Author Topic: Don't bring a tire-iron to a gun fight. (Read 6860 times)

Jocassee · « **on:** August 30, 2011, 02:49:20 PM »

http://www.wyff4.com/r/29014104/detail.html

Spartanburg, SC man shoots perp after being followed home from an ATM.

SADShooter · « **Reply #1 on:** August 30, 2011, 03:01:59 PM »

Money quote from the local Sherriff: "you're gon' mess with the wrong one, and you're gon' get shot."

Ben · « **Reply #2 on:** August 30, 2011, 03:06:50 PM »

This was the money quote for me:

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Wright said, "It's bad when you have a dead person. And it's bad when you have a citizen who has to defend his life like that. That's not what we want. We just want people to leave other people alone."

Read more: http://www.wyff4.com/news/29014104/detail.html#ixzz1WXZx9r2H

Jocassee · « **Reply #3 on:** August 30, 2011, 03:25:08 PM »

I avoid Spartanburg County/Boiling Springs at night...on the weekends...actually pretty much all the time. My brother works about a mile from where this happened.

makattak · « **Reply #4 on:** August 30, 2011, 03:39:47 PM »

He chose.... poorly.

Viking · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2011, 04:23:51 PM »

Sheriffs are elected, right? That's vote-winning quote right here:

Quote from: Chuck Wright

thieves sometimes learn their lesson the hard way. "People are going to have to stop robbing folks," he said.

Also this, from the relatives of the dead robber:

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They told McCormick they're sorry that the homeowner was put in the position of defending himself, and they said they will pray for him.

Bit unusual, isn't it? Seems like most of the stories I read, the relatives of the dead crook go bananas and blabber about violence not being an option and why did he have to kill him waily waily...

Also: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

dogmush · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2011, 04:31:57 PM »

Quote from: Viking on August 30, 2011, 04:23:51 PM

Also this, from the relatives of the dead robber:Bit unusual, isn't it? Seems like most of the stories I read, the relatives of the dead crook go bananas and blabber about violence not being an option and why did he have to kill him waily waily...

White victim from SC. The family is probably from a different sub-culture from the "My baby didn't hurt no one!" wailers.

HankB · « **Reply #7 on:** August 30, 2011, 04:51:04 PM »

I think another APS member coined the term "Catastrophic failure of the victim selection process" . . .

Viking · « **Reply #8 on:** August 30, 2011, 05:41:47 PM »

Quote from: HankB on August 30, 2011, 04:51:04 PM

I think another APS member coined the term "Catastrophic failure of the victim selection process" . . .

Standing Wolf, IIRC.

Jocassee · « **Reply #9 on:** August 30, 2011, 05:55:54 PM »

Quote from: dogmush on August 30, 2011, 04:31:57 PM

White victim from SC. The family is probably from a different sub-culture from the "My baby didn't hurt no one!" wailers.

I think this is most probably the case.

lee n. field · « **Reply #10 on:** August 30, 2011, 06:29:47 PM »

Quote from: HankB on August 30, 2011, 04:51:04 PM

I think another APS member coined the term "Catastrophic failure of the victim selection process" . . .

Comes from Mr. Ayoob, I think.

Regolith · « **Reply #11 on:** August 30, 2011, 07:40:02 PM »

Quote from: lee n. field on August 30, 2011, 06:29:47 PM

Comes from Mr. Ayoob, I think.

Either him or Cooper. Can't remember which one...

lupinus · « **Reply #12 on:** August 30, 2011, 08:06:09 PM »

Quote from: Jocassee on August 30, 2011, 03:25:08 PM

I avoid Spartanburg County/Boiling Springs at night...on the weekends...actually pretty much all the time. My brother works about a mile from where this happened.

Made all the easier by the fact there really is no appealing reason to go there. Certainly not with Greenville right next door.

