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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2014, 06:14:44 PM »
Listening late last night to some radio show interviewing a doc involved in medical aspects of dangerous bugs.  A few factoids were presented which cause for pause.  Victims were transported to US with minimal isolation.  The guy said eboli deserves a level 4 containment.  The only portable level 4 facilities are found in the US Navy.  Then there is the matter of CDC sending the victims to Emory hospital where they are put up in level 2 isolation.  He asked a simple rhetorical question.  If eboli is spread via bodily fluids, what is Emory going to do with the victims urine and feces.  Flush it down the sewer?  This guy was beside himself with the evident stupidity of what was going on.  I've seen no confirmation of claims by the doc being interviewed.  Matter of fact I've seen nothing of background information on the technology of isolation.
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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2014, 06:18:20 PM »
Guy in mt sinai isolation being tested for ebola right now


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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2014, 06:21:31 PM »
Heres a lil bout what they do at emory

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-doctors-20140803-story.html

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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2014, 06:21:38 PM »
Guy in mt sinai isolation being tested for ebola right now


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http://7online.com/health/mount-sinai-patient-tested-for-ebola-virus/239663/

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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2014, 06:26:50 PM »
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2014, 06:28:56 PM »
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2014, 06:32:31 PM »
I agree with you, but I'd still rather not knowingly import a bug that we haven't yet figured out how to deal with.

I'd be more worried about the multi-spectrum drug resistant TB flooding across the border via "undocumented child refugee" MS-13 members.
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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2014, 06:34:19 PM »
This may be a practice run on treating and containing it under ideal first world conditions.

Hope they have all their ducks in a row regarding containment. All the stories about this being a possible airborne mutation make it sound especially risky.

About as credible as "all those stories" about the cattle cars and FEMA death camps. It's hit what, 1200ish people in 6 months? If it was airborne it'd be way more than that.
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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2014, 07:05:47 PM »
Cdc stuff
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/5/2/pdfs/99-0208.pdf


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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2014, 07:17:38 PM »
And now they are testing a guy in NY who just got home from West Africa and has developed symptoms consistent with the opening rounds of Ebola. Yay.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/08/04/new-york-city-hospital-testing-patient-for-possible-ebola-infection/?cmpid=cmty_twitter_fn
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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2014, 07:27:58 PM »
Eboli's MSDS sheet
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php

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CONTAINMENT REQUIREMENTS: Containment Level 4 facilities, equipment, and operational practices for work involving infectious or potentially infectious materials, animals, and cultures.

Most references to portable units I've seen refer to single use cells, drapes, bubbles, etc.
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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2014, 07:31:18 PM »
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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2014, 08:32:33 PM »
Samaritan's Purse 2012 FY revenue was around $376 million. Ninety percent went to programs.  Hundred and fifty gees isn't that big a chunk. http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4423#.U-AkZ_ldV8E

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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2014, 08:46:17 PM »
Michael Savage (PhD epidemiology) weighs in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ier14T9ABqo
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Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2014, 09:16:25 PM »
When and where did he get that PhD? It's not listed anywhere I found

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Savage
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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2014, 09:20:19 PM »
http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/about-michael-savage/
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epidemiology

http://www.thesavagemichael.com/biography.html
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He earned a Ph.D. in Nutritional Ethnomedicine from the University of California, Berkeley, 1978.  His dissertation was on “Nutritional Ethnomedicine in Fiji.”

I'm pretty sure he has a PhD.  Too easy to disprove.  Now the question becomes the nature of the PhD.

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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2014, 09:24:53 PM »
And while savage sounds good his statement about cholera are specious http://www.who.int/gho/epidemic_diseases/cholera/cases_deaths/en/
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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2014, 09:37:55 PM »
http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/about-michael-savage/
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http://www.thesavagemichael.com/biography.html
I'm pretty sure he has a PhD.  Too easy to disprove.  Now the question becomes the nature of the PhD.

Berkley says his PhDs is not epidemiology.  It agrees with the wiki entry
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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2014, 09:41:15 PM »
A search fails to show any references to cholera in the border invasion. Other than savages.
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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2014, 10:36:50 PM »
They were treated with an unapproved experimental drug in Africa and were allowed to return due to the miraculous seeming recovery they are experiencing.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/04/health/experimental-ebola-serum/
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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2014, 08:59:26 AM »
That explains him walking from the ambulance. I was surprised to see that
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Re: Let the Hateful Ebola Doc Die
« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2014, 09:05:59 AM »
An article about experimental drugs with info about the one used to treat the US health workers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/09/health/in-ebola-outbreak-who-should-get-experimental-drug.html
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