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Title: The fail is (allegedly) strong with this one.
Post by: kgbsquirrel on August 31, 2012, 04:40:18 PM
Oh yeah, could be a hit piece, or could be God's own gospel. We'll just have to wait and see, but until then my inner cynic is busy having a schadenfreude party.  [popcorn] (and for the record, the schadenfreude is entirely directed at the Big O)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/31/families-deceased-seals-claim-presidential-condolence-letters-signed-with-auto/


ETA: By the way, I don't really need to state how much of an insult this is (if proven to be true) to the sacrifice of our nations heroes and their families, do I?
Title: Re: The fail is (allegedly) strong with this one.
Post by: brimic on August 31, 2012, 05:04:24 PM
I can't decide which is more insulting- having a machine sign the letters or lying about hand signing each letter.

OTOH, does this behavior from pathological narcissist surprise anyone?
Title: Re: The fail is (allegedly) strong with this one.
Post by: Scout26 on August 31, 2012, 05:10:30 PM
It's one thing to stretch or slightly bend the truth.  This administration has gone far beyond that to outright lying.
Title: Re: The fail is (allegedly) strong with this one.
Post by: vaskidmark on August 31, 2012, 05:44:29 PM
I have no problem with The Commander in Chief sending a form letter that was electronically signed.  Besides the fact that he has many other issues and problems that I would rather he attend to as both the CiC and POTUS, his record would suggest that hand-signing a letter would be the height of hypocrisy.

The attempts to cover what should have been a non-event (even though all the letters were word for word the same) is what frosts me.  And speaking of word-for-word letters, there is a long and honored history of both the wording and the reason why those words are the ones used.  Basically it boils down to everybody is treated equally - if there is anything special it will be handled by a commendation (medal to you non-.mil types).

stay safe.
Title: Re: The fail is (allegedly) strong with this one.
Post by: brimic on August 31, 2012, 05:48:47 PM
“The President signs every such letter personally,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Friday

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I have no problem with The Commander in Chief sending a form letter that was electronically signed.  Besides the fact that he has many other issues and problems that I would rather he attend to as both the CiC and POTUS, his record would suggest that hand-signing a letter would be the height of hypocrisy.

Why do they have a need to lie about it? Is lying the Obama admin's default setting?
Should we find this acceptable?
Title: Re: The fail is (allegedly) strong with this one.
Post by: MechAg94 on August 31, 2012, 05:53:36 PM
I have no problem with The Commander in Chief sending a form letter that was electronically signed.  Besides the fact that he has many other issues and problems that I would rather he attend to as both the CiC and POTUS, his record would suggest that hand-signing a letter would be the height of hypocrisy.

The attempts to cover what should have been a non-event (even though all the letters were word for word the same) is what frosts me.  And speaking of word-for-word letters, there is a long and honored history of both the wording and the reason why those words are the ones used.  Basically it boils down to everybody is treated equally - if there is anything special it will be handled by a commendation (medal to you non-.mil types).

stay safe.
I agree with your second paragraph, but we really don't have that many soldiers dying combat that the President can't take a little time with it.  Even if it was a form letter, a signature takes little or no time and it seems appropriate to me.  I think Presidents spend far more time on far less important things that this.
Title: Re: The fail is (allegedly) strong with this one.
Post by: BobR on August 31, 2012, 06:19:45 PM
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I think Presidents spend far more time on far less important things that this.

You mean, like sending personal letter of condolence to the family of a rapper?

http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/20120830005-obama-letters.html

(Maybe not the most unbiased source, but it does link to an ABC news piece)

bob
Title: Re: The fail is (allegedly) strong with this one.
Post by: Jamie B on August 31, 2012, 06:34:57 PM
Did some of you actually read the article?

There is no proof of lying now - the Veteran's organization is going to investigate.
Title: Re: The fail is (allegedly) strong with this one.
Post by: Boomhauer on August 31, 2012, 07:05:39 PM
Wasn't there hoopla about rumsfield using an auto pen too?