Socialist advocates murder of people who oppose barry’s “public option”

[Jamisjockey]

It's an interesting phenomenon, how people can be outraged that some members of the public might want to take public funds to pay for healthcare, but end up fairly complacent that large corporations took more than that amount and tried to pay out massive bonuses to their executives with the money.

If you want to dismantle the welfare state, you should start with the biggest welfare queens on the planet: large corporations and their executives.  Letting that kind of socialism go on and then turning red-faced over public healthcare is a good way to re-popularize socialism a la European welfare states.

You'll be hard pressed to find anyone on this board that thought the corporate bailots and corpate welfare are a good thing.

[MechAg94]

It's an interesting phenomenon, how people can be outraged that some members of the public might want to take public funds to pay for healthcare, but end up fairly complacent that large corporations took more than that amount and tried to pay out massive bonuses to their executives with the money.

If you want to dismantle the welfare state, you should start with the biggest welfare queens on the planet: large corporations and their executives.  Letting that kind of socialism go on and then turning red-faced over public healthcare is a good way to re-popularize socialism a la European welfare states.

It was only a half-hearted thread jack SS.  You can do better than that.  :)

[taurusowner]

It was only a half-hearted thread jack SS.  You can do better than that.  :)

It is early in the morning, I'm sure he's just getting warmed up.

[De Selby]

Comparing this instance of socialism to others is not threadjack. 

Yes, most people didn't like the bailout - but there was hardly the outrage, and there is hardly the lasting contempt for major corporations and their boards, that there is for say, ACORN or other public health care advocates.  Which is ironic, considering that the lion's share of welfare goes to corporations and wealthy individuals.

A trillion dollars in corporate welfare gets the modern American right annoyed, but the idea of paying for people's medicine gets them downright outraged.  This feature of the free-market right is not helpful, as eventually people will decide that because it's alright for corporations to get public money, they ought to get a slice as well.

[MicroBalrog]

(CNN) -- Armed with signs reading "no taxation without deliberation" and "stop bankrupting America," tens of thousands of people spent national tax day at organized "tea party" demonstrations across the country, protesting what some view as excessive government spending and bailouts.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/15/tea.parties/

On January 22, the Boston Tea Party National Committee (BTPNC) passed a resolution supporting the February 1st 2009 Tea Party. The Tea Party effort originated at Market-Ticker.org, where Karl Denninger wrote, “It is time for We The People to send a strong message to Washington DC – no more. No more loading our children and grandchildren with debt. No more bailing out speculators and bankers who made bets they knew were unsafe at the time. No more bailing out people who came to Congress to demand the removal of leverage limits, got what they asked for, then blew themselves up with the very leverage they demanded to be able to use.”

http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/01/boston-tea-party-calls-for-bailout-tea-party/

Robert Baehr, 42, of Evans City, who organized the Tea Party, said he was prompted by the government's bailout of failing banks and corporations."

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And, finally: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiCOb49vVVM

[mtnbkr]

I find it amusing you guys let yourselves get all bitched up over a slashdotter.  Hyperbole is the rule of the day over there and members have advocated violence for less (ie OS choice) while denouncing others for their participation in nonviolent activities (I myself was accused of being a violent person because I collected knives).

Chances are, the slashdotter in question spends more time in his parents' basement than the Christmas decorations.

Chris
Member of the /. 4 Digit UID Club: 8981

[taurusowner]

Hyperbole is the rule of the day over there and members have advocated violence for less (ie OS choice) while denouncing others for their participation in nonviolent activities (I myself was accused of being a violent person because I collected knives).

Try Fark or 4chan.  You need body armor to browse some threads on those sites.  But I'm sure you already know that 

[Silver Bullet]

I find it amusing you guys let yourselves get all bitched up over a slashdotter. 

I find it disturbing as part of a larger trend.  When I was growing up, people had different opinions but they would consider it evil to even think of suppressing someone else’s rights to speak.

Now I see whackos who will do exactly that, and come up with really contorted rationalization for doing so.  First it was “hate speech” and “racism,” more recently it is “take away their right to vote because they are obviously unqualified and insufficiently educated,” and now someone is trying to justify murder by calling it self defense.   

[mtnbkr]

I find it disturbing as part of a larger trend.  When I was growing up, people had different opinions but they would consider it evil to even think of suppressing someone else’s rights to speak.

