Can we bring back DDT yet?

[charby]

And have been for quite awhile.  But until there is one (and assuming the current Playmate of the Month does go around convincing people that it makes their kids Autistic/ADD/ADHD) we should use what is known to work to prevent the spread of disease.  

Maybe we should end the use of sanitary sewers and let them work on developing a Dysentery vaccine?

Or people could just take quinine during mosquito season.

[charby]

I'm sure the 800k plus folks who die this year will be relieved to hear that.

So how much smaller will that number be if ddt was used again? Many of those people are in some 3-4th world shithole with a dictator for a leader, do you really think that the insecticide will even be disseminated to the people. Also how are you going to stop someone from not following the label directions and going all willy nilly with application. People do that all the time with over the counter insecticides and herbicides.

[Tallpine]

The early season mosquitoes in Alaska were huge, but they were also slow moving and you could see them coming and slap them.

Later in the summer, there were billions of tiny ones that drive you crazy.  When I was working in the woods, I gassed and oiled my saw as fast as I could to get in running again because that kept them away.  No breaks at all until I could get back to the pickup and shoot down all the ones that got through the door with OFF or something. 

[Brad Johnson]

So how much smaller will that number be if ddt was used again? Many of those people are in some 3-4th world shithole with a dictator for a leader, do you really think that the insecticide will even be disseminated to the people. Also how are you going to stop someone from not following the label directions and going all willy nilly with application. People do that all the time with over the counter insecticides and herbicides.

So we should ban something good and useful because some people will misuse it?  (where's that rhetorical smiley...?)


In case you are missing the irony, let me elucidate:

Many of those people are in some 3-4th world shithole with a dictator for a leader, do you really think that the insecticide guns will even be disseminated to the people. Also how are you going to stop someone from not following the label directions and going all willy nilly with application going on a rampage. People do that all the time with over the counter insecticides and herbicides guns they bought from an unlicensed dealer.

Brad

[charby]

In case you are missing the irony, let me elucidate:

I saw the irony and I chose to ignore it, really starting to get old when people change "banned item" with gun.

[freakazoid]

I saw the irony and I chose to ignore it, really starting to get old when people change "banned item" with gun.

It works.

[charby]

It works.

I fail to see the logic of banning a known pollutant to the environment/human carcinogen vs banning firearms.

Maybe the 1960's ban on cherry bombs and m-80's fits a better logic with banning firearms.

[Balog]

I fail to see the logic of banning a known pollutant to the environment/human carcinogen vs banning firearms.

Maybe the 1960's ban on cherry bombs and m-80's fits a better logic with banning firearms.

Ok, let's skip the gun metaphor. The exhaust given from burning gasoline is a known pollutant and carcinogen. Shall we ban the internal combustion engine? The by-products of plastic manufactur are known pollutatns and carcinogens, shall we ban plastic?

The only way to get rid of known pollutants and carcinogens is to eliminate humans, they can't really sustain life without them.

[Gewehr98]

That actually was one of the advantages of being on chemo.  Mosquitoes wouldn't land on me or even come near.

Bummer about that whole not having a reflection in the mirror thing, though.   

[Gowen]

Or people could just take quinine during mosquito season.

Try and find quinine, last I heard it was restricted or priced that way.  An old gentlemen told what to do, buy seltzer water, it has it in it.

[charby]

Try and find quinine, last I heard it was restricted or priced that way.  An old gentlemen told what to do, buy seltzer water, it has it in it.

Amazon has several pages of quinine. It also a homeopathic medicine for leg/foot cramps.

[Scout26]

Bummer about that whole not having a reflection in the mirror thing, though.   

I don't show up on drone cameras either, so it works out. 

[charby]

Ok, let's skip the gun metaphor. The exhaust given from burning gasoline is a known pollutant and carcinogen. Shall we ban the internal combustion engine? The by-products of plastic manufactur are known pollutatns and carcinogens, shall we ban plastic?

The only way to get rid of known pollutants and carcinogens is to eliminate humans, they can't really sustain life without them.

Vehicle exhaust is slowly being taken care of/reduced by modern vehicle emissions, they are even going after diesel exhaust also. I think there were a few pages of complaints about emissions on diesel engines.

[Scout26]

I fail to see the logic of banning a known pollutant to the environment/human carcinogen vs banning firearms.

That's the logic that California is using to ban lead ammunition.

Check.  

[Balog]

Vehicle exhaust is slowly being taken care of/reduced by modern vehicle emissions, they are even going after diesel exhaust also. I think there were a few pages of complaints about emissions on diesel engines.

That doesn't really help your argument man.

[charby]

That doesn't really help your argument man.

How so? Vehicle exhaust has been proven to be full of a carcinogens and environmental pollutants, so environmental standards have been introduced to reduce or eliminate these problems. 

[MicroBalrog]

DDT is still  legal and produced for antimalaria-mosquito deployments.

[charby]

Inflammatory rhetoric.  Without information specific to exposure concentration, exposure type, and typical exposure mechanisms, the statement is meaningless, serving no informative purpose.

Brad

Here is your scientific paper

http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/ddtgen.pdf

yes it is still legal to use in many countries around the world, yet malaria deaths are still high.

[zxcvbob]

Try and find quinine, last I heard it was restricted or priced that way.  An old gentlemen told what to do, buy seltzer water, it has it in it.

Tonic, not seltzer nor club soda.  HTH

[Waitone]

Amazon has several pages of quinine. It also a homeopathic medicine for leg/foot cramps.

Good to know since our federal overlords banned potassium supplements.

[charby]

That's the logic that California is using to ban lead ammunition.

Check.  

California has some really weird priorities, but we already knew that. Yes the California Condor is really susceptible to lead poisoning, so are Bald eagles and other birds of prey.

[charby]

Good to know since our federal overlords banned potassium supplements.

You can get those at any drug store in the vitamin section.

[charby]

Good to know since our federal overlords banned potassium supplements.

Amazon also has KOI3 KIO3 if that is the supplement you are talking about.

[zxcvbob]

KOI₃?     Do you mean KIO₃?

[charby]

KOI₃?     Do you mean KIO₃?

Yes, I was typing way to fast.