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Boosting wifi signal
« on: September 07, 2010, 07:55:42 PM »
My sister lives in an apartment where the only internet available is the open wifi network of her landlords, who live next door. The trouble is the signal is very weak. This must be a pretty common story. Is there some way for her to put in a repeater or do something else to boost the wifi signal?
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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2010, 08:04:54 PM »
My sister lives in an apartment where the only internet available is the open wifi network of her landlords, who live next door. The trouble is the signal is very weak. This must be a pretty common story. Is there some way for her to put in a repeater or do something else to boost the wifi signal?

USB wifi coupled with a directional antenna.  Works OK if she uses the lappy at a table or desk.

OR

Buy her landlord a directional antenna.  This might be easier in the long run.  One of the 90deg beasties ought to dothe trick.
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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2010, 08:06:38 PM »
Yep, she could just put in a repeater of some kind.  A while back I had a Netgear something or another as my main router and used an ASUS-520GC flashed w/ DD-WRT to extend the signal.  I later moved the ASUS-520GC to the main router and bought an ASUS-520GU to extend that network.  Works pretty well.

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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2010, 08:13:50 PM »
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used an ASUS-520GC flashed w/ DD-WRT to extend the signal

Dammit, I just threw out a WRT54g. How do you set a router up as a repeater? Do they make plug-and-play repeaters? The sister in question lives across the country so I can't really go there to hack on her setup.
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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 08:22:29 PM »
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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 08:42:29 PM »
Dammit, I just threw out a WRT54g. How do you set a router up as a repeater? Do they make plug-and-play repeaters? The sister in question lives across the country so I can't really go there to hack on her setup.


Dear Lord in Heaven, I did not read that.  Toss out a working WRT54g? 

Bad zahc, no signal for you!

My neighbor used one as a repeater with ddwrt a ways back.
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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 09:02:02 PM »
Actually, the one I tossed was unreliable. It had been known to work, but I had been having trouble with it constantly. So, I tell myself that I'm still better off having tossed it.
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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2010, 10:24:11 PM »
Could have been bad caps, zahc.  A cheap, easy fix if you had known.
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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2010, 11:11:18 PM »
Dammit, I just threw out a WRT54g. How do you set a router up as a repeater? Do they make plug-and-play repeaters? The sister in question lives across the country so I can't really go there to hack on her setup.

It wasn't too hard, and there was a handy guide for it somewhere on the DD-WRT site.   Flashing the firmware wasn't hard either, but I tend to be a bit more tech savvy than most.   If you know the SSID of the network she wants to repeat and any security that's on it you could probably stage it at your house and then ship it over pre-configured.

Right now you can snag a 520GC on Amazon for $29.99.  They're not a bad deal.  I'm pretty happy with mine. I've still got some issues with my NAS setup on the 520GU though. :(

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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2010, 10:01:46 AM »
Have you looked into this:  http://www.google.com/tisp/

It gets good reviews.

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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010, 10:23:29 AM »
Could have been bad caps, zahc.  A cheap, easy fix if you had known.

My neighbor, being a PhD EE with puh-lenty of hands-on electronics experience, souped up one of those WRT54g puppies. Replaced the caps, overclocked the cpu, installed a fan, etc.
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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2010, 10:25:54 AM »
Could have been bad caps, zahc.  A cheap, easy fix if you had known.

I read somewhere that most router failures are actually power supply brick failures.  When mine failed, I couldn't find a matching brick, so I had to buy a new router anyway, though.

I don't remember why I couldn't find an equivalent supply.  Some obscure voltage/current requirement, possibly, or maybe the brick didn't post its capability (unlikely) or possibly it was some proprietary connector (also unlikely).

Or maybe I just needed the router right away and didn't have time to track down an equivalent supply.

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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2010, 10:28:48 AM »
My neighbor, being a PhD EE with puh-lenty of hands-on electronics experience, souped up one of those WRT54g puppies. Replaced the caps, overclocked the cpu, installed a fan, etc.

Replacing the caps is not trivial, especially if they are surface mount.  I do a fair bit of soldering but I won't attempt to solder devices at surface mount dimensions.  If you're talking about big electrolytic caps, then maybe. 

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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 11:00:07 AM »
Have you looked into this:  http://www.google.com/tisp/

Is this for real, and not some elaborate hoax?

Uhhhh

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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 11:03:48 AM »
I have about 87 wall warts and can cobble together something that will run 3.5 - 12 vdc in an hour

heck, I have a huge cast iron benchmount variable powersupply in a lovely brown crackle finish

IMHO, what every wiring closet needs is a digital dc power supply

snip the power lead and plug in

what I am finding interesting are the charging AMPs required for 5 volt USB devices

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The standard iPad charger and Griffin's PowerBlock are both spec'd to pump out 5 volts at 2.1 amps (so ~10 watts). The iPhone's standard compact power adapter runs at 5V at 1.1 amps (~5 watts). The MacBook Pro USB port is a little more complicated—if you have a newer Intel model, like we used, the port adapts to what you plug into it. Normally, it pumps out 5V at 500 milliamps, but if you plug in something like an iPad and it has the juice to spare, the port becomes a high-powered port, juicing your iPad at 1.1 amps, so roughly the same as the iPhone charger. (Note: All of these adapters are smart and dynamically adjust output, which is why you can plug your iPhone into an iPad charger and it won't go kablooey.)

http://gizmodo.com/5535631/the-fastest-and-slowest-way-to-charge-an-ipad
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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2010, 11:42:21 AM »
Is this for real, and not some elaborate hoax?

Seems legit to me.  Just look at the install instructions:
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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2010, 12:01:35 PM »
there is another way, an access card with removable ant.(better ap so it's away from the computer) and........

http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/weblog/view/wlg/448
http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/has.html
there are commercial ones, but i can't find any right now. :facepalm:

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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2010, 07:20:19 PM »
Look, tiny text!

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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2010, 09:44:10 PM »
Replacing the caps is not trivial, especially if they are surface mount.  I do a fair bit of soldering but I won't attempt to solder devices at surface mount dimensions.  If you're talking about big electrolytic caps, then maybe. 

Desoldered two 860mf at 4V from a legacy industrial PC mobo yesterday for testing.  Had to put them back on today.  I've got to put a small .01mf or thereabouts cap and a 470k resistor on tomorrow.  Yeesh, damn dinky surface mount stuff.
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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2010, 10:24:47 PM »
few ideas. surface mount. there are more on the audio diy boards.

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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2010, 12:44:59 AM »
Interesting.  They even have my brand of soldering iron in their picture.

Inconvenient trying to locate correct soldering iron tip replacements, though.

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Re: Boosting wifi signal
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2010, 09:44:03 PM »
if you have a weller, etc. . it is just a matter or order mins.

http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=1002249+500003
http://www.mouser.com/Tools-Supplies/Tools/Soldering-Tools/_/N-5ggf?P=1z0xi9u
and i think i saw amazon or newegg(or similar) selling the entire weller line lately.