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Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« on: March 12, 2015, 06:18:57 AM »
Getting ugly in Ferguson again,   2 cops shot outside the police station


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/03/12/2-police-officers-reported-shot-outside-ferguson-police-department/

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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2015, 07:42:37 AM »
A guy that works in the area said just a few days ago that things were getting worse there. Now this comes after the DOJ ripped them, and just a matter of hours after the police chief announced his resignation. Gee, that really calmed tensions, didn't it?

I knew it would be a bad idea to encourage the mob to believe that its previous violence was getting them what they wanted. They obviously smelled the blood in the water last night.

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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2015, 08:10:37 AM »
Blood on Eric Holder's (and, by extension, President Obama's) hands.

They want racial tension. And now they have created strife.
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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2015, 08:28:10 AM »
Blood on Eric Holder's (and, by extension, President Obama's) hands.

They want racial tension. And now they have created strife.

Stop blaming the fan for fanning the flames that were already there.

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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2015, 08:37:20 AM »
Stop blaming the fan for fanning the flames that were already there.

stay safe.

That would be fine if their allies hadn't been stoking these flames for the past 30+ years. They may only be the latest in a long line of racial hucksters, but that does not absolve them of the guilt of this crime.
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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2015, 10:18:54 AM »
Holder just couldn't leave well enough alone.  He had to justify the riots, stoke more racial strife, by inventing racism charges against the Ferguson PD.  And now two innocent men are dead because of it.

I agree with Mak.  Holder has blood on his hands.

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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2015, 10:35:07 AM »
Holder just couldn't leave well enough alone.  He had to justify the riots, stoke more racial strife, by inventing racism charges against the Ferguson PD.  And now two innocent men are dead because of it.

I agree with Mak.  Holder has blood on his hands.

For clarity, the officers are not dead, just gravely wounded. One was shot in that face and the other the shoulder.

Doesn't change who bears responsibility for encouraging this, though.
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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2015, 10:42:34 AM »
My mistake.  When I heard about it on the radio I thought they said the officers were shot and killed.  That's encouraging, I hope they recover.  

Nobody deserves to die because some scumbag politician was trying to score points.

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Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2015, 11:08:59 AM »
Cops should take a vacation. All of em
Lucky they didn't return fire


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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2015, 11:41:57 AM »
The city govt takes much of the blame I think because they have not prosecuted people for misbehaving and telegraphed that they were not planning to prosecute anyone.  Give someone a free yard and don't be surprised if they try to take a mile.
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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2015, 11:59:28 AM »
I don't necessarily trust news sources on either side of this issue to know who to believe regarding the behavior of this police department. Even so, whether they are good cops or bad cops, it is clear to me that Holder drew a target on all of them, all for an agenda.
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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2015, 12:11:39 PM »
Cops should take a vacation. All of em
Lucky they didn't return fire


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It sounds like they were shot from quite a distance- I'm surprise the word 'sniper' hasn't been bandied around by the media yet. It also sounds like the cops were protecting the good people from the thug protesters, having them take a vacation is a no-go. Other than that, I agree with your sentiment 100%.
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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2015, 12:14:47 PM »
The good people might need to stand up and bark. Get rid of the thugs themselves


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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2015, 01:07:49 PM »
The good people might need to stand up and bark. Get rid of the thugs themselves




I think they have tried but the problem is they get out numbered and out barked.
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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2015, 01:22:19 PM »
I don't necessarily trust news sources on either side of this issue to know who to believe regarding the behavior of this police department. Even so, whether they are good cops or bad cops, it is clear to me that Holder drew a target on all of them, all for an agenda.

Ferguson PD's treatement of its black population is bog-standard.  Neither especially targeted nor coddled.

http://www.unz.com/isteve/blackwhite-arrest-ratios-ferguson-is-averageville-usa/



Steve Sailer has a series of posts examining the data behind black/white arrest rates across the country, to include honing in on cities.

For instance, the disparity of black/white arrest rates in leftist utopia Madison, WI is over 3x that found in Ferguson. 

http://www.unz.com/isteve/everywhere-is-guilty-the-justice-dept-jihad-against-ferguson-in-statistical-perspective/



http://www.unz.com/isteve/arrest-rates-ferguson-v-peoples-republic-of-santa-monica-ca/

http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-atlantic-madison-wisconsin-is-not-ferguson-missouri/

There are more if you are interested.

Matter of fact, libertopias tend to have MUCH greater B/W arrest ratio disparity.  To see why:
http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/prison.htm

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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2015, 01:27:49 PM »
I just heard some self-professed expert on CNN talking about the fact that the cops supposedly think the shooter used a pistol because of cartridge cases found at the scene, and how he must be an expert shot to hit the cops at 125 yards. Apparently this guy has never heard of pistol caliber carbines.
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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2015, 01:33:17 PM »
I don't necessarily trust news sources on either side of this issue to know who to believe regarding the behavior of this police department. Even so, whether they are good cops or bad cops, it is clear to me that Holder drew a target on all of them, all for an agenda.

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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2015, 02:00:23 PM »
I just heard some self-professed expert on CNN talking about the fact that the cops supposedly think the shooter used a pistol because of cartridge cases found at the scene, and how he must be an expert shot to hit the cops at 125 yards. Apparently this guy has never heard of pistol caliber carbines.
Also, might have just been shooting at the group and happened to make two hits.  I never heard how many shots were taken.
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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2015, 02:17:36 PM »
I just hope it wasn't M855s from a pistol: here we go again.
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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2015, 02:33:52 PM »
Thanks for the links roo_ster and fistful. Interesting data to compare and contrast to the talk of the MSM talking heads. It makes Holder's statements that much more weighted to an overall agenda.
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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2015, 06:08:06 PM »
Also, might have just been shooting at the group and happened to make two hits.  I never heard how many shots were taken.


From the Post-Dispatch's reporting, they heard four shots being fired. I haven't yet heard how many casings they found.
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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2015, 07:48:25 PM »
For clarity, the officers are not dead, just gravely wounded. One was shot in that face and the other the shoulder.

Doesn't change who bears responsibility for encouraging this, though.

To be fair, two innocent men were killed and their blood should be on Holder.  Remember the two cops gunned down in NYC?  And why they were gunned down?

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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2015, 08:04:50 PM »
So...all that is happened is Holder's fault?  While I am sure he (Holder) is guilty of flaming much of this, it is not all on him.

I believe some of the anger there and nation wide has to do with *expletive deleted*it like this:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/03/12/officer-pulls-elderly-couple-over-for-window-tint-then-things-suddenly-take-a-dramatic-turn/

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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2015, 06:52:04 AM »
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Tharp, however, said the experience has left a bitter taste in his mouth.

“I tell you what, I respect the law less today than I did before,” he said.

69 year old man saying this, should say a lot.
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Re: Ferguson getting hot again , 2 cops shot.
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2015, 07:51:34 AM »
So...all that is happened is Holder's fault?  While I am sure he (Holder) is guilty of flaming much of this, it is not all on him.

I believe some of the anger there and nation wide has to do with *expletive deleted*it like this:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/03/12/officer-pulls-elderly-couple-over-for-window-tint-then-things-suddenly-take-a-dramatic-turn/


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I don't think anyone's saying that Holder was on that grassy knoll in Ferguson, pulling the trigger, just like no one's saying that Holder torched the Quiktrip, or made Ferguson PD screw up on their initial handling of the case. Still, he and his office did what they did, and should share the blame.

I don't know that Holder is the one most responsible for pressuring Jackson to resign, but whoever did is also responsible, to my mind. I find it more than a coincidence that police were attacked directly after their leader stepped down.
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