25.68%
New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) - 25.68%
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) - 25.68%
Post by: Nitrogen on November 19, 2007, 06:44:56 AM
I hated this quiz because the one that matched me the most was Joe Biden, who i'd never vote for, even if he was the last candidate on earth.
I just have to grit my teeth and bear the fact that if I vote for a democrat, I am voting for a gun banner, and if I vote for a republican, I vote for someone that doesn't believe in science, or other rights that need to be addressed. I lose either way.
Out of the candidates that have a chance, I'd probably vote Mike Huckabee or Dennis Kucinich. I really don't like ANY of the top tier candidates from either party.
Obama was 39.58%, but he's an empty suit.
Edwards was 35.42%. I like the guy personally, but I don't think he's presidential matarial. If I'm going to vote for a lefty, I want a real lefty like kucinich, not a Johnny-Edwards-come-lately.
Rudy and Richardson were both 33.33%. I like Richardson's forigen policy experience. I'd rather have him as a secretary of state, though.
Post by: Firethorn on November 19, 2007, 09:14:49 AM
86.27% for Fred Thompson setting priorities.
It'd probably change some if it had some questions on the drug war or the capability for more 'nuanced' answers.
Post by: SomeKid on November 19, 2007, 11:30:29 AM
85.19% match
Your Other Top Matches
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee (R) - 79.63%
Colorado Representative Tom Tancredo (R) - 79.63%
Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson (R) - 76.85%
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 19, 2007, 11:31:17 AM
Brad
Post by: yesitsloaded on November 19, 2007, 11:34:51 AM
Post by: The Swamp Fox on November 19, 2007, 04:13:04 PM
Post by: Regolith on November 19, 2007, 09:50:23 PM
75% Ron Paul.
I kinda figured Paul would be at the top. A little surprised.
The only thing I know about Tancredo is his name. Anyone know what his politics are?
Post by: HankB on November 20, 2007, 03:31:41 AM
. . . The only thing I know about Tancredo is his name. Anyone know what his politics are?
Tancredo's #1 issue has been dealing with illegal immigration.
Post by: Werewolf on November 20, 2007, 05:13:48 AM
80% Tancredo
75% Ron Paul.
I kinda figured Paul would be at the top. A little surprised.
The only thing I know about Tancredo is his name. Anyone know what his politics are?
Obviously pretty close to the same as yours...
75% Ron Paul.
I kinda figured Paul would be at the top. A little surprised.
The only thing I know about Tancredo is his name. Anyone know what his politics are?
Post by: Euclidean on November 20, 2007, 07:45:48 PM
79.51% match
Your Other Top Matches
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee (R) - 77.05%
Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson (R) - 72.95%
Colorado Representative Tom Tancredo (R) - 72.13%
Kind of surprised that Huckabee matched up so close to me according to that thing. I'm not surprised that Thompson and Tancredo were close seconds.
Post by: Werewolf on November 21, 2007, 06:45:15 AM
I'd guess that's probably because of Paul's stand on national defense and open borders.
My sense is most here are small L libertarians vs Paul who really is a true believer and is a capital L Libertarian.
Post by: GigaBuist on November 21, 2007, 10:18:11 AM
Lots here coming up with Tancredo instead of Paul and surprised by it.
I'd guess that's probably because of Paul's stand on national defense and open borders.
My sense is most here are small L libertarians vs Paul who really is a true believer and is a capital L Libertarian.
I'd guess that's probably because of Paul's stand on national defense and open borders.
My sense is most here are small L libertarians vs Paul who really is a true believer and is a capital L Libertarian.
Uhm, open borders? This is from Ron Paul's website:
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* Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
* Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
* No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
* No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
* End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
* Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.
* Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
* No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
* No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
* End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
* Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.
If that's an 'open borders' plan what the hell does a closed borders plan look like?
Post by: Werewolf on November 21, 2007, 12:04:13 PM
Quote from: Gigabuist
If that's an 'open borders' plan what the hell does a closed borders plan look like?
