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Title: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: 230RN on July 08, 2020, 07:25:32 AM
Relative humidity will be 7% this afternoon between 4 and 6PM MDT.

Seems like you'd have to drive half a mile 'til you bumped into a water molecule.

I remember getting lecture cylinders of CO2 labeled as being "Bone Dry."  I always thought that was funny, but it actually was a legitimate technically descriptive term.

Temp will be between 94 and 95 degrees in that time frame.

And the wind will puff up to about 20 MPH.  Ought to mummify pets and other small critters if you don't watch their water supply.

I was told that humidity that low used to make old furniture fall apart or start creaking badly because the animal glue would dry out.

According to TV programs I've seen, a lot of modern things are put together with modern glue.

Kind of makes me wonder how modern glues would fare... would  your car fall apart?  Will your aeroplane start creaking and getting loose in the joints?

Kind of makes your eyeballs feel gritty.

And nose-pickin'.  Don't get me started on nose-pickin'.

Does it affect musical instrument tuning?  Seems it ought to.

Well, at least your guns are less likely to rust.

"It's not the heat, it's the humidity."  Screw you... it's gonna be friggen' hot.

Current for when you click on it:

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=39.7836&lon=-105.1675&unit=0&lg=english&FcstType=graphical

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: K Frame on July 08, 2020, 07:33:09 AM
It's a freaking swamp, here.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: 230RN on July 08, 2020, 07:48:43 AM
"Freaking swamp."

Is that a legitimate technically descriptive term?

Numbers, man... numbers.

"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely, in your thoughts, advanced to the stage of science." ― Lord Kelvin

=D
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Fly320s on July 08, 2020, 08:00:15 AM
95 and dry sounds nice. 
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: dogmush on July 08, 2020, 08:03:37 AM
"Freaking swamp."

Is that a legitimate technically descriptive term?

Numbers, man... numbers.

"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely, in your thoughts, advanced to the stage of science." ― Lord Kelvin

=D


My house is forecast for a high of 93 and 72% humidity today.  Freaking Swamp is an accurate enough term.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: 230RN on July 08, 2020, 08:12:26 AM
Oh, I agree.  I just like quoting K and I was always amused at that "Bone Dry" spec.

Last vestige of moisture leaving Colorado by the northeast corner just before dawn this AM.  Light blobs top to bottom --Fort Collins-Greeley area; Boulder-Denver-Longmont area; Colorado Springs area; Pueblo area; tiny point off to the northwest of that is Canyon City, I think.

I wish Colorado's surfeit of Libcoms would follow those clouds.

(Couldn't resist the snark.)

Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Ben on July 08, 2020, 08:19:09 AM
95 and dry isn't too bad. I was talking to my dad this week and they've had 100+ for days and days in Central Cali. I used to hate that when I lived there, because the days also started out warm (often in the low 70s) so you were triple digits by noon. When it gets to the 90s here, it's not till like 4-5PM and humidity is usually in the 20s, and we still drop into the high 50s at night, which is nice.

Guess it's all about what you're accustomed to. People here complain all the time during the 30 or so days a year we get over 90 (God forbid we get 2-3 days that breach 100), but I consider it mild compared to where I have lived before, and will absolutely take the heat here, or even back in CA with low humidity over East coast heat+humidity.

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Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: MechAg94 on July 08, 2020, 08:35:32 AM
I live on the Texas Gulf Coast.  I didn't know humidity went that low. 
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Brad Johnson on July 08, 2020, 09:33:23 AM
95 and dry with a light breeze is considered a pretty summer day in Lubbock. Forecast for Saturday-Monday is 105-108 deg F with a dry southwest wind. Red Flag fire weather for sure.

Luckily we'll be in Woodland Park, CO, where it's supposed to be 85 and partly cloudy with a slight breeze and a chance of afternoon showers.  =D

Brad
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Ben on July 08, 2020, 09:39:40 AM
95 and dry with a light breeze is considered a pretty summer day in Lubbock. Forecast for Saturday-Monday is 105-108 deg F with a dry southwest wind.


A funny aside on what is considered hot or not: I get my weather from weather.gov. Where my dad lives, you only get the "sky on fire hot" graphic on days that break 100. Here you get it on days that break 90. On the other hand, around the end of SEP, the weather service here gives like one or two warnings about hard freezes, then gives a little blurb about, "This is your last warning. It's gonna freeze every night, so get use to it." Where my dad is, they'll start announcing a single day of potential hard freeze days in advance with all kinds of ZOMG! warnings.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Brad Johnson on July 08, 2020, 09:41:12 AM
I live on the Texas Gulf Coast.  I didn't know humidity went that low. 

