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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Balog on September 23, 2011, 12:50:38 AM
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Not decided myself, but Romney has always been unacceptable to me and Perry is getting there. The fact that the media is selling them so hard makes me want them even less. Time to look into Herman 999 Cain a bit more I think, I liked the cut of his jib.
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Honestly? I would love to see a Paul/Cain ticket for P/VP.
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Where's my "still hoping Gov. Palin gets in" option?
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Where's my "still hoping Gov. Palin gets in" option?
Govenor? She has been a non-gov longer than she was a govenor.
I like Ron Paul for his consistancy on the issues. I think he has his head screwed on right and will be less likely to bend to the whims of the GOP.
I like Cain for his business accumen, and he makes a decent talk show host. =D
Romney is right out. Perry is the current GOP flavor of the month.
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Govenor? She has been a non-gov longer than she was a govenor.
I like Ron Paul for his consistancy on the issues. I think he has his head screwed on right and will be less likely to bend to the whims of the GOP.
I like Cain for his business accumen, and he makes a decent talk show host. =D
Romney is right out. Perry is the current GOP flavor of the month.
;/ We refer to politicians with their title even after they are out of office. Representative, Senator, Governor, President...
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I.e. In many of the questions to Romney, he was addressed as "Gov. Romney".
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Perry is plummeting in my view - I figured he made a mistake when he signed a bill granting university tuition discounts to ILLEGAL ALIENS and was willing to cut him some slack on that, but now he DEFENDS it, :facepalm: and has come out in opposition to a border fence and AZ-style immigration laws. :mad:
Romney is, well, Romney. He's not really a conservative, I think there's plenty of RINO under the skin.
Bachmann is generally agreeable, but she really needs to get some fact-checkers and handlers on her staff - she's making too many avoidable mistakes.
I generally liked him in the Senate, but Santorum carries an air of desperation with him that fails to inspire me.
Gingrich is well-learned, well-spoken, but has made some inexcusable blunders (such as his comments about the Ryan plan) that make me wonder about him.
Cain is a smart guy that has a lot going for him, but he doesn't seem to be getting any traction.
Ron Paul was my congressman for a while and I voted for him – in fact I’d STILL vote for him for Congress, but after seeing him say 9/11 was “blowback” for US policy, I don’t want him anywhere near the Oval Office.
With what he's said before, Jon Hunter is running in the wrong party’s primary.
ANY ONE of these would be a big improvement over Obama, but if I had to make a choice today, I’d vote for Bachmann, with Cain a strong runner-up. The rest, in order today and subject to change in the future, would be Gingrich, Romney/Perry (tie), Santorum, Hunter, and Paul.
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;/ We refer to politicians with their title even after they are out of office. Representative, Senator, Governor, President...
I know, but I disagree with it. When they leave office, or the military, their title should be left behind.
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Cain is the only one I'd want as a next-door neighbor.
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Cain is the only one I'd want as a next-door neighbor.
Interesting point. I agree.
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I think Romney's probably the best debater of the bunch. I think Perry's more conservative than he is, but you could probably say the same for Joe Lieberman. I don't plan to vote for either one until the general election.
after seeing him say 9/11 was “blowback” for US policy, I don’t want him anywhere near the Oval Office.
The perp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Osama_bin_Laden_video) responsible said that very thing. Foreign policy is always going to piss somebody off, especially when you take sides.
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I know, but I disagree with it. When they leave office, or the military, their title should be left behind.
I'll agree about the military, but the policritters should have to wear their title like a scarlet letter to remind the rest of us what they used to did! =D
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Personally, as it stands currently, I'd most like to see Cain get the nomination.
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Personally, as it stands currently, I'd most like to see Cain get the nomination.
I agree. I also desperately want to see Dems scream "Uncle Tom Race Traitor" and unprintable things on live TV. Either Cain, Paul (you know it's bad when I'm choosing Ron Paul) or Bachmann. Johnson, Huntsman, and Santorum are nobodies, I think. *expletive deleted*ck Romney.
Perry, unfortunately, will be the GOP selection, I think, and he's looking a lot like a younger version of "McCain '08". We are so *expletive deleted*ed.