I stand corrected. Wasn't the 1st time I was wrong and probably won't be the last...So Ron isn't a true Libertarian then? Can't be with that stand on the border.
Post by: GigaBuist on November 21, 2007, 05:56:41 PM
So Ron isn't a true Libertarian then? Can't be with that stand on the border.
His stance on abortion (he's against it) doesn't mesh with the Libertarian party either.
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 22, 2007, 02:39:41 AM
*Or at least he's more libertarian on those two issues.
Post by: mtnbkr on November 22, 2007, 02:45:32 AM
Your Other Top Matches
Texas Representative Ron Paul (R) - 77.69%
Colorado Representative Tom Tancredo (R) - 75.38%
Kansas Senator Sam Brownback (R) - 66.15%
Middle of the Pack
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee (R) - 65.38%
Arizona Senator John McCain (R) - 63.08%
California Representative Duncan Hunter (R) - 60.00%
Businessman John Cox (R) - 56.92%
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (R) - 50.77%
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson (D) - 38.46%
Delaware Senator Joseph Biden (D) - 36.15%
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) - 36.15%
Illinois Senator Barack Obama (D) - 33.08%
Former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel (D) - 30.77%
Bottom of the Barrel
New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) - 29.23%
Connecticut Senator Christopher Dodd (D) - 28.46%
Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich (D) - 24.62%
Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards (D) - 23.85%
Post by: nico on November 27, 2007, 07:47:09 PM
86.96% match
Your Other Top Matches
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee (R) - 78.26%
Texas Representative Ron Paul (R) - 78.26%
Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson (R) - 78.26%
Middle of the Pack
Businessman John Cox (R) - 73.91%
California Representative Duncan Hunter (R) - 73.91%
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (R) - 69.57%
Kansas Senator Sam Brownback (R) - 65.22%
Arizona Senator John McCain (R) - 60.87%
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) - 43.48%
Former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel (D) - 39.13%
Delaware Senator Joseph Biden (D) - 30.43%
Illinois Senator Barack Obama (D) - 30.43%
Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich (D) - 26.09%
Bottom of the Barrel
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson (D) - 26.09%
Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards (D) - 21.74%
New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) - 17.39%
Connecticut Senator Christopher Dodd (D) - 17.39%
It's too bad none of my top 4 have a chance of winning in the primaries. I'd probably be willing to vote for them.
Post by: K Frame on November 27, 2007, 08:26:59 PM
Why do you hate Ron Paul and America so much, Nico?
Post by: K Frame on November 27, 2007, 08:32:02 PM
I guess I am becoming more liberal as I get older...
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 27, 2007, 11:33:53 PM
Post by: Firethorn on November 28, 2007, 07:09:03 AM
Hillary Clinton 172.97%?
I guess I am becoming more liberal as I get older...
I guess I am becoming more liberal as I get older...
Nah, sounds like a buffer overflow error - it went so negative the computer's reporting a positive number.
Post by: joffe on November 28, 2007, 07:11:40 AM
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Texas Representative Ron Paul (R)
96.67% match
96.67% match
I don't think I actually agree with him that much. May be because I selected so many 'unsures' because the issues were multi-faceted.
Brownback came in distant second with 66.6% which has to be some sort of sign.
I think he dropped out anyways, didn't he?
Post by: nico on November 28, 2007, 11:58:15 AM
I don't think I actually agree with him that much. May be because I selected so many 'unsures' because the issues were multi-faceted.
That's how I felt too. The questions were too broad and phrased things in a way that gave them a political spin.
like "abortion rights." I don't think abortion should be outlawed, but I don't agree with either of their descriptions either:
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Yes: Support Abortion Rights
In 1973, the Supreme Court ruled in Roe vs. Wade that the Constitution protects a woman's decision whether to terminate her pregnancy.
You support the Supreme Court's ruling or similar interpretations concerning a woman's right to choose an abortion.
No: Against Abortion Rights
An unborn fetus is a human being. Therefore, some argue that on legal grounds terminating a pregnancy is illegal, just as murder is illegal. Others argue on religious or ethical grounds that because an unborn fetus is a human being, it is immoral to destroy it.