A couple years back we had a day that hit 112 and the RH was 1%. You didn't have to worry about drying off after showering.

Brad
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Nick1911 on July 08, 2020, 10:03:29 AM
I was in colorado for the holiday.

The weather was wonderful.  In Kansas City our dewpoints have been hovering around 70F.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: K Frame on July 08, 2020, 11:04:23 AM
"Is that a legitimate technically descriptive term?"

If you live in metro Washington, DC, yes it is.


Right now it's 86 with 59% relative humidity, which is kind of dry for this area.


There's a reason why, in the days before air conditioning became common, that many European nations considered a diplomatic posting to Washington, DC, to be a tropical posting.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: grampster on July 08, 2020, 12:58:47 PM
We've been in the mid 90's here in W. Michigan with humidity btwn 50-60%.  It's not pleasant outside.  But I'm not complaining because of our 9 months of winter and no sun.  I think my electric bill will be in the mid $200s.  But my gas bill will be negligible...so it balances out.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 08, 2020, 01:20:44 PM
Current conditions:

90° RealFeel® 102°
UV Index: 10 Very High
Wind: S at 6 mph
Wind Gusts: 8 mph
Humidity: 62%
Dew Point: 75° F
Pressure: 29.95 inHg
Cloud Cover: 32%
Visibility: 20 mi
Indoor Humidity: 62% (Extremely Humid)
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: K Frame on July 08, 2020, 01:56:18 PM
Humidity is actually dropping into the 40s here. It might be halfway pleasant in the shade this evening.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: kgbsquirrel on July 08, 2020, 02:51:50 PM
I've experienced 141° with no humidity and 115° with all of it.  Both can stuff it.  :P
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Angel Eyes on July 08, 2020, 02:53:45 PM
Where was the temp 141°?  Just curious.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Nick1911 on July 08, 2020, 02:54:07 PM
Current conditions:

90° RealFeel® 102°
UV Index: 10 Very High
Wind: S at 6 mph
Wind Gusts: 8 mph
Humidity: 62%
Dew Point: 75° F
Pressure: 29.95 inHg
Cloud Cover: 32%
Visibility: 20 mi
Indoor Humidity: 62% (Extremely Humid)

That's pretty nasty.  A dewpoint of 75 is absolutely miserable.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Nick1911 on July 08, 2020, 03:03:45 PM
Humidity is actually dropping into the 40s here. It might be halfway pleasant in the shade this evening.

I wouldn't count on it. 

Humidity is only subsiding very slightly, the drop in RH is due mostly to dry bulb temperatures increasing.  I don't know exactly where you are but the Dp looks to still be 70+ in the DC region this evening.

Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: kgbsquirrel on July 08, 2020, 03:16:52 PM
Where was the temp 141°?  Just curious.


HMMWV.  Kuwaiti desert.  July.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 08, 2020, 04:28:39 PM
That's pretty nasty.  A dewpoint of 75 is absolutely miserable.

Yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: K Frame on July 08, 2020, 04:30:11 PM
I wouldn't count on it. 

Humidity is only subsiding very slightly, the drop in RH is due mostly to dry bulb temperatures increasing.  I don't know exactly where you are but the Dp looks to still be 70+ in the DC region this evening.



Yeah, I just went out for a smoke... It's not going to be pleasant. Humidity level is increasing, as is the overall temperature. I'm in Fairfax/Oakton right now.

And, where I was thinking about walking Seren this evening is a park trail beside a creek, with lots of surrounding swampy ground, and full ground and sky cover, meaning the humidity levels there are a LOT higher. We walked there last night and yeah, it was humid as balls, but it was relatively temperate feeling.

Right now? No. Nasty.

She got a longer walk early this morning, she'll get a relatively short walk when we get home this evening, and we'll do our longer evening walk (which we usually do when we get home and before dinner) after dinner when the sun goes down.


Monday when I was coming home from a friend's place it was swampy balls humid, and I had a very interesting thing happen...