Like I said, this is old hat at Slashdot.  Folks there were advocating violence and general mayhem against others for mere OS choices in the late 90s.  Slashdotters, as a community, have always advocated Freedom as long as it's Freedom they agree with.  It's basically DU (with a splash of Hardcoretalk.com) for techies.

Chris

[roo_ster]

It's also a way to become wealthy. The political class, for the most part, lives very well. They have perks and privileges the great unwashed do not, and are exempt from many of the laws and restrictions they shackle us with. They don't send their children to the public schools to which they condemn the rest of our society, and they wouldn't be subject to the same substandard health care they want to foist on us.

Remember Jamie Gorelick, formerly of Pres Clinton's administration?  The one who erected "the wall" between FBI criminal & counterintel efforts?

Well, she went on after working for ol' slick willy to work for Fannie Mae.  Made ~$26 million in 4 years there.  Good work for a diversity no-talent political appointee.  She's not the only one to do that well, either.

[roo_ster]

It's an interesting phenomenon, how people can be outraged that some members of the public might want to take public funds to pay for healthcare, but end up fairly complacent that large corporations took more than that amount and tried to pay out massive bonuses to their executives with the money.

If you want to dismantle the welfare state, you should start with the biggest welfare queens on the planet: large corporations and their executives.  Letting that kind of socialism go on and then turning red-faced over public healthcare is a good way to re-popularize socialism a la European welfare states.

Comparing this instance of socialism to others is not threadjack. 

Yes, most people didn't like the bailout - but there was hardly the outrage, and there is hardly the lasting contempt for major corporations and their boards, that there is for say, ACORN or other public health care advocates.  Which is ironic, considering that the lion's share of welfare goes to corporations and wealthy individuals.

A trillion dollars in corporate welfare gets the modern American right annoyed, but the idea of paying for people's medicine gets them downright outraged.  This feature of the free-market right is not helpful, as eventually people will decide that because it's alright for corporations to get public money, they ought to get a slice as well.

Uh, have you missed the Tea Party movement in its entirety or only seen Anderson Cooper's reportage on it?

What you are describing is crony capitalism / corporatism.  It is something that grew out of the left/progressive project.  It is a symptom, not cause, of unconstitutional,bloated, left-wing government.  There are plenty of folks who have worked diligently over the decades against it. 

The best way to kill both corporate welfare & indivudual welfare is to reduce the size/scope of gov't to its constitutionally-compliant functions.

The only thing to be written in crony capitalism's / corporatism's defense is that the taxpayers' dollars are not 100% flushed down the toilet, as businesses, even pathetically compromised crony corporations, generally produce something of value.  Individual welfare produces nothing more than generations of dependency.

[Jamisjockey]

Comparing this instance of socialism to others is not threadjack. 

Yes, most people didn't like the bailout - but there was hardly the outrage, and there is hardly the lasting contempt for major corporations and their boards, that there is for say, ACORN or other public health care advocates.  Which is ironic, considering that the lion's share of welfare goes to corporations and wealthy individuals.

A trillion dollars in corporate welfare gets the modern American right annoyed, but the idea of paying for people's medicine gets them downright outraged.  This feature of the free-market right is not helpful, as eventually people will decide that because it's alright for corporations to get public money, they ought to get a slice as well.

Okay, really?  That's not what this thread is about, and you would be hard pressed to find anyone on this board to defend corporate welfare.  Threadjack something else.

[MechAg94]

I find it amusing you guys let yourselves get all bitched up over a slashdotter.  Hyperbole is the rule of the day over there and members have advocated violence for less (ie OS choice) while denouncing others for their participation in nonviolent activities (I myself was accused of being a violent person because I collected knives).

Chances are, the slashdotter in question spends more time in his parents' basement than the Christmas decorations.

Chris
Member of the /. 4 Digit UID Club: 8981

Who is getting "bitched up"?  I just like discussing topics.  This one is a bit more "out there" than others.  :D

I know nothing of the site though. 

[Nitrogen]

I don't recall a single APS member who was in favor of the corporate bail outs.

Heck, even the raging liberals on here (err, me) were against it, so yeah!

[Perd Hapley]

Comparing this instance of socialism to others is not threadjack. 

Yes, most people didn't like the bailout - but there was hardly the outrage, and there is hardly the lasting contempt for major corporations and their boards, that there is for say, ACORN or other public health care advocates. 

Maybe it's because the latter are actually attempting to tear down the country, rather than just profit from it.   


But for the record, the enlightened among us were not the least bit worried about the AIG bonuses.  A company trying to pay its people - shocking!!