You support this or similar arguments.
In 1973, the Supreme Court ruled in Roe vs. Wade that the Constitution protects a woman's decision whether to terminate her pregnancy.
You support the Supreme Court's ruling or similar interpretations concerning a woman's right to choose an abortion.
No: Against Abortion Rights
An unborn fetus is a human being. Therefore, some argue that on legal grounds terminating a pregnancy is illegal, just as murder is illegal. Others argue on religious or ethical grounds that because an unborn fetus is a human being, it is immoral to destroy it.
You support this or similar arguments.
The same is true for most of the questions.
Post by: seeker_two on November 29, 2007, 06:10:47 AM
85.37% match
Your Other Top Matches
Colorado Representative Tom Tancredo (R) - 82.93%
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (R) - 73.17%
Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson (R) - 70.73%
How the heck did I get Romney ahead of Thompson?....
Post by: roo_ster on November 29, 2007, 11:17:49 AM
I am not surprised that Tancedo & Hunter were my top two.
I suspect Romney scores so high because it takes his current positions at face value.
There is no way I would prefer Huck over Thompson in the voting booth.
I feel dirty for having an 18% overlap with Hillary.
One thing of note: There is much more variability (50% vs 16%) in the Republican candidates than the Democrat candidates. The "Big Tent" is to be found in the Republican party, nowadays. They have everything from a cross-dressing pro-torture, pro-war gun-grabber to a Baptist preacher to an almost Libertarian. It seems lockstep ideology is found on the Left, these days.
Colorado Representative Tom Tancredo (R) - 92.21% match
California Representative Duncan Hunter (R) - 84.42%
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney (R) - 76.62%
Kansas Senator Sam Brownback (R) - 71.43%
Businessman John Cox (R) - 71.43%
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee (R) - 71.43%
Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson (R) - 68.83%
Texas Representative Ron Paul (R) - 64.94%
Arizona Senator John McCain (R) - 63.64%
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) - 42.86%
New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson (D) - 26.62%
Former Alaska Senator Mike Gravel (D) - 25.97%
Delaware Senator Joseph Biden (D) - 23.38%
New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) - 18.18%
Illinois Senator Barack Obama (D) - 18.18%
Connecticut Senator Christopher Dodd (D) - 12.99%
Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards (D) - 12.99%
Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich (D) - 10.39%
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on November 29, 2007, 02:12:25 PM
Post by: Scott on December 01, 2007, 08:43:00 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 02, 2007, 02:59:48 AM
It seems lockstep ideology is found on the Left, these days.
You mean I'll have to switch parties?
Post by: Tuco on December 04, 2007, 05:14:53 AM
It seems lockstep ideology is found on the Left, these days.
You mean I'll have to switch parties?
I seem to recall a quote....Something like...
"There's not a dime's worth of difference between the democrat and republican parties"
Was that George Wallace or Waylon Jennings?
btw, Paul, 75% or so....
Post by: stevelyn on December 04, 2007, 01:49:40 PM
Ron Paul. Hard to say whether that is 100%; I have not heard him say or read anything stated or written by him that I disagree with so far.
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I can't say I've ever heard or read anything Ron Paul has said that I disagree with either.
My match was Ron Paul @ 83.33%.
Other top matches:
Mike Gravel 75.00% (Who BTW I'm ashamed he ever called himself Alaskan.)
John Cox 70.83%
Fred Thompson 70.83%
The rest of the mooks in the running started with McStain @ 62.50% and went down hill from there. Hitlery was dead last.
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 04, 2007, 03:06:40 PM
Top match:
Fred Thompson 86.96%
Other top matches:
Ron Paul 83.70%
Tom Tancredo 80.43%
Sam Brownback 73.91%
Bottom of the barrel:
Hillary Clinton 21.74%
Chris Dodd 20.65%
John Edwards 13.04%
Dennis Kucinich 10.87%
"Bottom of the barrel" is right! Although I'm surprised that the match for Kucinich is in double digits. Broken clocks . . . twice a day . . . etc.