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Avenger, I disagree in one particular. I think Perry was dealt a mortal blow on immigration/benefits, by Santorum in particular. Absent some radical development, I forese a Romney nomination, and a second Obama term.
Regardless, to your broader point, I agree we are "expletive deleted"ed.
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Avenger, I disagree in one particular. I think Perry was dealt a mortal blow on immigration/benefits, by Santorum in particular. Absent some radical development, I forese a Romney nomination, and a second Obama term.
Regardless, to your broader point, I agree we are "expletive deleted"ed.
Yeah, that you have no heart comment spells the end for Perry I think.
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Which is problematic. While not ideal, Perry was/is at least palatable. Romney on the other hand...Avenger has already put it very eloquently.
If the race comes down to Obama and Romney, we're screwed and the best we can hope for is a decent congress.
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I think Perry was dealt a mortal blow on immigration/benefits, by Santorum in particular. Absent some radical development, I forese a Romney nomination, and a second Obama term.
Yeah. Perry got hammered on immigration. He was also rather crappy in his debating style, tripping over his words a few times.
I think Romney could win, I'm just not sure if there'd be a difference between his policies and Obama's if he did.
We are so *expletive deleted*ed.
Yep.
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Ron Swanson and John Bolton.
Or maybe Allen West and Herman Cain.
The ideal matchup would be Ron Paul and Alan Keyes, but I don't think that'll happen.
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And now Christie is apparently thinking of getting in.
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Cain, Bachman, Paul, Gingrich. Johnson, Huntsman, and Santorum are nobodies, I think. *expletive deleted* Romney. Perry is a maybe.
Any combo of Bachman, Herman Cain and/or (Allen West/VP). Talk about chaos in the D party. They wouldn't know whether to *expletive deleted*it or go blind. A black man and a woman running together. You'll see the racists and sexists come storming out of the left. That's what made Palin so popular. A "regular" mom getting hammered on by the liberal elites.
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Talk about chaos in the D party. They wouldn't know whether to *expletive deleted* or go blind. A black man and a woman running together.
Would you put the black man at the top of the ticket, or the woman on top? :angel:
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The trouble is that most of voting America is so caught up in the cult of personality rather than issues, the R's best candidate won't survive the primaries. Plus the D's and their toadies in the media will promote a Rino they know they can beat or who will "reach across the aisle" and $%&@ Democrat *^&# rather than shoot across the aisle.
Reynaldas Magnus where are you when we need you.
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The perp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Osama_bin_Laden_video) responsible said that very thing. Foreign policy is always going to piss somebody off, especially when you take sides.
Pro tip: if you want to defend a candidate's position, don't say that it mirrors bin Laden's. =)
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Perry did himself serious hurt with his position on illegal immigration. Romney improved his position with his explanation of Romneycare. I don't buy it, but some were mollified. Every time Cane shows up he improves his prospects as VP to a nominee who is marginally acceptable to TEA types.
Yeah, Cane would be a good neighbor. I can see him being hot and sweaty cutting grass in an Atlanta burb. I don't see Romney sweating.
That said, with the financial *expletive deleted*-storm closing in on us, perhaps we do need someone who knows something about finance.
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Yeah, that you have no heart comment spells the end for Perry I think.
When you try to defend your stance by saying that anyone who disagrees with you is a bad person, you've pretty much conceded that you're on the wrong side of the argument.
And on discounted tuition for illegals, Perry is SO wrong . . . over four years, the Perry ILLEGAL ALIEN tuition discount means Americans from other states will pay about $91,000 MORE in tuition to attend U.T. than ILLEGAL ALIENS will. And they'll be paying student load for YEARS to benefit these ILLEGAL ALIENS whose tuition they'll be effectively subsidizing. :mad:
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but after seeing him say 9/11 was “blowback” for US policy, I don’t want him anywhere near the Oval Office.
??? Are you saying that, what, they just through a dart at a world map and decided to attack wherever it landed?
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Up until the last debate I kind of liked Perry, but he has the same sickness GW & McCain has, he wants America to bohica for illegals.
I voted Paul in the poll because he is the most constituion oriented - I doubt he has a chance though, it would be nice getting rid of some of the fed bureaucracy though.
