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Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« on: January 16, 2012, 11:56:41 AM »
Finally!!  Someone in the media has discovered exactly what Ron Paul is all about.  Charles Krauthammer has a column today, January 16th.  It's nice to see the intellectual elite in the media, at least one anyway, has finally stumbled onto the reality of Ron Paul.  

Me, just an unwashed hillbilly with a public school edumacation from W. Michigan has been saying the following for months if not years. Ron Paul is not a candidate, he is the voice of a movement that represents a very large segment of Americans who understand what we are as a nation and what we have to get back to in order to survive as a nation.  The Tea Party would not exist if not for Mr. Paul being a voice crying out in the wilderness all these years.

He is not perfect, nor are all of his ideas able to be implemented in some ways, but he is close in many ways.  But he gets it and he speaks it.  It's about time the smart people are starting to get it.
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 12:09:16 PM »
I've been thinking more like an OT prophet damning the people into slavery for their deeds  =|
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 12:45:44 PM »
He's the guy in the crowd shouting "The Empire has no clothes."
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 01:34:30 PM »
He's the guy in the crowd shouting "The Empire has no clothes."

or money to spend.
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 05:59:24 PM »
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He's the guy in the crowd shouting "The Empire has no clothes."
or money to spend.

How can you have any money to spend if you have no pockets?
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 07:51:05 PM »
Finally!!  Someone in the media has discovered exactly what Ron Paul is all about.  Charles Krauthammer has a column today, January 16th.  

This one?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ron-pauls-achievement/2012/01/12/gIQABS7duP_story.html
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2012, 08:04:26 PM »
Krauthammer makes some very good points. After four more years of Obama, a Rand Paul presidential run in 2016 could be a runaway winner. If Romney or another "moderate" wins in 2012, we'll have a moderate or very left leaning dem in 2016.
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2012, 08:56:50 PM »
Krauthammer has eaten a serving of crow since New Hampshire.  Paul went from "fringe kook" to leader of a movement in what?  2 weeks!  Those not of elitist persuasions have known for some time Paul is the front man for a movement, a movement much deeper than just one man.

I cite the following as evidence of a movement.  While Nikki Haley is endorsing Mitt Romney (yawn!) in SC, Ron Paul has picked up the endorsements of a number of high level bureaucrats in the state.  Then low state senator Tom Davis, a major legislative force, endorsed Paul.  And now to break tomorrow three upstate senators will announce their endorsement of Paul.  Remember, the upstate of SC figures large in the TEA movement. 

http://www.fitsnews.com/2012/01/16/three-upstate-sc-senators-to-endorse-ron-paul/

Is Paul on a roll?  Nope, but the movement he fronts is moving along nicely.
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2012, 09:21:31 PM »
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After four more years of Obama, a Rand Paul presidential run in 2016 could be a runaway winner.

Two issues with that> 1- four more years of Obama  and 2- Rand doesn't have the Ron's back bone

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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2012, 09:29:11 PM »
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and 2- Rand doesn't have the Ron's back bone
No, but Rand is a whole lot smoother and media savy than Ron.  Evidence?  Paul is in the middle of a boomlet here in SC.  We've got talking heads actually discussing points of libertarian ideology.  The operative term is talking heads because you don't see Ron in the media.  Bad, bad media strategy to let a hostile media represent your positions.
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2012, 09:49:19 PM »
Krauthammer makes some very good points. After four more years of Obama, a Rand Paul presidential run in 2016 could be a runaway winner. If Romney or another "moderate" wins in 2012, we'll have a moderate or very left leaning dem in 2016.

If we have four years of Obama, we're more likely to see The Army of the West (Allen West, that is) battling Pablo Escobar Jr and The Not So New Black Panthers in the streets of Anywhere USA.
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2012, 10:00:09 PM »
I'm still trying to wrap my head around four more years of Obama being worse than eight years of Mitt Romney. Because your choices are:

1) Four more years of Obama
2) Eight years of Mitt Romney
3) Four years of Mitt Romney and four to eight years of a yet to be identified progressive. So potentially twelve years of crap instead of four with Obama.
4) Four more years of Obama, and then four to eight years oft the yet to be identified progressive if the country is really stupid.
5) Four more years of Obama, then the country finally draws the line and votes in a Rand Paul or equivalent.
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2012, 11:56:18 PM »
Charles Krauthammer and his pals are not even close to comprehending what Ron Paul is and why people support him.
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2012, 12:18:56 AM »
I thought his first name was Ron, not Jeremiah.

You mean like *the* Jeremiah.
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2012, 10:24:55 AM »
I'm still trying to wrap my head around four more years of Obama being worse than eight years of Mitt Romney. Because your choices are:

1) Four more years of Obama
2) Eight years of Mitt Romney
3) Four years of Mitt Romney and four to eight years of a yet to be identified progressive. So potentially twelve years of crap instead of four with Obama.
4) Four more years of Obama, and then four to eight years oft the yet to be identified progressive if the country is really stupid.
5) Four more years of Obama, then the country finally draws the line and votes in a Rand Paul or equivalent.

This presupposes political business as usual.  Forgive me if I find that incredibly implausible.  A second Obama term will play out a scenario no living American has seen.  
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Re: Re: Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2012, 10:25:20 AM »
You mean like *the* Jeremiah.

Jeremiah as in Jeremiad, forth-telling, and such.  Won't be long before Ron's God ges to smiting us for our wicked ways.

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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2012, 12:52:57 PM »
This presupposes political business as usual.  Forgive me if I find that incredibly implausible.  A second Obama term will play out a scenario no living American has seen.  

What specific things will happen?

Gun bans? Economic collapse? Riots in the streets? A rise in the crime rate?

Be specific, please.
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Re: Re: Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2012, 04:35:58 PM »
Jeremiah as in Jeremiad, forth-telling, and such.  Won't be long before Ron's God ges to smiting us for our wicked ways.

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Jeremiah, as in Jeremiah the son of Hilkiah of the priests in Anathoth, the guy with the unenviable task of telling the last generation in the kingdom of Judah before they all get hauled off into exile (if they're lucky) that their time was up.    Pretty grim reading, by and large.
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Re: Re: Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2012, 06:58:14 PM »
Jeremiah, as in Jeremiah the son of Hilkiah of the priests in Anathoth, the guy with the unenviable task of telling the last generation in the kingdom of Judah before they all get hauled off into exile (if they're lucky) that their time was up.    Pretty grim reading, by and large.


Pretty much like Ron Paul  =(

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Re: Re: Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2012, 09:31:20 PM »
Jeremiah, as in Jeremiah the son of Hilkiah of the priests in Anathoth, the guy with the unenviable task of telling the last generation in the kingdom of Judah before they all get hauled off into exile (if they're lucky) that their time was up.    Pretty grim reading, by and large.

So, you've heard of him?   ;)
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Re: Ron Paul VS lack of understanding
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2012, 01:03:12 PM »
What specific things will happen?

Gun bans? Economic collapse? Riots in the streets? A rise in the crime rate?

Be specific, please.

Keep going.  Nothing you haven't seen before in proto-fascist states.
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