I was running on I-95 with full AC for quite awhile (gotta keep Seren comfortable). I rolled down my window to knock the coal off the end of my cigarette and when I stuck my arm out the window to do so, I actually had water condensing on my arm. Never had that happen before.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: 230RN on July 08, 2020, 05:41:32 PM
I live on the Texas Gulf Coast.  I didn't know humidity went that low. 

As I said, don't get me started on the nose-pickin'.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: French G. on July 08, 2020, 05:46:19 PM
I would take the dry heat. Kinda swampy here and I have been welding 3/4" aluminum plate so I am spending a good bit of the day in a hooded sweatshirt because that is cooler than standing next to the handheld sun without it.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: 230RN on July 08, 2020, 09:37:05 PM
Yeah, I just went out for a smoke... It's not going to be pleasant. Humidity level is increasing, as is the overall temperature. I'm in Fairfax/Oakton right now.
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Monday when I was coming home from a friend's place it was swampy balls humid, and I had a very interesting thing happen...

I was running on I-95 with full AC for quite awhile (gotta keep Seren comfortable). I rolled down my window to knock the coal off the end of my cigarette and when I stuck my arm out the window to do so, I actually had water condensing on my arm. Never had that happen before.

Wow. that sure made my sphincters shrink.  Fire danger is extreme here right now, so it kinda triggered me.  I'm sure it was perfectly acceptable for DC and its environs, though, right? 
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Jim147 on July 08, 2020, 09:51:18 PM
Last week here heat index was 115-120 I had it about 78 in the cabin and when I walked out my glasses fogged.

Supposed to stay in the 80's tomorrow but humugity is going to be 90%+

Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: just Warren on July 09, 2020, 12:32:38 AM
Quote
Hotter'n hell and bone dry.

That's what grandpa said about grandma just moments before his unexpected trip to the hospital.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: K Frame on July 09, 2020, 07:28:59 AM
Wow. that sure made my sphincters shrink.  Fire danger is extreme here right now, so it kinda triggered me.  I'm sure it was perfectly acceptable for DC and its environs, though, right? 

Acceptable? Probably not. I don't toss the whole butt out the window anymore. Used to do that. If there were a fire danger I wouldn't do it.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: K Frame on July 09, 2020, 07:31:26 AM
I wouldn't count on it. 

Humidity is only subsiding very slightly, the drop in RH is due mostly to dry bulb temperatures increasing.  I don't know exactly where you are but the Dp looks to still be 70+ in the DC region this evening.



Actually, by the time I left work around 5:45 the humidity had gone back down into the low 40s. It wasn't dry, but it was a LOT more pleasant than I thought it was going to be and Seren and I had a very nice walk after I picked her up.

This morning it's quite humid, pushing 100%, but that's common... Yep, right now, 72 degrees and 97% humidity.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Larry Ashcraft on July 09, 2020, 11:34:23 AM
High here yesterday was 102, with 15% humidity.  Supposed to be in the triple digits for the next six days.  Nice thing about the high plains though, it is usually in the high 50s at sunrise.

We've been working in the garden in the mornings, and we're about caught up, so we're going to do the retired thing this morning and drive up to Cuchara for lunch at the Dog Bar and Grill and wander around for a while looking in the little shops.  Neat little tourist town about 1.5 hours away, and it's at 8,500 feet, so nice and cool.  We're at 4,800 feet, considered "the lowlands" in Colorado.

https://www.dogbarandgrill.com/
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Ben on July 09, 2020, 11:44:32 AM


We've been working in the garden in the mornings, and we're about caught up, so we're going to do the retired thing this morning and drive up to Cuchara for lunch at the Dog Bar and Grill and wander around for a while looking in the little shops.  Neat little tourist town about 1.5 hours away, and it's at 8,500 feet, so nice and cool.  We're at 4,800 feet, considered "the lowlands" in Colorado.

https://www.dogbarandgrill.com/

There's a lot of places like that around here that I want to visit to escape the Summer heat, but between the late rains keeping me busy with weed control, and the virus postponing contractors coming out to do some stuff for me, I haven't had a chance to. Finally getting all that stuff wrapped up now, so hoping to do an early start day hike to a lake, then a late lunch at a roadhouse on the way home one day next week.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: K Frame on July 09, 2020, 01:11:03 PM
I certainly hope that they allow Steve to accompany you for lunch at the roadhouse.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Ben on July 09, 2020, 01:28:30 PM
I certainly hope that they allow Steve to accompany you for lunch at the roadhouse.

