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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2017, 01:44:40 PM »
From the few times I'd actually watched him, he was constantly staking out a "middle ground" on guns and 2A issues. Pro ownership of whatever constituted "regular guns" in his mind, pro carry, but constantly harping on guns that were "too dangerous" or "too extreme" and thought there should be a rigorous application process, should people even be allowed to own them at all. Seemingly completely ignorant of the NFA which pretty much is just that.

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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2017, 02:03:52 PM »
He was just enough of a "conservative" to cause almost as much damage to the causes as he helped, especially when it comes to gun "rights."

I had stopped paying attention to him several years ago.
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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2017, 02:51:30 PM »
I saw somewhere this morning that he got a 25 million dollar going away present.  The Left will crow about getting his scalp because that's what they do.  It doesn't matter that he wasn't a conservative, they will paint him as one and how they brought his evil heiney down.
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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2017, 03:04:08 PM »
I saw somewhere this morning that he got a 25 million dollar going away present.  The Left will crow about getting his scalp because that's what they do.  It doesn't matter that he wasn't a conservative, they will paint him as one and how they brought his evil heiney down.

How did him sexually harassing women turn into the left getting his scalp?  Guy sounds like a sleaze.

Unless that's ok now?

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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2017, 03:56:07 PM »
My dad always liked him and watched him every night.  I thought he was mostly a blow hard.
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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2017, 04:05:29 PM »
How did him sexually harassing women turn into the left getting his scalp?  Guy sounds like a sleaze.

Unless that's ok now?

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That makes sense to the Left, though. In their narrative, O'Reilly was a conservative stalwart; a leader in our war on women (though we're also somehow religious extremists waging war on sex - I'm not sure how that works). To them, O'Reilly's only doing what conservatives do.
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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2017, 05:21:53 PM »
How did him sexually harassing women turn into the left getting his scalp?  Guy sounds like a sleaze.

Unless that's ok now?

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So,  I guess you actually believe he really did sexually harass women? ;/
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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2017, 05:25:00 PM »
So,  I guess you actually believe he really did sexually harass women? ;/

In this day and age it doesn't take much more than looking at a woman for more 6 seconds without blinking for some of them to claim you were harassing them.  =|

It is one of those subjective things, what many would consider normal the outliers believe it is something else. :(


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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2017, 05:53:51 PM »
Don't even need to look their way. be involved in your own life & they claim to be harassed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-gE7PGJtRc

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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2017, 06:06:39 PM »
Don't even need to look their way. be involved in your own life & they claim to be harassed.

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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2017, 06:22:11 PM »
So,  I guess you actually believe he really did sexually harass women? ;/

You have proof he didn't?  You don't settle multiple claims if you're innocent.

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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2017, 06:23:50 PM »
You have proof he didn't?  You don't settle multiple million dollar plus claims if you're innocent.

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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2017, 06:47:31 PM »
FTFY


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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2017, 07:36:51 PM »
You have proof he didn't?  You don't settle multiple claims if you're innocent.

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Who wrote THAT law?

While I certainly understand that settling FIVE  sex harassment charges sure looks BAD, the fact is that the corporate lawyers (who defend the CORPORATE'S interest -- not the "defendant's") have long maintained the nasty habit of paying off ... "troublemakers" to make them "go away."  It has been viewed as an economy measure -- the fear of losing in court and having to pay off big $$$$$ and suffer the publicity that results ... or paying the complainant off with a few million and a nondisclosure agreement, thus limiting the public awareness of the problem.

From what I glean, people who gain power and sexually harass tend to keep doing it.  A habit they maintain so long as they can get away with it, until they are stopped .... like an "irresistable force" that finally discovers an "immoveable object."  From this logic it would appear, perhaps (and not unreasonably) that O'Reilly is guilty.  
Perhaps he is.
But, people who "pay off" troublemakers tend to create patterns as well.  As I said, lawyers pay them off even when the accused is innocent.  But this means, to the unethical "gold-digger" that all she need do if she wants a big settlement is to create a situation where, as they say, it's "he said versus she said,"  and if the pattern rings true, the lawyers will again settle.
To add to the matter, there's other motives as well.  With O'Reilly, his perceived rightwing bent as well as Fox News' could easily create a political motive -- someone who is a strong leftist out to "get" both O'Reilly and maybe Fox News as well.

Of course, it might also not be quit this simple.  Some COULD be phony charges and some COULD be legitimate charges where O'Reilly DID sexually harass a lady.   Or maybe he just looked at her too long without blinking.   I hear in someplace the cut off is 6 seconds......

I wasn't there.  I DON'T KNOW THE TRUTH.  AND NEITHER DO YOU.  AS the credit on the old "X Files" stated; "The truth is Out There."  Maybe, but it's not in either of ours' heads!  
Maybe it will come out someday, maybe not.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2017, 08:36:03 PM »
You're really stretching to make this a liberal plot. 

He's been fighting these allegations from coworkers since 2004.  His boss, who he supported until the guy was fired, was also accused by coworkers. 

