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Re: Pelosi Minority Leader Again
« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2016, 11:40:42 AM »
To me those maps do represent something - identity politics. Slice & dice the electorate into interest groups , promise something to enough groups to get 51%,  and then make the other 49% bend over and take it.

No thank you
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Re: Pelosi Minority Leader Again
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2016, 11:48:57 AM »
To me those maps do represent something - identity politics. Slice & dice the electorate into interest groups , promise something to enough groups to get 51%,  and then make the other 49% bend over and take it.

No thank you

That would be great. However, as I've warned for YEARS that this was the inevitable outcome of Democrat identity group politics.

One side in a battle (political or otherwise) cannot willfully disarm without disastrous consequences. The larger "identities" in the U.S. are waking up to that.

I really wish we could have a polity where identity politics was shunned. We've not had that in my lifetime.
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Re: Pelosi Minority Leader Again
« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2016, 12:20:39 PM »
To me those maps do represent something - identity politics. Slice & dice the electorate into interest groups , promise something to enough groups to get 51%,  and then make the other 49% bend over and take it.

No thank you

You may not believe in identity politics, but identity politics believes in you.

Plus, what mak wrote.

You want to go back to a political culture less beholden to identity politics?  Go back to the pre-1965 American population.  Or the pre-1900, more like, and repeal the 19th Amendment.  That oughta get you close.
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Re: Pelosi Minority Leader Again
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2016, 12:32:44 PM »
To me those maps do represent something - identity politics. Slice & dice the electorate into interest groups , promise something to enough groups to get 51%,  and then make the other 49% bend over and take it.

No thank you


I disdain identity politics myself, but it is possible to examine how different "identities" vote, without playing that game oneself.

And for what it's worth, the red v blue county maps aren't identity-related, unless we're counting political parties as an identity. They just show how isolated the support is for the Democratic Party, despite their propaganda organs reaching all over the country.
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Re: Pelosi Minority Leader Again
« Reply #54 on: December 08, 2016, 03:18:09 PM »
Since there seems to be some consensus about there being such a signficant urban vs rural divide* I decided to look into how that split actually works out. I was surprised at how much of the population lives in urban areas - 70% (or more depending on definition) and growing.

The country is undeniably urban, and the urban majority is counted by population, not by the amount of urban areas. But with such a wide spectrum making up the definition of the word "urban," maybe it makes more sense to think of the U.S. as majority non-rural

*Please don't go on another derail about killin off all them evil city folk, that was kind of disturbing.
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Re: Pelosi Minority Leader Again
« Reply #55 on: December 08, 2016, 06:05:53 PM »
I was surprised at how much of the population lives in urban areas - 70% (or more depending on definition) and growing.


"Depending on definition" indeed. The census loves to assign people to "metropolitan statistical areas." According to that classification, since I live within a metropolitan statistical area, I am probably classified as "urban." But ... I don't live in a city. Where I live today is borderline between suburban and rural. When I was a kid, it was definitely rural -- we evicted the cows from one of my grandfather's pastures when my parents built the house in 1950.
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Re: Pelosi Minority Leader Again
« Reply #56 on: December 08, 2016, 06:13:45 PM »
"Depending on definition" indeed. The census loves to assign people to "metropolitan statistical areas." According to that classification, since I live within a metropolitan statistical area, I am probably classified as "urban." But ... I don't live in a city. Where I live today is borderline between suburban and rural. When I was a kid, it was definitely rural -- we evicted the cows from one of my grandfather's pastures when my parents built the house in 1950.

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Re: Pelosi Minority Leader Again
« Reply #57 on: December 08, 2016, 06:22:32 PM »
Where I live today is borderline between suburban and rural.

Can you shoot some targets in your backyard? Probably not the official measure but it's my requirement for being considered 'rural'. [ar15]
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Re: Pelosi Minority Leader Again
« Reply #58 on: December 08, 2016, 06:58:45 PM »
There should be three categories for sure, urban, suburban and rural.

The suburbs are where all the confused moderates and independents live  :P
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Re: Pelosi Minority Leader Again
« Reply #59 on: December 08, 2016, 07:02:45 PM »
Can you shoot some targets in your backyard? Probably not the official measure but it's my requirement for being considered 'rural'. [ar15]

My criteria adds "Can you raise pigs in you backyard?".
Both in the affirmative would be a requirement for me.
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Re: Pelosi Minority Leader Again
« Reply #60 on: December 08, 2016, 07:06:49 PM »
I live in the suburbs of Hume. Ha Ha Ha Ha
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Re: Pelosi Minority Leader Again
« Reply #61 on: December 08, 2016, 07:34:17 PM »
My criteria adds "Can you raise pigs in you backyard?".


Everyone here knows the only reason that's your criteria is for getting rid of the bodies. :P  =D
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Re: Pelosi Minority Leader Again
« Reply #62 on: December 08, 2016, 08:34:18 PM »
Everyone here knows the only reason that's your criteria is for getting rid of the bodies. :P  =D

The bacon is just a fringe benefit =D
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