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RoadKingLarry

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Screw the troops. again and again.
« on: October 15, 2014, 04:44:11 AM »
So it now seems that not only did the sorry bastard at the political *expletive deleted*it hole that is the Pentagon lie about discovery of saddam's chemical weapons and deny proper medical treatment to soldiers exposed and wounded by them they even managed to let ISIS have a pile of them.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/15/us-troops-wounded-by-decades-old-chemical-weapons-during-iraq-war-report-claims/

I'm not sure if I can express the outrage I feel over this but IMO the subhuman, political hack bastards responsible need to be tried, condemned and executed.
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Re: Screw the troops. again and again.
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2014, 09:30:49 AM »
I remember seeing reports about old chemical weapons being found, but it was all on WND and such and never in major articles.  With the Bush Admin getting blasted over NOT finding chemical weapons, how or why was this not publicized all over?
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Re: Screw the troops. again and again.
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2014, 10:00:39 AM »
I remember seeing reports about old chemical weapons being found, but it was all on WND and such and never in major articles.  With the Bush Admin getting blasted over NOT finding chemical weapons, how or why was this not publicized all over?

That's what I was thinking...
I wonder if there were some really good military OPSEC reasons for not going public with the chemical weapon findings. I wouldn't doubt W would have allowed his name to get smeared in order to protect the operations- he's a bit different than the current President.
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Re: Screw the troops. again and again.
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2014, 10:31:53 AM »
Are these the chemical weapons that we sold to Saddam back when he was our friend  ???

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Re: Screw the troops. again and again.
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2014, 10:51:37 AM »
Are these the chemical weapons that we sold to Saddam back when he was our friend  ???

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We never sold chemical weapons to Iraq. No military hardware to speak of either, just a handful of helicopters that were supposed to be for civilian use. The Europeans and Russia were the ones who actually armed Sadam.

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Re: Screw the troops. again and again.
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2014, 10:55:24 AM »
Are these the chemical weapons that we sold to Saddam back when he was our friend  ???

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The photo shows a pile of wrecked chemical reactors, so it appears they were making their own.
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Re: Screw the troops. again and again.
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2014, 11:25:46 AM »
Unfotunately it looks like the SIPRI report is no longer available, but this link contains a summary. The whole claim that the U.S. armed Saddam's Iraq has always been false.

http://www.parapundit.com/archives/001853.html


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Re: Screw the troops. again and again.
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2014, 11:27:01 AM »
Unfotunately it looks like the SIPRI report is no longer available, but this link contains a summary. The whole claim that the U.S. armed Saddam's Iraq has always been false.

http://www.parapundit.com/archives/001853.html



Indeed. We armed Bin Laden, not Saddam.
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Re: Screw the troops. again and again.
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2014, 11:53:38 AM »
Indeed. We armed Bin Laden, not Saddam.

Nope not him either. He was not a part of the mujahideen groups that we armed during the soviet occupation of Afghanistan. He belonged to one of the groups supported by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia instead.

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Re: Screw the troops. again and again.
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2014, 12:09:47 PM »
Unfotunately it looks like the SIPRI report is no longer available, but this link contains a summary. The whole claim that the U.S. armed Saddam's Iraq has always been false.

http://www.parapundit.com/archives/001853.html


Even if we had, I wouldn't care.  Promoting a war between two countries that don't like us isn't what I would call bad policy.  I wonder how much Iran was supporting anti-Israeli militants when they were fighting Iraq?
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Re: Screw the troops. again and again.
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2014, 12:17:17 PM »
Nope not him either. He was not a part of the mujahideen groups that we armed during the soviet occupation of Afghanistan. He belonged to one of the groups supported by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia instead.

Meh. We gave it to one group of muj who shared it with him. If I gave the wife of a politician a giant check in the week before he votes on whether or not to award me a contract, do I get to deny wrongdoing because "I never gave him anything directly!"?

Even if we had, I wouldn't care.  Promoting a war between two countries that don't like us isn't what I would call bad policy.  I wonder how much Iran was supporting anti-Israeli militants when they were fighting Iraq?

It doesn't work out as well when you then invade one of those countries though.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2014, 12:35:11 PM »
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Re: Screw the troops. again and again.
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2014, 12:37:16 PM »
Meh. We gave it to one group of muj who shared it with him. If I gave the wife of a politician a giant check in the week before he votes on whether or not to award me a contract, do I get to deny wrongdoing because "I never gave him anything directly!"?

It doesn't work out as well when you then invade one of those countries though.

BZZZZZZZZTTTTT.  wrong again.   Bin Laden refused to accept any US aid or work with any groups that got US funding.  He self-funded with his family's fortune.  And his group was very much a "lone wolf" operation to the point the Mujahadeen hated him and his non-Afghan fighters.  



Meanwhile, the NYT, who was one of the shrillest voices in the "NO WMD'S FOUND" crowd, breaks the story about US troops harmed by Saddam chemical weapon stockpile?  Did they also print an apology?
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Re: Screw the troops. again and again.
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2014, 12:54:06 PM »
BZZZZZZZZTTTTT.  wrong again.   Bin Laden refused to accept any US aid or work with any groups that got US funding.  He self-funded with his family's fortune.  And his group was very much a "lone wolf" operation to the point the Mujahadeen hated him and his non-Afghan fighters.  



Meanwhile, the NYT, who was one of the shrillest voices in the "NO WMD'S FOUND" crowd, breaks the story about US troops harmed by Saddam chemical weapon stockpile?  Did they also print an apology?

It will come right after they return Walter Duranty's Pulitzer.
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