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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2014, 07:42:56 PM »
So I liked the episode last night better than the premiere.  But I was hoping that the series was going to be on a more complex level of science explanation.  So far, it seems to be pretty darn basic.
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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2014, 08:56:50 PM »
I don't have time to write about all the points made in this article.  I'd say the author has a definite agenda, as obvious as the one put forth on the show.  In the very first point the author states "Even the most aggressive climate change models and their 20-foot ocean rises don’t predict that for Earth, no matter how many Chevy Volts we don’t buy."  Nowhere does anyone say that the earth is in danger of becoming anything remotely like Venus.  Saying the atmosphere on Venus is a greenhouse atmosphere has nothing to do with the atmosphere on Earth.

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I'm pretty sure I remember that Sagan himself in the original Cosmos puts out the idea that Earth is at risk of becoming a Venus-like steamy greenhouse.  I think he also discusses the possibility of swinging too far the other way and losing our atmosphere and becoming ice cold like Mars.  It's been years (decades) since I last saw the original Cosmos, so don't quote me on this.

As for the Federalist, they're unapologetically right-wing.  Of course they have an agenda.

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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2014, 09:24:35 PM »
Seth MacFarlane and Neil deGrasse Tyson also have an agenda I suspect.

An agenda that is probably a mixed bag of good and bad from my perspective.

The program is meant to be more inspirational than hard science from a recent interview with deGrasse I ran across.





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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2014, 10:41:44 AM »
I found my mind wandering as I watched episode 2.

It's OK, but I certainly am not learning anything new.

I give it a lukewarm 'meh'.

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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2014, 09:05:27 AM »
Here is an interesting discussion regarding Bruno and the treatment of him in the Cosmos episode.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/outthere/2014/03/13/cosmos-giordano-bruno-response-steven-soter/#.UymT487LK71
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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2014, 12:15:25 PM »
I found my mind wandering as I watched episode 2.

It's OK, but I certainly am not learning anything new.

I give it a lukewarm 'meh'.

Sawdust

Same here. 

I was really dismayed when Neil deGrasse Tyson was talking about the motor proteins in a cell, while the imagry displayed same dragging a vacoulle along the microtubules within the cell.  He refered to these proteins as "Beings".  :facepalm:
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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2014, 08:23:51 PM »
I fell asleep.


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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2014, 10:09:21 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2014, 10:23:55 PM »
I just want to thank you all for saving two hours of my life that could have been wasted on this.

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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2014, 11:51:02 AM »
I watched it, and actually I find it to be rather fascinating.

I think it is well worth watching.
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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2014, 11:53:04 AM »
I fell asleep.





That's what old people do. They sit in their chairs and fall asleep in front of the TV.


I had to rewind the first episode about half way because I fell asleep....  :rofl:
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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2014, 12:55:19 PM »
If the purpose of this show is to:

A) get more people interested in science and/or

B) get more kids interested in science so they work in STEm fields (not necessarily get STEM degrees).

Then it's good. Even if we chringe when they put out bad info.  As long as you correct it for your kids, then it's even better.  ;)
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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2014, 01:00:04 PM »
"As long as you correct it for your kids, then it's even better. "

Daddy! My teacher says that there weren't any dinosaurs in the Garden of Eden!

Your teacher's a statist stoodge, son.

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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2014, 06:34:23 PM »
I mean in things like regarding Bruno.

Hell, Robert is already disliked by his science teacher because he debates her on Globular Woerming.  (She's a Prius driving, true believer).  He comes homes and asks me questions about it.  We research the answers, then he goes in the next day and presents his argument about why she's FOS.

Since he's graded on the actual curriculum (which does not include AGW), and he's respectful (so far) he doesn't have to do ALL the extra credit that he does to maintain his A.

But again, we don't have TV, so most of the trash that on is prevented from entering the house.  If we do watch TV it's something from the libary.  When we watch the History Channel's 10 part documentary on the American Revolution, I was able to pause the DVD, provide additional information and/or correct what was being presented.   What was even better and raised my standing his eyes was that often I have facts and items of interest that they hadn't presented yet.   ;)
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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2014, 11:14:45 PM »
OK, tonights episode about light was a nice break from the tapletop disaster excercise I'm going to inflict on my coworkers tomorrow.  However, did I hear Neil make the claim that Carmina Baruna was composed in the Middle Ages?  :facepalm:

I did like the arrangement for the pipe organ that was presented, I guess I have another peice of music to track down and acquire.
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Re: COSMOS on Fox, et al
« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2014, 01:50:22 AM »
OK, tonights episode about light was a nice break from the tapletop disaster excercise I'm going to inflict on my coworkers tomorrow.  However, did I hear Neil make the claim that Carmina Baruna was composed in the Middle Ages?  :facepalm:

I did like the arrangement for the pipe organ that was presented, I guess I have another peice of music to track down and acquire.

Well, the poems it was based on were:

Carmina Burana (/ˈkɑrmɨnə bʊˈrɑːnə/; Latin for "Songs from Beuern" ("Beuern" is short for Benediktbeuern) is the name given to a manuscript of 254[1] poems and dramatic texts mostly from the 11th or 12th century, although some are from the 13th century. The pieces are mostly bawdy, irreverent, and satirical. They were written principally in Medieval Latin; a few in Middle High German, and some with traces of Old French or Provençal.

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