Church shooting near Dallas

[RoadKingLarry]

This is probably not going to be popular, but at this stage I'm leaning toward this being a robbery that would likely not have resulted in shooting had the security team not reacted to it.  The bad guy didn't seem like he wanted to shoot until people started drawing down on him and from what has been released the bad guy was upset he had received food from the church but not the money he had requested.  I don't think this was a case of a mass shooting being prevented, but more likely an armed robbery going bad and two good guys dying because of it.

That said, even though it sucks that good guys died when it might have been prevented by rolling over, I think it was the right thing to do to respond with deadly force.  They did the best they could with the information and training they had.

Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't.
How do you determine the intent of an armed assailant threatening innocent people?

[cordex]

Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't.
How do you determine the intent of an armed assailant threatening innocent people?

Agreed.

[French G.]

Even if it was a robbery gone bad it kinda slows down the next guy who thinks he ought to shoot up a texas church. Both in giving him pause and making it way more likely there will be even more guns in any given church.

[HeroHog]

https://babylonbee.com/news/media-disappointed-to-learn-armed-citizen-stopped-mass-shooting

SNOPES says: Mostly True

[Hawkmoon]

SNOPES says: Mostly True

What was the question?

[HeroHog]

What was the question?

https://babylonbee.com/news/media-disappointed-to-learn-armed-citizen-stopped-mass-shooting

[Angel Eyes]

https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-headline-trump-voter-shoots-mentally-ill-man-in-church

[MechAg94]

https://nj1015.com/nj-gave-texas-church-gunman-plea-deal-that-wiped-out-gun-felony/
NJ gave Texas church gunman plea deal that wiped out gun felony

Read More: NJ gave Texas church gunman plea deal that wiped out gun felony | https://nj1015.com/nj-gave-texas-church-gunman-plea-deal-that-wiped-out-gun-felony/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

This article might deserve its own thread.  The article highlights a New Jersey case where the murderer was arrested for possession of an illegal weapon.  However, it isn't just New Jersey.  The article points out he has a history of serious crimes that were plead down in a couple of different states including Texas.  That is the part I was thinking might start a whole new discussion.  I think that sort of thing happens all the time all over the country.  

I know a guy who works at a county jail who is in a position to review criminal histories of inmates.  He said people would be up in arms if they knew the real data on what the prosecutors and courts have been up to.  Few criminals are getting the book thrown at them as long as they are willing to agree to a plea deal and give the prosecutor a win.