I certainly hope he behaves himself if they do.  :laugh:

The group training I took him to was run by a gal who works at a restaurant as her day job, and she had me bring him by there last week as a test run on their patio. He did good for most of it, but I just haven't been able to break him of that "first five minutes and I've got to let everyone know I'm here" thing. I'm hoping he grows out of that soon.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Larry Ashcraft on July 09, 2020, 04:54:56 PM
Well, it was in the mid-eighties in Cuchara too.  Not as hot as here though...  We'll probably go back up there the first Saturday of October for the La Veta Oktoberfest.  We drive to Trinidad and get on Hwy 12 "The Highway of Legends", and hope to see some color in the aspens.  Then. stop for lunch at The Dog, then another 11 miles down the hill to La Veta.  Usually it's a beautiful day, but it can be cold.

And Ben, pups are welcome at The Dog, but only out on the patio.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: grampster on July 09, 2020, 05:01:59 PM
We finally got a nice hour long rain here today.  Temp dropped from 93 degrees down to around 80.  I was tempted to strip nekkid and run through the mud puddles but Swmbo wouldn't let me.
Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: lupinus on July 09, 2020, 05:10:39 PM
It's currently 92 with 52% humidity. It's hot.

If you too would like to experience SC in July but from afar take a hot shower and put your clothes on without drying off

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Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 09, 2020, 05:14:19 PM
We've had temps in the low-mid 90s and humidity this week (St Louis area), and they're predicting high 90s next week. People are complaining, like they do every year, as if they're surprised that summer is unreasonably hot in this part of the world.

This is what they said they were looking forward to, six months ago.

 ???
Title: Re: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: lupinus on July 09, 2020, 05:15:41 PM
A funny aside on what is considered hot or not: I get my weather from weather.gov. Where my dad lives, you only get the "sky on fire hot" graphic on days that break 100. Here you get it on days that break 90. On the other hand, around the end of SEP, the weather service here gives like one or two warnings about hard freezes, then gives a little blurb about, "This is your last warning. It's gonna freeze every night, so get use to it." Where my dad is, they'll start announcing a single day of potential hard freeze days in advance with all kinds of ZOMG! warnings.  :laugh:
I think a big part of that is what's normal, people are used to and know how to handle, and what they're equipped to handle. Snows a big example. I'm from NJ and my first winter or two down here were a massive shock. Snows I wouldn't think twice of going about my day in when I lived in NJ or PA shut this place DOWN. But they also don't have the infrastructure/expertise to deal with it and people haven't the foggiest idea how to drive in it. Same with temp. We get the occasional cold spell the houses I dilation and heating simply can't deal with. Whereas in many areas, a summer spell that no one here would think twice of isn't usually pretty in other areas.

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Title: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: WLJ on July 09, 2020, 05:22:05 PM
It's currently 92 with 52% humidity. It's hot.

If you too would like to experience SC in July but from afar take a hot shower and put your clothes on without drying off

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95 76% here in Louisville. Sort of normal here
Title: Re: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: lupinus on July 09, 2020, 05:29:22 PM
95 76% here in Louisville. Sort of normal here
Aye. To be fair it's a bit dry

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Title: Re: Re: Hotter'n hell and bone dry.
Post by: Ben on July 09, 2020, 05:35:54 PM
I think a big part of that is what's normal, people are used to and know how to handle, and what they're equipped to handle. Snows a big example. I'm from NJ and my first winter or two down here were a massive shock. Snows I wouldn't think twice of going about my day in when I lived in NJ or PA shut this place DOWN. But they also don't have the infrastructure/expertise to deal with it and people haven't the foggiest idea how to drive in it. Same with temp. We get the occasional cold spell the houses I dilation and heating simply can't deal with. Whereas in many areas, a summer spell that no one here would think twice of isn't usually pretty in other areas.

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Yeah, just think about whenever it was that Europe had that heat wave and all those elderly people in France died. I'm not even sure if it broke 100, but they were in buildings with no AC and not designed to circulate air, plus not being acclimated to it. I actually just ran to wiki while typing. It was AUG03 and did hit up to 105 a few days, Most though, were in the high 90s.

Not long ago I posted about how proud I was of myself this last Winter about acclimating to Idaho and going to the grocery store in like a long sleeved T or similar when it was 15deg or so. Then as I walked into the store, a guy was walking out in shorts and flip flops.  :laugh:

In my defense, he weighed like 400lbs, so he was already somewhat insulated. Still though.