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Title: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: wmenorr67 on July 27, 2008, 01:59:10 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/07/27/iran.executions/index.html?iref=topnews

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TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Twenty-nine people convicted of various crimes, ranging from murder to being a public nuisance while drunk, were hanged in Iran, state TV said.

A convicted Iranian drug dealer is hanged from a crane in the southern city of Shiraz in September.

Iran's semi-official Fars News Agency reported earlier that 30 people would be put to death. It was not immediately clear if the last person's life was spared.

The Iranian judiciary's statement said that all 30 were convicted of various crimes, which included: murder, murder in commission of a crime, disturbing public safety and security, being a public nuisance while drunk and being involved in illegal relationships -- relationships between men and women who are not married to each other.

Kidnapping and using weapons while committing a crime were also among the charges.

The statement also said that 20 of the convicts were convicted of drug and alcohol dealing, armed robbery and smuggling arms.

The judiciary statement said that the convicts had their cases tried by the highest judicial authorities and were found guilty of the charges brought against them. The verdicts were final with their sentences carried out on Sunday.

The judiciary said the hangings should serve as a warning to those who are contemplating committing such crimes, the agency reported.

The statement also said that several other individuals are currently awaiting trial and their sentences will be carried out as soon as the verdicts are pronounced by the courts.

According to Amnesty International, Iran executed 317 people last year, second only to China's 470.

Iran's government launched a campaign March 20 to increase public security and bring the crime rate down.

Police cracked down on alleged drug dealers, whom they called criminal gang members, and alleged habitual criminals who use guns in the commission of their crime. Alleged weapons smugglers and people who break social and religious laws, including adulterers, were also targets.

National television showed scenes of what were described as criminals being paraded publicly in chains as a deterrent to others. The wave of arrests has now subsided, as officials are now prosecuting the alleged criminals and sentencing those convicted.

I wonder what the official "crime" rate is?
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: MicroBalrog on July 27, 2008, 02:37:59 AM
Officially Iran has 2.93 murders per 100,000 people.
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: wmenorr67 on July 27, 2008, 02:42:23 AM
Officially Iran has 2.93 murders per 100,000 people.

That is only part of the stats.  What about other "crimes," like the ones these people hung for?
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: Regolith on July 27, 2008, 02:53:01 AM
A better question would be, are the statistics accurate?  This is the country that photoshopped over a failed missile launch because they were afraid it might make them look bad, remember.
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: Lennyjoe on July 27, 2008, 05:37:35 AM
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Twenty-nine people convicted of various crimes, ranging from murder to being a public nuisance while drunk,
Could you imagine if we had laws hanging drunk people being a nuisance to the public.   shocked
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: MicroBalrog on July 27, 2008, 05:39:06 AM
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Twenty-nine people convicted of various crimes, ranging from murder to being a public nuisance while drunk,
Could you imagine if we had laws hanging drunk people being a nuisance to the public.   shocked

There are people on this very forum advocating forced labor for people who carry a concealed pistol without a license.
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: Werewolf on July 27, 2008, 06:02:02 AM
Wow!

And a lot of y'all are the same guys that say their house their rules when someone says they ignore the no weapons signs or carry concealed at the work place in violation of company policy.

Iran sucks - but it's their country. They get to make the rules.

Don't like their rules then invade 'em, take 'em over and change the rules. Wouldn't be the 1st time that's happened in the 6000 years of recorded human history.

Otherwise just deal with it.
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: MicroBalrog on July 27, 2008, 08:18:22 AM
So we can't criticize other nation's governemnts for being a bunch of oppressive, immoral idiots?
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: lupinus on July 27, 2008, 08:49:19 AM
A lot of people need to remember it wasn't long ago we hung people for creatively acquiring a new horse.  They use it for some stuff I don't agree with, but it's their choice. 
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: roo_ster on July 27, 2008, 09:01:16 AM
So we can't criticize other nation's governemnts for being a bunch of oppressive, immoral idiots?

Please, do criticize the savages of the world.  It is the least moral men can do.
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: MicroBalrog on July 27, 2008, 10:47:12 AM
A lot of people need to remember it wasn't long ago we hung people for creatively acquiring a new horse.  They use it for some stuff I don't agree with, but it's their choice. 

And that was quite likely immoral and wrong as well. And the death penalty for adultery is wrong. And the death penalty for escaped slaves is wrong. And slavery is immoral and wrong, too.

Some stuff is immoral and wrong, and cannot be validated by the mere fact a sovereign nation is doing it.

Good and evil exist.
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: Tallpine on July 27, 2008, 10:51:51 AM
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A convicted Iranian drug dealer is hanged from a crane in the southern city of Shiraz in September.

Not to mention the crime of "hanging around town with no visible means of support." Wink
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: Werewolf on July 27, 2008, 11:57:14 AM
So we can't criticize other nation's governemnts for being a bunch of oppressive, immoral idiots?

Ummmm...

Not if you're one of those guys who happens to be a their house, their rules guys. You'd just be a screeching hypocrite then.

But if you're not...
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: Balog on July 30, 2008, 12:54:35 PM
I wish we'd bring back public hangings here. For legitimate reasons, not adultery or drunk in public[/Ron White voice].
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: French G. on July 30, 2008, 06:18:27 PM
Then of course there is the problem that a lot of Iranian executions seem to be short or no drop hanging. Strangulation, not breaking the neck. Real nice folks there. So if you are a drunk, gay adulterer, what do they do to you?
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on July 30, 2008, 08:41:17 PM
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Twenty-nine people convicted of various crimes, ranging from murder to being a public nuisance while drunk,
Could you imagine if we had laws hanging drunk people being a nuisance to the public.   shocked
College graduation rates would fall off a cliff.
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: anygunanywhere on July 31, 2008, 04:19:37 AM
Officially Iran has 2.93 murders per 100,000 people.

I am assuming that this does not include family honor killings.

Anygunanywhere
Title: Re: 29 convicts executed in Iran
Post by: MicroBalrog on July 31, 2008, 04:52:32 AM
Officially Iran has 2.93 murders per 100,000 people.

I am assuming that this does not include family honor killings.

Anygunanywhere

You do realize it's still more than any decent Eurozone country?