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #13 on:** August 30, 2011, 10:29:50 PM »

Quote from: HankB on August 30, 2011, 04:51:04 PM

I think another APS member coined the term "Catastrophic failure of the victim selection process" . . .

I've used that quite a bit but I think it originated with Jeff Cooper.

Tuco · « **Reply #14 on:** August 30, 2011, 10:39:33 PM »

I got hit once with a tire iron.
It hurt quite a bit.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #15 on:** August 31, 2011, 12:23:12 AM »

I will bring whatever I like to a gun fight, thank you very much.

In addition to the gun(s).

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #16 on:** August 31, 2011, 01:25:36 PM »

Rumor has it that the USMC recommends, in addition to bringing your own gun, that you bring all your friends who have guns also.

But what does the USMC Field Training Manual say to bring to a tire iron fight?

AJ Dual · « **Reply #17 on:** August 31, 2011, 01:58:34 PM »

Quote from: Tuco on August 30, 2011, 10:39:33 PM

I got hit once with a tire iron.
It hurt quite a bit.

I can imagine. Not only are they pretty big, but to get the wrinkles out of tires, they have to be really HOT too.

Tallpine · « **Reply #18 on:** August 31, 2011, 02:12:25 PM »

Quote from: AJ Dual on August 31, 2011, 01:58:34 PM

I can imagine. Not only are they pretty big, but to get the wrinkles out of tires, they have to be really HOT too.

When my tires get wrinkled, I put more air in them.

dogmush · « **Reply #19 on:** August 31, 2011, 02:57:03 PM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on August 31, 2011, 01:25:36 PM

But what does the USMC Field Training Manual say to bring to a tire iron fight?

Bring a gun; bring all your friends with guns. It's pretty much the same for any situation. The Marines aren't known for their stunning breadth of tactics.

vaskidmark · « **Reply #20 on:** August 31, 2011, 03:06:39 PM »

Quote from: dogmush on August 31, 2011, 02:57:03 PM

Bring a gun; bring all your friends with guns. It's pretty much the same for any situation. The Marines aren't known for their stunning breadth of tactics.

Waddya mean? Marines gots two tactics - 1) shoot it dead, and then shoot it dead again just to make sure; and 2) call in artillery and close air support to shoot it dead before you go and shoot it dead again just to make sure.

Seriously, how much more tactics does a guy need?

stay safe.

makattak · « **Reply #21 on:** August 31, 2011, 03:11:27 PM »

Quote from: vaskidmark on August 31, 2011, 03:06:39 PM

Waddya mean? Marines gots two tactics - 1) shoot it dead, and then shoot it dead again just to make sure; and 2) call in artillery and close air support to shoot it dead before you go and shoot it dead again just to make sure.

Seriously, how much more tactics does a guy need?

stay safe.

I thought they had three tactics:

1) Attack
2) Attack, attack!
3) Attack, attack, attack!

dogmush · « **Reply #22 on:** August 31, 2011, 03:12:20 PM »

You forgot drink beer after shooting it dead.

birdman · « **Reply #23 on:** August 31, 2011, 04:52:01 PM »

Quote from: dogmush on August 31, 2011, 03:12:20 PM

You forgot drink beer after shooting it dead.

Also forgot "complain about equipment or getting shafted in the procurement process"

vaskidmark · « **Reply #24 on:** August 31, 2011, 06:30:10 PM »

Quote from: dogmush on August 31, 2011, 03:12:20 PM

You forgot drink beer after shooting it dead.

Quote from: birdman on August 31, 2011, 04:52:01 PM

Also forgot "complain about equipment or getting shafted in the procurement process"

Those are not tactics; they are policies.

And whose signature line is quoting something I once said about Marines and griping? I know I said it, but can't remember exactly how I said it. (It was brilliant, which is probably the reason I can't recall the exact words. Lightning does not always strike multiple times, despite what "science" and "statistics" say.)

stay safe.

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Author Topic: Don't bring a tire-iron to a gun fight. (Read 6860 times)