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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #275 on: December 23, 2012, 10:18:39 AM »
Suffrage hell... we should have never given them shoes!

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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #276 on: December 23, 2012, 02:16:01 PM »
"A voice is heard in Ramah, mourning and great weeping; Rachel weeping for her children and refusing to be comforted, because her children are no more."  --Jeremiah 31:15  (also Matthew 2:18)

Ran across this verse again this morning in the Christmas story.  :'(  That is all.
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #277 on: December 23, 2012, 02:19:27 PM »
More proof that the Bible is a myth. No way they could have killed all those children without assault weapons and high capacity magazine clips.
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #278 on: December 23, 2012, 04:29:43 PM »
More proof that the Bible is a myth. No way they could have killed all those children without assault weapons and high capacity magazine clips.

What we need is sword control.  Only the Babylonian government should be allowed to have swords.
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #279 on: December 23, 2012, 06:25:13 PM »
What we need is sword control.  Only the Babylonian government should be allowed to have swords.
What about ark of the covenant control?  Man portable WMD's?  Those can be stolen and sold on the black market!

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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #280 on: December 24, 2012, 07:47:59 PM »
What about ark of the covenant control?  Man portable WMD's?  Those can be stolen and sold on the black market!

Ask the Philistines how stealing the ark worked out for them. Not pretty.
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #281 on: December 24, 2012, 09:28:47 PM »
Ask the Philistines how stealing the ark worked out for them. Not pretty.

That just proves the need for more Ark control!!!!   
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #282 on: December 24, 2012, 09:44:48 PM »
That just proves the need for more Ark control!!!!   

Agreed....just look at how peaceful the world has been since arks were banned....
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #283 on: December 25, 2012, 01:06:30 AM »

I think I'll go write an article on "modern musketry."

I dunno how I'll structure it, but I find it hopelessly ironic that in a "thoroughly modern" society, where communications, news, and entertainment ride the very latest technologies, where the movement and markets have jet-age transportation, where the our movements, whereabouts, and conversations are now "public," privacy having been trumped by "conveniences" built into the high-tech things we buy, from cars to cell phones, the business of self defense, personal security, and resistance to tyranny are somehow supposed to be constrained to primitive devices from two centuries ago.

There's this premise that seems to have coalesced around the concept that somehow "assault weapons" are this über-modern latter day invention and just happened in the last decade or two, and that's why we've seen this sudden rash of spree shootings in gun-free zones.  "Automatic" weapons are just "too modern" and nobody "needs" anything that advanced for "legitimate" purposes.

Our "über-modern" plus-five machines of doom are based on designs that are, in most cases, over a hundred years old, with some of the more recent ones based on designs that are merely 50 and 60 years old, enhanced only by advances in metallurgy, high-strength polymers, ergonomics, and optics.  The really modern stuff is solely in the hands of the military, and costs staggering sums to build and maintain.

No, our small arms are not excessively modern and, despite the protestations that, notwithstanding that the word "musket" never once appears in the CONUS or in the BoR, the framers somehow meant for that specific piece of technology to remain frozen in time, the primitive arms permitted the common man today fall short of the original intent:  that "every terrible implement of the soldier" is "the birthright of Americans."

It is not the terrible implement which is new.

What is new is mass school/mall/church shootings.


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"Why does anyone NEED a machine gun for self defense?"  --> "Mu!"  ("I reject your premise, your question is not answerable as stated."  Alternatively, "your question is broken.")

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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #284 on: December 25, 2012, 11:00:28 AM »
The anti-gun folks have glorified what they call "assault weapons" to the point that yes they are the first choice of violent nutcases  :facepalm:
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #285 on: December 25, 2012, 12:01:42 PM »
The anti-gun folks have glorified what they call "assault weapons" to the point that yes they are the first choice of violent nutcases  :facepalm:

So are Glock pistols. Maybe we should just simplify the new AWB and ban Glocks.




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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #286 on: December 25, 2012, 04:09:20 PM »
The anti-gun folks have glorified what they call "assault weapons" to the point that yes they are the first choice of violent nutcases  :facepalm:

This.

And a ban will just make it worse, elevating military-styled semi-automatic rifles as a talisman of power to these disaffected people, and the "forbidden fruit" factor many times over.
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #287 on: December 25, 2012, 05:27:18 PM »
It's always the women...  :facepalm:

The world would be a much safer place if they just banned men.



