Pelosi to try reconciliation on health care bill

[Monkeyleg]

They just didn't get the message.

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Rep. Paul Ryan (R., Wis.), the ranking member of the House Budget Committee, tellsNational Review Online that House Democrats are planning to use the budget-reconciliation process in order to pass Obamacare. “They’re meeting with each other this weekend to pursue it,” says Ryan. “I’ve spoken with many Democrats and the message is this: They’re not ready to give up. They’ve waited their entire adult lives for this moment, and they aren’t ready to let 100,000 pesky votes in Massachusetts get in the way of fulfilling their destiny. They’ll look at every option and spend the next four or five days figuring it out.”

If the Democrats pass a health-care bill through reconciliation, it means they would need only 51 votes in the Senate for final passage. To start the process, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) would need to bring a new health-care bill to the House Budget Committee with reconciliation instructions, with the Senate doing the same. “They’d have to go back to the beginning of the process,” says Ryan. “They’d need to affix reconciliation instructions to a new bill.” Doing so, he says, wouldn’t be too hard. “There’s nothing we can do to stop this from a technical standpoint, since all they need is a simple majority vote and our ratio on the committee is terrible. What [Republicans] can do on the Budget Committee is pass resolutions for the Rules Committee to insist on certain changes in the bill and create a ‘vote-a-rama’ atmosphere.”

If reconciliation happens, Ryan predicts that the Democrats will still have a hard time pulling it off. “There are Blue Dog Democrats out there who are more survivalist than ideologues. One or two switches could be a game changer. The question is whether Democrats will continue to follow Pelosi off the cliff. After Massachusetts, the Democrats are quickly realizing that even if the president comes in to stump, and you get all the union support you need, it’s still not enough to get you elected.”

[Northwoods]

 

I wish that was sincere.

 

[Boomhauer]

They just didn't get the message.

They don't care about the message. They just want to do as much damage as possible while in power, and this is the chance they have been waiting for. Even if they are voted out of office within the next 2 years or so, they will still be back in power sooner or later. May be 8 years or more, may not. Doesn't matter because if this healthcare bill gets passed, it will be a major blow to the economy and the Dems win.

Personally, I think the Dems realized they would only have a limited time in control anyway, so they decided to do as much damage as possible while they could.

[Monkeyleg]

But I thought there was no difference between Democrats and Republicans.

[Boomhauer]

But I thought there was no difference between Democrats and Republicans.

I agree that most of the Republicans have had a pretty poor record on spending and several other issues, including some of the constitutional rights. However, they are nothing compared to the Democrats. The Stupid Party pretty much just sits on their asses while sucking their thumbs and ignoring their supporters. Not what we want them doing, but, well, at least they aren't actively trying to destroy the economy and the United States.

The leftists, however, are plain evil. They want to crush the individual and have everybody completely dependent on and controlled by the government, which will of course be controlled by the Democrats.

The Republicans have failed to stop the "Big Spending!" train and instead continued to ride it during the last time they were in control. This contributed to them eventually getting thrown out. The Democrats then climbed on board, and laughing maniacally, pushed the lever to "FULL SPEED AHEAD" and broke off the brake handle. We're screwed.




 

[Battle Monkey of Zardoz]

The only difference between the Democrats and Republicans is the speed if the hand basket headed to Hell.

[MicroBalrog]

But I thought there was no difference between Democrats and Republicans.

Quite often, you'd be right.

[Sergeant Bob]

But I thought there was no difference between Democrats and Republicans.

Sure there's a difference between Democrats and Republicans, kinda like the difference between a turd sandwich and a turd sandwich with cheese. At least there is something good about the latter.

[Nitrogen]

But I thought there was no difference between Democrats and Republicans.

The only difference between democrats and republicans is who they want to give our hard earned tax dollars away to.

[Balog]

Meh, Germans or Quislings we're stilled hosed either way.

[RevDisk]

Meh, Germans or Quislings we're stilled hosed either way.

But at least the Germans brought good beer.   

We're not like to be as lucky.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

But I thought there was no difference between Democrats and Republicans.

Looks like you struck a nerve with that remark, eh?

[Monkeyleg]

Looks like you struck a nerve with that remark, eh?

Yes. Pelosi is being given better treatment than the Republicans.

[Boomhauer]

Yes. Pelosi is being given better treatment than the Republicans.

I'll happily talk about Pelosi, but my words would quickly get me banned.

[longeyes]

They are not going to stop their evil ways, and given the other legislation and diktats on the runway we will be talking about far more serious issues in a year or two.  Yes, I mean the S-word.

[Waitone]

Yeah, well, it ain't democrats who ain't figgured it out.

Seems like Soros is running his flag up the pole.  I find it more than interesting to see who is saluting. 
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/19254

The newly minted political superstars of the republican party had better buy a clue.  Those who put them in office or bought their books are in no mood for the games of yesteryear.  McCain personally dug the hole in which he finds himself.  Newly minted republican superstars had better think a number of times before giving McCain a hand at extricating himself from his richly deserved hole.

[MechAg94]

When was the last time Democrats passed a tax cut?

[Standing Wolf]

When was the last time Democrats passed a tax cut?

1962, I believe.

[taurusowner]

The Dems are playing the long game.  It doesn't matter if they pass this bill and a hundred others that arebad for the country, and it doesn't matter if they all get thrown out of office because of it.  They're not just thinking of 2010 or 2012.  They're thinking of 50 years from now.  All they need to do now is create dependents.  Make people HAVE to rely on the government for everything they can think of.  It may be unpopular now, and even get them tossed out.  But when the next generation grows into the system, the Dems will be there to reap the rewards.  They will have an entire nation of people who MUST vote for them and give them power to even survive.

[longeyes]

Yes, the Dems are playing for the long-term, which is exactly what those who value the legacy of this nation should be doing.  To do that, however, we will have to get some clarity about what's been going on, where the problems lie, and commit to an unsparing and hard-minded course of action.  An example of this is what we have permitted to happen in our educational community over the last five decades: if we don't address the destructive agendas of the pedagogic establishment in this nation and correct them we have surely lost the future.