When backing Barack feels like joining a cult

[grislyatoms]

And he can cloud men's minds... 15 minutes in his presence, and they walk away, just slowly shaking their heads, muttering the direst of obscenities under their breath...

That's a different couple of folks hanging around these parts lately, actually...

[seeker_two]

And he can cloud men's minds... 15 minutes in his presence, and they walk away, just slowly shaking their heads, muttering the direst of obscenities under their breath...

I thought that was my job.....

[Bogie]

There is a Fork.

[Tecumseh]

It also feels that way with some of the GOP members.  Essentially they will only vote GOP.  No matter what.

[Manedwolf]

It also feels that way with some of the GOP members.  Essentially they will only vote GOP.  No matter what.

Yes? I want to keep my money, my guns, and my freedom to act without a nanny state, thanks.

I've not yet seen a Democrat that doesn't love taxes and hate guns in the hands of the common people.

[Tecumseh]

It also feels that way with some of the GOP members.  Essentially they will only vote GOP.  No matter what.

Yes? I want to keep my money, my guns, and my freedom to act without a nanny state, thanks.

I've not yet seen a Democrat that doesn't love taxes and hate guns in the hands of the common people.

  So which of the current GOP candidates, besides Ron Paul, is going to allow this? 

[Marnoot]

There is no spoon. 

The cake is a lie.

The Enrichment Center is required to remind you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake.

[MechAg94]

I was listening to Medved a little today.  He had several Obama supporters calling in.  It has been a while since I have heard people so long on hope yet short on details.  They claimed he was going to fix all the problems, but when Medved asked them how, they couldn't say. 

Now I just heard an Obama interview with a local guy in Houston.  He was asked if he would raise taxes.  He said he would raise taxes on the top 1% and lower them on people making 75K or lower.

[Manedwolf]

I was listening to Medved a little today.  He had several Obama supporters calling in.  It has been a while since I have heard people so long on hope yet short on details.  They claimed he was going to fix all the problems, but when Medved asked them how, they couldn't say. 

Now I just heard an Obama interview with a local guy in Houston.  He was asked if he would raise taxes.  He said he would raise taxes on the top 1% and lower them on people making 75K or lower.

Um. $75K is hardly a fortune in a lot of areas of the country, especially if you have a family! Northeast, SoCal, etc, that's just "Also can sometimes afford to eat meat for dinner."

It's just as I always say. Democrats, deep down, want a powerful elite watching over a population kept continually poor and on the public dole. They're easier to control that way. None of those uppity entrepreneurs trying to rise out of their class.

[MechAg94]

I didn't say 75K was a lot, but look at average incomes and it ain't too low either.  It is a lot more than my Dad ever made. 

I just wish they would be honest about what they are trying to do.  They are not taxing the rich.  The rich already have their millions in tax shelters and such.  More taxes won't affect them or at least won't affect their fortune.  They are really taxing people who are trying to get rich. 

As you said, rigging the system to keep the rich rich, and the poor poor. 

[longeyes]

In Addict Nation Mr Obama is the drug of choice this year.  We should have expected an Obama to come along.  It's time for all the people who live entirely by their emotions to get swept along by a shaman.  The reality is that there a lot of folks who truly shouldn't be voting.  They haven't a clue as to what citizenship constitutes; they know how to consume and not much else.

[Strings]

The question then becomes, longeyes, how do we decide who gets to vote and who doesn't? Let's face it: remove the right from one group, and you emplace the possibility of that right being taken from all...

[Perd Hapley]

The question then becomes, longeyes, how do we decide who gets to vote and who doesn't? Let's face it: remove the right from one group, and you emplace the possibility of that right being taken from all...

Down boy.  He didn't say they should be disenfranchised, he just said they shouldn't vote.  And he's right. 

Don't you agree? 

[Strings]

Sorry 'bout that: read it as "shouldn't be allowed"...

While there are HUGE blocks of people who I would rather didn't hit the polls on election day, I do NOT want to see a day where folks are kept away...

[Perd Hapley]

Oh, come on.  Not even weird folk like witches and girly-men in kilts and such?  We gots to have at least some standards. 

[Strings]

One day, fistful...

 I'm SOOO looking forward to next year's National. I mean, the river is just SOOOO handy!

[Balog]

One day, fistful...

 I'm SOOO looking forward to next year's National. I mean, the river is just SOOOO handy!

Just don't go all BrokenPa and set it on fire.

[Bogie]

Oh, and it's cold too...

Personally, I think that there needs to be a test, given in whatever language, with no time limit, to determine if the person actually knows enough about the issues at hand to vote. Get rid of the racists, the women who are voting for a candidate because he's "kinda cute," and the "walk in, and pull the straight ticket" lever folks.
 
REQUIRE people to think.
 
I'm guessing that it'd be possible to dumb all the issues down to 2nd/3rd grade reading level...

[longeyes]

This election more and more resembles a competition for high school president, which isn't surprising when you figure that way too many Americans seem to be permanent adolescents.

[ExSoldier]

It also feels that way with some of the GOP members.  Essentially they will only vote GOP.  No matter what.

Yes? I want to keep my money, my guns, and my freedom to act without a nanny state, thanks.

I've not yet seen a Democrat that doesn't love taxes and hate guns in the hands of the common people.

  So which of the current GOP candidates, besides Ron Paul, is going to allow this? 

Huckabee was the only Governor out of 50 to not only hold a CCW while in office he actually carried it, as well. Huckabee was very pointed in bringing up the 2nd Amendment during nearly every debate.  Huck may have some other views subject to argument, but I have no doubt he's pro-gun all the way.

[Manedwolf]

Something just on the news showed a very large group of people who had made Obama's name into a gospel-cadence chant.

Okay, now I'm officially freaked out at the cultlike stupidity of some Americans. 

[longeyes]

Obama has a good beat and you can dance to him.  I'd give him a 78.

[gunsmith]

I was beginning to think Obama was the anti Christ personally, but after careful retrospection I realize he is more like just a plain old Hitler.
Good thing is that Hillary has a corrupt machine in place that will stop him this time.

[Strings]

Hey Gunsmith! No stealing my viewpoint!

 Besides, you went on record earlier as saying he was the anti-christ...

[johnster999]

More golden words from Mrs. Obama:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/03/10/080310fa_fact_collins?currentPage=3

(Michelle) Obama begins with a broad assessment of life in America in 2008, and life is not good: were a divided country, were a country that is just downright mean, we are guided by fear, were a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents. We have become a nation of struggling folks who are barely making it every day, she said, as heads bobbed in the pews. Folks are just jammed up, and its gotten worse over my lifetime. And, doggone it, Im young. Forty-four!

No wonder she has trouble being proud of this mean country. Especially when you're jammed up and only Forty-four.