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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Nick1911 on October 21, 2009, 01:56:34 PM
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Here's the form:
http://foia.fbi.gov/privacy_request.pdf
And the instructions:
http://foia.fbi.gov/privacy_instruc.htm
I thought it was interesting. I wonder what kind of flags requesting your own record sets off?
I suppose if they didn't have a file on your before, they would probably start one with that request. :O
Has anyone here requested your own record?
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I might have to do this, because I know I probably have a file.... :angel:
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I like the way the put in "State how much you are willing to pay in duplication fees if any are assessed."
Brad
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I wonder what kind of flags requesting your own record sets off?
The only way to find out is to request it... twice. =D
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I thought it was interesting. I wonder what kind of flags requesting your own record sets off?
I suppose if they didn't have a file on your before, they would probably start one with that request. :O
Has anyone here requested your own record?
No, but my parents have seen my record. Or part of it anyways.
I've been told that if you're serious about the matter, you might have to look into sending such requests to field offices as well. Not all records are stored in DC, and if you just make the request to the DC office, you will get the DC records. Don't know if this information is outdated, but I doubt it.
Example http://www.llrx.com/columns/foia43.htm
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I have seen my own record - at least what was in it as of 1975. Turned it around and pointed out to the 3 Agents where the major errors were and started to pencil in the corrections when they snatched it back and held it like it was their own newborn child.
I'm sure there have been additions to it since then - mostly from stuff I sent them asking for it to be added. (Yes, I am a smartass and no, I do not know when I am better off.)
I've had parts of my security clearance file read to me as part of a threat to withdraw my clearance. Also parts of both parents' files at the same meeting. For some strange reason they never did pull my clearance. I doubt it was the threat to go public if they did. :angel:
All I know is whenever I buy a gun I need to factor in an additional 15-20 minutes for the OK to come back that it's OK to check my file for convictions. Thank goodness Virginia runs its own check off of State Police records instead of going to the FBI files.
stay safe.
skidmark
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I'd actually like to do this. I wonder how much the copying fees are?
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I'd actually like to do this. I wonder how much the copying fees are?
Seconded. I'm worried about writing in too little or too much regarding "how much I'm willing to pay."
Also, as far as field offices are concerned, would it be ones for areas I've lived before, or since turning 18, or what? ???
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I do not recall what the limit is, but the .gov is limited to how much it can charge per page. The question is - how many pages are in your report?
As for which office - ask for records from any office for any location you have ever been to, driven through, flown over, written about or thought about.
stay safe.
skidmark
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Seconded. I'm worried about writing in too little or too much regarding "how much I'm willing to pay."
http://www.llrx.com/columns/foia9.htm
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"If you are interested in records pertaining to a particular incident you were involved in, please describe it. "
i wonder how many stupid criminals have been caught by asking about specific events they were involved in.
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of course requesting your documentation initiates a 37/b record
and a special signifier flagging your loyalty oath record
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I do not recall what the limit is, but the .gov is limited to how much it can charge per page. The question is - how many pages are in your report?
As for which office - ask for records from any office for any location you have ever been to, driven through, flown over, written about or thought about.
stay safe.
skidmark
:O ok so my file is going to weigh 500lbs :angel:
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:O ok so my file is going to weigh 500lbs :angel:
Obviously a loafer who has not done a thing for any cause. =D
Get with the program and get some heft to your files. Yes, plural. They get confused between Vol II and III, and often mix up Vol VII and VIII. :angel:
stay safe.
skidmark
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Obviously a loafer who has not done a thing for any cause. =D
Get with the program and get some heft to your files. Yes, plural. They get confused between Vol II and III, and often mix up Vol VII and VIII. :angel:
stay safe.
skidmark
Dayum. :O
Brad
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Seconded. I'm worried about writing in too little or too much regarding "how much I'm willing to pay."
Also, as far as field offices are concerned, would it be ones for areas I've lived before, or since turning 18, or what? ???
In most government record offices, the standard charge for copies is 10 cents per page. I don't see any reason why copies from the FBI would be worth more.
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I'd rather see my Stasi and KGB files..... :O :O
:police:
=D
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I'd rather see my Stasi and KGB files..... :O :O
:police:
=D
Homeland Security fees are as follows:
* duplication at 10 cents per page;
* clerical search/review at $4.00/15 minutes;
* professional search/review at $7.00/15 minutes;
* managerial search/review at $10.25/15 minutes.
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There you go
Q. How much will you pay for copies?
A. ##cents/page
This way you won't get charged 100 bucks for ten pages nor will they stop before your file is completely copied, which I assume is the concern.
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I'd rather see my Stasi and KGB files..... :O :O
:police:
=D
The Stasi files might be possible soon. I read that they're gluing together all those papers (a couple of rooms worth of them) that got fed through paper shredders just before the wall fell. IIRC, they're scanning them en masse now and letting computers sort it out. Do post what you find when you find it :laugh: =D.
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They got back to me quicker than I thought...
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:D
Reminds me of Forrest Whitacker's line in "Good Morning Vietnam."
