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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: wmenorr67 on December 10, 2011, 01:08:46 PM
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http://www.guns.com/a-henry-repeater-in-45-70-for-2012.html
Henry Repeating Arms has confirmed with us via Electronic Mail that they will indeed put to market a classic repeater in the patriarchal .45-70. It's going to be a mid-sized 20-inch rifle.....
WANT!!!!
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http://www.guns.com/a-henry-repeater-in-45-70-for-2012.html
WANT!!!!
Not as long as you have to load it like a .22lr...... ;/
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the more 45-70's out there the better!
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http://www.guns.com/a-henry-repeater-in-45-70-for-2012.html
WANT!!!!
<sarcasm>Eh. Get me a drum fed Saiga in .45-70. Money into noise -- woo hoo!</sarcasm>
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Looks like the 45/70 Marlin I owned years ago. Is the Marlin still available?
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http://www.guns.com/a-henry-repeater-in-45-70-for-2012.html
WANT!!!!
Pick me up one while your buying.
jim
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Not as long as you have to load it like a .22lr...... ;/
Yeah.
Would a loading gate have killed them?
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Looks like the 45/70 Marlin I owned years ago. Is the Marlin still available?
That was my first thought also. (And as far as I know Marlin still makes sells the .45-70)Then I saw the magazine loading and thought- Would a loading gate have killed them?
It sure looks like the Marlin action and if they were going to copy it that close why not copy the loading gate in the receiver.
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Seriously. Loading gate. If for no other reason then the ability to easily top off the mag.
This niche is filled in my collection with my .444, but if it wasn't, I wouldn't look at this rifle because of the loading. Marlin's 1895GBL is the 45-70 to get.
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^This. The Marlin is on my lust list.
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Already have a Marlin Guide Gun in .450, but agree on the ghey loading mechanism.
Do not want. If you're going to copy Marlin, at least do it RIGHT.
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What are you guys going after to need to top off?
If a couple of rounds don't take care of it, you brought the wrong gun.
jim
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zombies
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zombies
Grizzly zombies.
What are you guys going after to need to top off?
If a couple of rounds don't take care of it, you brought the wrong gun.
jim
Why deliberately hamstring the gun with a crappy load method, when you have public domain intellectual property to integrate the loading gate into the receiver?
I think having the load gate near the muzzle is inherently dangerous.
Also, if you actually send 2-3 rounds downrange at something (like a griz, or a zombie, or a pack of griz zombies), it's a good idea to top off. Leaving aside the gun safety issue of putting your hand near the muzzle on a loaded lever gun... that barrel is HOT. And you gotta touch it to manipulate the magazine's spring plunger tube.
I hate that the Marlin 60 shows up on Appleseed lines more often than the Marlin 795. Identical rifles... you can even convert a 60 to a 795 and vice versa. But the tube magazine is an anachronism that needs to die.
Yes, I own two tube guns... a Winchester 94 in .30-30 and the afore mentioned .450... But the box magazine is safer from a drop-perspective, from a handling perspective, from a loading/rate of fire perspective, and from an accuracy potential perspective.
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Then you need a belt fed 45-70.
jim
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What are you guys going after to need to top off?
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.....that'll take more than one round.....
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Perhaps they're making a replica of the original ;/
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Hell... While they're at it, why not innovate, and actually put a loading gate on the left side...
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Or put the loading gate underneath like a shotgun.
How big would a box magazine have to be to accommodate 45/70? If you are really doing to do that, you would likely be better off going with non-rimmed ammo. However, if you are going to do that, you might as well buy a Savage 99. For the size and weight, a tube fed levergun is very handy and easy to carry around. IMO, guns like the Savage 99 are better choices for high velocity BTHP ammo.
I don't like loading from the end of the tube. I recall seeing that on a 30/30 when I was in the market for one. I didn't like it then either.
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Or put the loading gate underneath like a shotgun.
How big would a box magazine have to be to accommodate 45/70?
Big.
If I remember correctly, there have been some Enfields converted to .45-70. 3 rounds fit in the Enfield's existing box magazine, where 10 rounds of .303 fit.
Ah, yes, here we go: http://www.gibbsrifle.com/sport_speciality_.html (http://www.gibbsrifle.com/sport_speciality_.html).
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You might just be back to my idea above, of a .45-70 drum.
Heck of a thing to do to an Enfield.
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Just get a Sharps. You can carry all the ammo you want on your belt.
:lol:
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Already have a Marlin Guide Gun in .450, but agree on the ghey loading mechanism.
Do not want. If you're going to copy Marlin, at least do it RIGHT.
Jealousy! Drool! Trade slightly used wife for this!
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Jealousy! Drool! Trade slightly used wife for this!
What else will you throw in to make it even?
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Jealousy! Drool! Trade slightly used wife for this!
Pics of wife?
Here is gun:
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Pics of wife?
Here is gun:
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She's gorgeous! =)
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I have the Cowboy above, but I can see how the GBL below would be a bit handier. Considering the cartridge, that extra length doesn't feel so bad in that rifle than it would in others. I haven't had to carry it any distance though.
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Not as long as you have to load it like a .22lr...... ;/
Looks like you're spot on http://www.guns.com/images/editor/4570.jpg
Look at the void in the mag tube.