Where there's smoke, there's fire.  But it's ok as long as it's a "conservative" pundit.  We only assume the worst when it's a libtard being accused, amirite? ;)

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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2017, 11:18:08 PM »
You're really stretching to make this a liberal plot.  

He's been fighting these allegations from coworkers since 2004.  His boss, who he supported until the guy was fired, was also accused by coworkers.  

Where there's smoke, there's fire.  But it's ok as long as it's a "conservative" pundit.  We only assume the worst when it's a libtard being accused, amirite? ;)

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I'm not saying O'Reilly didn't do anything.   I'm saying we don't  KNOW  he did.   Yeah,  the facts stink for him,  and a pattern of behaviour exists.   But as I said,  that pattern  cuts both ways.



Unless you're clairvoyant,  I guess......

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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2017, 08:39:01 AM »
I have not watched the great bloviator in years.  In fact, I don't recall having  tuned in Fox News in a long, long time.

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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2017, 08:55:25 AM »
In this day and age it doesn't take much more than looking at a woman for more 6 seconds without blinking for some of them to claim you were harassing them.  =|
And not looking at that same woman at all could be a micro/milli/mega aggression.

We really don't know what O'Reilly did or didn't do. Maybe they're unjust accusations, maybe he really IS a scumbag off camera.

In any case, his show was becoming . . . tiresome.
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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2017, 10:51:24 PM »
And not looking at that same woman at all could be a micro/milli/mega aggression.

We really don't know what O'Reilly did or didn't do. Maybe they're unjust accusations, maybe he really IS a scumbag off camera.

In any case, his show was becoming . . . tiresome.

I always thought he came off as something of a scumbag on camera, so I am inclined to believe there is something more to the accusations then him looking cross eyed at a couple pretty ladies. *shrug*
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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2017, 11:36:19 PM »
I always thought he came off as something of a scumbag on camera, so I am inclined to believe there is something more to the accusations then him looking cross eyed at a couple pretty ladies. *shrug*
People with an ego like he probably has, it is easy to believe.  Regardless, the powers at Fox are using it as an excuse to get rid of him.  I haven't watched Fox in years, but I have been meaning to watch Tucker Carlson.

I am curious if one of the other news networks would pick him up.  Give him an all male staff and try to steal ratings from Fox.  If it were just ratings, I think one of them would. 
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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2017, 08:17:41 PM »
People with an ego like he probably has, it is easy to believe.  Regardless, the powers at Fox are using it as an excuse to get rid of him.  I haven't watched Fox in years, but I have been meaning to watch Tucker Carlson.

I am curious if one of the other news networks would pick him up.  Give him an all male staff and try to steal ratings from Fox.  If it were just ratings, I think one of them would. 

oh, he will resurface with another TV show, I'm sure.
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The one thing I heard that he did that sounds totally believable, was to constantly refer to an attractive young African American gal as "hot chocolate"  ;/
Not really sexual harassment but just what a lot of older grumpy males say to waitresses , thinking they're being witty while everyone else is groaning and rolling their eyes .
Not enough to fire him but enough to yell at him.
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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2017, 02:48:22 AM »

The one thing I heard that he did that sounds totally believable, was to constantly refer to an attractive young African American gal as "hot chocolate"  ;/
Not really sexual harassment but just what a lot of older grumpy males say to waitresses , thinking they're being witty while everyone else is groaning and rolling their eyes .
Not enough to fire him but enough to yell at him.

I only get 4 channels at home, fox news is one so its kept there 90 % of the time-except for those unbearable old people commercials - I'm only over fifty - I'm not going to pick out my nursing home yet!

Just for the record, if that was said in a work place, it is 100% Sexual Harassment, as well as an EO violation, and enough to fire him.  Especially if said more than once.


I am in the camp that doesn't care he's gone.  He seemed like an ahole, was spectacularly wrong on some issues that rank high on my personal "give a damn" scale and had an arrogant, pretty much unwatchable, look how smart I am show.  With a lot of spin in it.

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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2017, 08:57:56 AM »
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The one thing I heard that he did that sounds totally believable, was to constantly refer to an attractive young African American gal as "hot chocolate"  ;/
Not really sexual harassment but just what a lot of older grumpy males say to waitresses , thinking they're being witty while everyone else is groaning and rolling their eyes .
Not enough to fire him but enough to yell at him.
Considering that Ray Nagin referred to NOLA as a "chocolate city," why wouldn't that be acceptable?  >:D
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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2017, 09:17:12 AM »
Considering that Ray Nagin referred to NOLA as a "chocolate city," why wouldn't that be acceptable?  >:D

You should strive to hold yourself to a higher standard than Ray Nagin in .... well everything.

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Re: So how much do we care that O'Reilly's gone?
« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2017, 01:18:56 PM »
You should strive to hold yourself to a higher standard than Ray Nagin in .... well everything.

easy enough
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I worked around a lot of attractive young ladies in Reno for awhile and never once thought of saying anything like the hot chocolate
thing ....

I've never fit into the corporate mold , i just don't care much what other people are saying - I hadn't realized that "hot chocolate" could be considered
harassment - I probably need diversity training
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