"My life flashed before my eyes, and I wasn't even interested."
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I'm paying $62 on Saturday so the state bar can have the joy of viewing my state police and FBI files. I'd feel a lot better about my $62 if I got to see them too. Pretty sure there's not much anyone could possibly care enough about to bother putting in a file.
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I'm paying $62 on Saturday so the state bar can have the joy of viewing my state police and FBI files. I'd feel a lot better about my $62 if I got to see them too. Pretty sure there's not much anyone could possibly care enough about to bother putting in a file.
Can't you immediately subpoena the state bar for those records after they give you the thumbs up? :police:
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Seconded. I'm worried about writing in too little or too much regarding "how much I'm willing to pay."
"No copy fees - send originals"
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Fooey. I don't wanna copy of my file. I want RevDisk's. And Obama's. =) Call me when that service becomes available.
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Fooey. I don't wanna copy of my file. I want RevDisk's. And Obama's. =) Call me when that service becomes available.
I have no clue why you'd want mine. I suspect 99% of my file is copies of my Army paperwork and a mound of junk from my clearance paperwork, along with copies of my relatives service or DMV records. If you've seen one DD214, you've seen em all. The only information in my file that might be of fascinating reading is any remarks made by my ex-girlfriends, many of whom were apparently interviewed for my TS clearance. I'd probably pay NOT to read said remarks, but they must not be too unflattering, as I got the clearance. I'm a very boring person, hell I just spent my evening making a locking metal box to hold charge for the coffee machine at work. Then I spent an hour reading EE textbooks.
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I'm a very boring person, hell I just spent my evening making a locking metal box to hold charge for the coffee machine at work. Then I spent an hour reading EE textbooks.
juicy! want moar!
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I'm a very boring person, hell I just spent my evening making a locking metal box to hold charge for the coffee machine at work. Then I spent an hour reading EE textbooks.
Ah, is the charge detonated when someone takes the last cup of coffee without making more?
=D
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Ah, is the charge detonated when someone takes the last cup of coffee without making more?
=D
I was thinking electric shock. :P
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metal box to hold charge
And we shall call it "capacitor."
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And we shall call it "capacitor."
Win. :D
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LOL...
Well played.
I just hope there isn't too much resistance to everyone paying their fair share for that coffee.
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I've always heard that coffee gives a jolt. =D
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juicy! want moar!
Ah, is the charge detonated when someone takes the last cup of coffee without making more?
=D
I was thinking electric shock. :P
And we shall call it "capacitor."
LOL...
Well played.
I just hope there isn't too much resistance to everyone paying their fair share for that coffee.
=D
You people are wrong in all the right ways.
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You people are wrong in all the right ways.
Any more talk like that & we'll admit we know you.
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resistance is futile!
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resistance is futile!
Only if less than 1 ohm
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Depends on the circuit.
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Before I request mine, I'm taking suggestions from this audience on how to make my file more interesting...... =D
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Get a C&R license and buy AimSurplus' entire firearm and ammo stock.
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Get a C&R license and buy AimSurplus' entire firearm and ammo stock.
If you had AIM's entire inventory, would you have any time leftover to care about your FBI file?
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Before I request mine, I'm taking suggestions from this audience on how to make my file more interesting...... =D
Get a C&R license and buy AimSurplus' entire firearm and ammo stock.
And a semi-truck full of ANFO.
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Before I request mine, I'm taking suggestions from this audience on how to make my file more interesting...... =D
Buy every Raven you can get your hands on at the same time.
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Buy every Raven you can get your hands on at the same time.
I though buying hand grenades was illegal.... =|
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At this point, I don't think you actually need to DO any of those things...simply participating in this thread will be enough. :police:
Oh, shi--- :O
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Thread Necromancy!
I fail at being interesting. =(
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Thread Necromancy!
I fail at being interesting. =(
Awww. I can pull some strings and get your file padded?
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i'm almost afraid to pull mine though for the most part i'm guilty by association
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Hey Nick, how much money did you send them "for duplication fees if any are assessed"? =D
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i'm almost afraid to pull mine though for the most part i'm guilty by association
That's probably what your associates are saying, too, ya know.
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I've had a TS and S clearance before, plus working for the .gov with all the background checks and stuff, I'd imagine I've got a file. Probably mundane..... [tinfoil]
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"No copy fees - send originals"
:laugh:
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I'm sure my FBI file is like RevDisk's and JJ's. The usual background interviews of relatives/neighbors for clearances. [Homer Simpson voice] BORING [/HSV]
Having spent time on the Inter-German Border, Berlin and prior to that some youthful protesting of the (then) Soviet Embassy in Washington in which we held up our driver's licences next to our faces for the KGB cameras....(BTW, I didn't outrun the Riot-gear leaden DC Police, I outran my fellow protestors ;) ), I would like to know what the Commie's had on me. They hope didn't make us wait at Checkpoint Alpha and Checkpoint Charlie for no good reason. I want to see ruthless pinko bastard effeciency !!!
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Concidering my va gun check comes back in under 5 minutes, it would probably be a page with my name and nothing else.