I really really want Sarah in the whitehouse, four years of radlibs crying would be great entertainment.
Really though we got to get behind anyone & get rid of obummer.
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We'd better draw the line on the critical issues for this coming election. We can't afford to compromise on things that will make America unrecognizable in a few years, though we will be told by everyone and his uncle that we have to. Americans are still trying hard to play by the rules; they want to believe in the system. That means being listened to. It means that we make clear who holds the ultimate power in America. This coming election will be a referendum on that system and whether there will another election after 2012...
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I see Cain just won, easily, the Florida straw poll. Another message sent. Doesn't mean Cain will be the next President, but it means a lot of Americans like what Cain is presenting. They don't want GOP "business as usual." I hope somebody Up There is listening.
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??? Are you saying that, what, they just through a dart at a world map and decided to attack wherever it landed?
OK, you win . . . they're very careful and only hit those who deserve it.
They had excellent reasons for attacking the Twin Towers and Pentagon.
They had excellent reasons for blowing up a plane over Lockerbie.
They had excellent reasons for blowing up a subway in London.
They had excellent reasons for blowing up a train in Madrid.
They had excellent reasons for murdering tourists at the Valley of the Kings.
They had excellent reasons for hijacking the Achille Lauro.
They had excellent reasons for the attack in Mumbai.
They had excellent reasons for attacking the Beslan school.
They have excellent reasons for the continued bombings all across the Middle East and North Africa, killing more Moslems than Westerners.
Everyone had it coming - Ron Paul is right, it's all blowback. If we were just nice to them, and left them alone, they'd be peaceful as can be.
There.
Satisfied?
:facepalm:
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And so did the Florida Straw Poll. Cain will never raise the money Perry or Romney will. And Bachman won a straw poll too. Look where she finished.
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OK, you win . . . they're very careful and only hit those who deserve it.
They had excellent reasons for attacking the Twin Towers and Pentagon.
They had excellent reasons for blowing up a plane over Lockerbie.
They had excellent reasons for blowing up a subway in London.
They had excellent reasons for blowing up a train in Madrid.
They had excellent reasons for murdering tourists at the Valley of the Kings.
They had excellent reasons for hijacking the Achille Lauro.
They had excellent reasons for the attack in Mumbai.
They had excellent reasons for attacking the Beslan school.
They have excellent reasons for the continued bombings all across the Middle East and North Africa, killing more Moslems than Westerners.
Everyone had it coming - Ron Paul is right, it's all blowback. If we were just nice to them, and left them alone, they'd be peaceful as can be.
There.
Satisfied?
:facepalm:
Dear Lord, go get yourself to a fainting couch.
Yes, the savages hate us on general principle. They even go so far as to shoot up and go murderous against countries that give them verbal tongue-baths and a "happy ending" massage. (Yes, Spain I am looking at you.)
But, if you think things like our material support for "the Jooos," basing our men & women on in their ass-crack countries, and the like don't rile them up even more--and cause many to take up arms instead of just bad mouthing us--you are not in touch with reality as experienced by humans(1).
Sadly, Ron Paul is one of the few folks most in touch with the reality of those damnable goat-diddlers, by taking their threats seriously. Sure would have been nice if Clinton and then GWB would have. Citing OBL is not nutty, it is the first step to understanding.
(1) Calling someone a horse's ass is one thing, and likely to get some folks riled up. Calling someone a horse's ass and then slapping them will result in a larger proportion getting riled up.
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Of course, RP and I disagree as to the solution. I think turning the locations where folks got riled up into rubble and killing the riled is a fine pedagogical example to others. Some folks just need killing.
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The FL poll is important due to one fact.
All those who have won it in the past go on to win the nomination.
So it's a good barometer.
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The poll says something about how fed up Americans are with the current system and the choices they are presented with. Cain is pointing the way toward what America wants.
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I don't see the point in a Herman Gain candidacy. I thought all of us who weren't raaaaacists were voting for the Obama. ???
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So according to this poll we finally have our four front runners.... Cain, Perry, Bachman and Gingrich. :angel:
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It's three thousand people in Florida. Draw your own conclusion as to what that sample represents.