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Is necrophilia wrong?
« on: January 24, 2012, 12:26:42 PM »
Interesting article. I'd be interested in hearing from our atheist/libertarian/secular humanist type members on this point, as I agree that within a moral framework that holds 1. humans as nothing but matter in motion and 2. violation of contracts and initiation of force as the only moral wrongs there is no cogent argument against it.

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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 12:35:15 PM »
More importantly; is it disgusting? ;/ [tinfoil] [barf] :facepalm:
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2012, 12:43:48 PM »
I will admit that in my past, there have been times that I looked afterwards to see if there was a chalk outline around my partner.  Not a lot of sound and fury sometimes.
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2012, 12:44:04 PM »
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2012, 12:47:56 PM »
I will admit that in my past, there have been times that I looked afterwards to see if there was a chalk outline around my partner.  Not a lot of sound and fury sometimes.


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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 12:49:10 PM »
To whom does the body belong?  If you are the next of kin, then knock yourself out.  If you are a part-time mortuary worker getting your freak on with my Grandma, then I say anything you give to Grandma, Grandma gets to keep.
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2012, 12:58:10 PM »
As an atheist/libertarian, I see the body as property of the deceased, and of the executor of the deceased wishes.  If the deceased willed it  or the executor lets you.....go for it.  But *expletive deleted*ck, that's nasty.
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012, 01:50:18 PM »
the question of legality is beyond my ken.

I don't understand why it would be, but, uhhh... To each their own?  [barf]

I will say then anyone who wants to get it on with a corpse needs some serious mental help, stat.

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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 01:53:47 PM »
I don't know what is to be gained by it.  I mean if you want to have sex with something that just lays there buy a doll.
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 01:56:31 PM »


In Millcreek's defense, I hear his partner was English.

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Wanda: No. He's straight. He's kinda cute, too, in a pompous sort of way.                   

Otto: You got the hots for him?

Wanda: I'm not into necrophilia.           

Otto: What is this, Hump a Limey Week suddenly?
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 02:00:54 PM »
the question of legality is beyond my ken.

I'm not sure why you're asking your Ken doll about this.  =|


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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 02:08:21 PM »
I see the body as property of the deceased, and of the executor of the deceased wishes.  If the deceased willed it  or the executor lets you.....go for it.  But *expletive deleted*, that's nasty.

This.  

That said, I think that it would be hard for a necrophiliac to have an ample supply of willing "partners."  

I suppose there are some marketplace solutions to the supply issue, but it kinda gives me the creepy crawlies.  
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2012, 02:21:48 PM »
Legal/moral or not I'm more interested in the motivations of the perpetrator. I don't think someone that deviant belongs in polite society. We shoot dogs and bears that show a propensity to attack humans.

I mean is there any other human cure for a guy like this? Oh, I highly recommend finding the book on this, weird doesn't begin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Tanzler#Maria_Elena_Milagro_de_Hoyos
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2012, 02:23:52 PM »
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2012, 02:49:01 PM »
Legal/moral or not I'm more interested in the motivations of the perpetrator. I don't think someone that deviant belongs in polite society. We shoot dogs and bears that show a propensity to attack humans.

I mean is there any other human cure for a guy like this? Oh, I highly recommend finding the book on this, weird doesn't begin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Tanzler#Maria_Elena_Milagro_de_Hoyos

But who was harmed in the consensual act of porking a corpse? If the sicko gets someone to will them their body post-mortem, and its all consensual....?  Consenting LIVING adults do some *expletive deleted*ed up things to each other and we don't shoot them on sight.  Maybe someone thinkgs you and your wife enjoy too many positions.  Deviant!
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2012, 03:01:31 PM »
I don't know what is to be gained by it.  I mean if you want to have sex with something that just lays there buy a doll.
Or a wife
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2012, 03:02:54 PM »
Or a wife

You have sex with your wife?
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2012, 04:19:47 PM »
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2012, 04:46:56 PM »
I admire the willingn ess of the board members to follow their ideas through to their logical conclusion. I really do. It takes far more honesty than many people have these days. I think the leap made in the "If you support anti-necrophilia laws it's only a matter of time before the .gov throws you in jail for trying anal with your wife!!!!" type statements is a bit silly, but overall I'd say the libertarians on the board are very consistent with their beliefs.

That being said, I (just me personally now) think that if you find your line of argumentation leading to the ideal state being one where it is acceptable to bone your grandma's corpse (or sell it to someone down the street to do that to) then I perhaps think it might be time for a re-examination of your political views. But that's just me.
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2012, 04:59:36 PM »
I admire the willingn ess of the board members to follow their ideas through to their logical conclusion. I really do. It takes far more honesty than many people have these days. I think the leap made in the "If you support anti-necrophilia laws it's only a matter of time before the .gov throws you in jail for trying anal with your wife!!!!" type statements is a bit silly, but overall I'd say the libertarians on the board are very consistent with their beliefs.

That being said, I (just me personally now) think that if you find your line of argumentation leading to the ideal state being one where it is acceptable to bone your grandma's corpse (or sell it to someone down the street to do that to) then I perhaps think it might be time for a re-examination of your political views. But that's just me.

Look, if we take out the moral judgement and look at it logically, then, well, it's not hurting anyone but (we presume, or at least I presume) the person doing the humping.
Which leads to the usually libertarian/wicca stance of "do what you will as long as you don't hurt someone else".
By that logic, with the previously gain consent of the deseased or the consent of those who had a relasionship with the deseased, I guess it shouldn't be illeagle.

On the other hand, since the few folks on this planet who like banging dead people are so few and far between AND have some serious mental issues, I am more then cool with leaving this particular taboo illeagal, along with consesual insest and probably a few other things that I am too innocent to think people would actually do.

Cause its ewwy.
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2012, 04:59:51 PM »
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2012, 05:00:57 PM »
At least, don't pass out.   ;)

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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2012, 05:02:40 PM »
I admire the willingn ess of the board members to follow their ideas through to their logical conclusion. I really do. It takes far more honesty than many people have these days. I think the leap made in the "If you support anti-necrophilia laws it's only a matter of time before the .gov throws you in jail for trying anal with your wife!!!!" type statements is a bit silly, but overall I'd say the libertarians on the board are very consistent with their beliefs.

That being said, I (just me personally now) think that if you find your line of argumentation leading to the ideal state being one where it is acceptable to bone your grandma's corpse (or sell it to someone down the street to do that to) then I perhaps think it might be time for a re-examination of your political views. But that's just me.

I'm glad you claim the moral high ground over those around you.  I submit to your all-moralness. Please tell me how to think for myself.
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Re: Is necrophilia wrong?
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2012, 05:04:00 PM »
This is starting to smell like polyticks.

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