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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #288 on: December 25, 2012, 06:21:09 PM »
I leave it up to y'all to decide whether I'm joking or not.

"Y'all" individually, or do you want us to vote?
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #289 on: December 25, 2012, 09:12:47 PM »
The world would be a much safer place if they just banned men.



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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #290 on: December 25, 2012, 09:48:54 PM »
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It must be late.  My mind is starting to wander again, and I find myself reviewing the "talking points" being chanted by the usual suspects.  There is so much wrong with each of the assertions, that the only possible response to them in general is "mu" (see here for clarification on mu, or "unask").

I like it!  It seems to be related to my response, ""What does your question really mean?"
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #291 on: January 13, 2013, 06:56:15 PM »
Newtown parents don't want the police to leave. They must be as crazy as Wayne LaPierre. 

http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Newtown-parents-demand-police-presence-at-schools-4180701.php


I didn't know the Glock he had with him was a 10 mm. Probably not a cartridge that shows up in the evidence locker very often.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #292 on: January 14, 2013, 10:49:04 AM »
From fisty's article:

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What did the teachers and staff do that was heroic?  I know they got shot... did they get shot attempting to combat Lanza?  Or did they just get shot?

I'm very skeptical of anyone labeling a dead person a "hero" any more in our media agenda driven world.  90% or more of those that receive this title, do not deserve it.
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #293 on: January 14, 2013, 01:14:20 PM »
From fisty's article:

What did the teachers and staff do that was heroic?  I know they got shot... did they get shot attempting to combat Lanza?  Or did they just get shot?

I'm very skeptical of anyone labeling a dead person a "hero" any more in our media agenda driven world.  90% or more of those that receive this title, do not deserve it.

The principal and the school psychologist, who were the first two people killed, did try to intercept the shooter as he entered the school. Heroic, perhaps, but also dumb -- two unarmed women against a guy armed with a semi-automatic rifle. The results were predictable.

Some of the teachers did try to put themselves between the kids and the shooter. It didn't make any difference.

IMHO the hero at Sandy Hook was a janitor. I watched an interview with one of the teachers' aides. She said when she and her teacher realized they should lock the classroom door, they discovered that neither of them had the key. A custodian came through, locked the doors in that corridor, and (she said) stood guard in the corridor. He was not named, I haven't seen any reference to it other than that interview, but -- if true -- that man deserves a medal.

Found it -- it wasn't easy: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/2012/12/19/tales-heroism-sandy-hook-all-i-was-hearing-was-pop-pop-pop-pop-and-it-wasnt-stopping
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #294 on: January 14, 2013, 01:17:56 PM »
According to what's been reported, some teachers and staff did attempt to confront Lanza, or physically shielded their students.

Of course, they were not terribly successful, being unarmed.
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #295 on: January 14, 2013, 02:56:01 PM »
The world would be a much safer place if they just banned men.



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Well, that idea has the benefit that it would actually work.  If all men are banned, in 100 years or so all man-made violence, crime, and murder would end, along with everything else man-made.  Enacting that sort of ban might be even more difficult than banning guns.
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #296 on: January 14, 2013, 04:00:50 PM »
The conspiracy nuts are are out in force.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #297 on: January 15, 2013, 06:14:53 AM »
One of my best friends, someone I have always considered quite rational, made the suggestion that SH was staged by the govt as a stepping stone to more gun control. It was all I could do to keep my jaw from  dropping.  ;/
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #298 on: January 15, 2013, 07:21:09 AM »
One of my best friends, someone I have always considered quite rational, made the suggestion that SH was staged by the govt as a stepping stone to more gun control. It was all I could do to keep my jaw from  dropping.  ;/
Well...if anyone had suggested back in say 2000 that the US government would facilitate the smuggling of weapons to Mexican drug cartels in order to attack the Second Amendment, what do you think your reaction would've been then?  =|
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Re: School Shooting at CT Elementary School
« Reply #299 on: January 15, 2013, 08:12:13 AM »
My govt smuggling weapons? yea, I can sure as hell believe that. But I'm not clear on how it was an attack on the 2nd amendment.
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