Author Topic: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands! (Read 5763 times)

Declaration Day · « **on:** September 25, 2009, 08:51:37 AM »

Oh, happy day! I thought that large stocks of M1s had dried up and that prices would be skyrocketing over the next few years. Looks like we'll have at least one more chance to get them at reasonable prices:

SEOUL, Korea –-(AmmoLand.com)- South Korea’s defense ministry said Wednesday it plans to raise tens of millions of dollars by selling more than 100,000 aging US-supplied rifles to gun enthusiasts in the United States.

http://www.ammoland.com/2009/09/23/south-korea-to-sell-108000-garand-rifles-to-us-gun-collectors/

Stand_watie · « **Reply #1 on:** September 25, 2009, 09:27:56 AM »

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...South Korea provided the second-largest contingent of foreign troops in South Vietnam after its close ally, the United States....

I didn't know that. Although it makes sense.

makattak · « **Reply #2 on:** September 25, 2009, 09:54:59 AM »

The article fails abysmally.

A good news article has the 5 W's. Who, what, when, where, and why.

It got 3. Who, what, and why.

I'm sorry, but the most important two are WHEN and WHERE!!!!

brimic · « **Reply #3 on:** September 25, 2009, 09:59:24 AM »

Hopefully it won't be Mitchell's Mausers importing them :|

MechAg94 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:30:23 AM »

Cool. It would be nice to pick up an inexpensive one. Even if it is beat up, it might be a good project gun.

charby · « **Reply #5 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:34:34 AM »

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Washington has approved South Korea’s plan to sell about 86,000 M1 Garand rifles and 22,000 M1 carbine rifles, together valued at 108 million dollars, the ministry said.

108,000 rifles valued at 108million equals $1000 each. Nothing cheap there.

AZRedhawk44 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:06:10 AM »

Quote from: charby on September 25, 2009, 10:34:34 AM

108,000 rifles valued at 108million equals $1000 each. Nothing cheap there.

Yep. I noticed that, too.

Definitely a retailer like Mitchell's, or maybe even Century (yech... can you imagine a Garand with their import marks on it?). CMP won't be getting these.

Gewehr98 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:22:21 AM »

I wouldn't get too excited.

Anybody remember the Blue Sky M1 Garands, brought back from Korea a decade or so ago?

Those things were gawd-awful, and it made the worst of the DCM/CMP Garands look unissued by comparison.

RaspberrySurprise · « **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:49:41 AM »

Quote from: brimic on September 25, 2009, 09:59:24 AM

Hopefully it won't be Mitchell's Mausers importing them :|

Why is that?

Declaration Day · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2009, 01:07:15 PM »

Quote from: charby on September 25, 2009, 10:34:34 AM

108,000 rifles valued at 108million equals $1000 each. Nothing cheap there.

True, but who assessed their value, and will they really get that much for them? I imagine they're going to sell for whatever an importer is willing to pay. They'd have to be pristine for the first middle man to pay that much.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 25, 2009, 01:49:55 PM »

Yeah, brand new Garands are $1000. A used one out of surplus wouldn't retail for that. I certainly wouldn't believe any importers would pay that.

Gewehr98 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 25, 2009, 02:00:58 PM »

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Yeah, brand new Garands are $1000.

Where are you buying a brand-new Garand?

Nick1911 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 25, 2009, 02:10:40 PM »

Quote from: Gewehr98 on September 25, 2009, 02:00:58 PM

Where are you buying a brand-new Garand?

Springfield Armory is making them still. (or at least they were a few years ago)

41magsnub · « **Reply #13 on:** September 25, 2009, 02:18:17 PM »

Quote from: Nick1911 on September 25, 2009, 02:10:40 PM

Springfield Armory is making them still. (or at least they were a few years ago)

I don't think they are, there is no mention of them on the site or in their current catalog at all.

Nick1911 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 25, 2009, 02:22:31 PM »

Quote from: 41magsnub on September 25, 2009, 02:18:17 PM

I don't think they are, there is no mention of them on the site or in their current catalog at all.

Huh. Well, I bought one ~2002, 2003. It was definitely new production.

brimic · « **Reply #15 on:** September 25, 2009, 03:03:07 PM »

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Why is that?

MM is teh suxors.
Unless you like gen-u-wine velvet lined display cases individually numbered to rifles which are individually numbered to some outlandish medal which includes a certificate of aunthenticity so that you are assured that the velvet lined case, the fake medal, and the rifle is real.

Declaration Day · « **Reply #16 on:** September 25, 2009, 03:04:47 PM »

Yes, Springfield Armory Inc. did make new production Garands for a few years. I was stupid enough to buy one. It was an inaccurate piece of junk that jammed frequently. After several attempts to improve its performance, I gave up and sold it.

I still have my original ones, though. Still reliable and deadly accurate.

Nick1911 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 25, 2009, 03:07:29 PM »

Quote from: Declaration Day on September 25, 2009, 03:04:47 PM

Yes, Springfield Armory Inc. did make new production Garands for a few years. I was stupid enough to buy one. It was an inaccurate piece of junk that jammed frequently. After several attempts to improve its performance, I gave up and sold it.

I still have my original ones, though. Still reliable and deadly accurate.

Huh. Mine hasn't ever jammed. I've been quite pleased with it.

RaspberrySurprise · « **Reply #18 on:** September 25, 2009, 03:36:23 PM »

Quote from: brimic on September 25, 2009, 03:03:07 PM

MM is teh suxors.
Unless you like gen-u-wine velvet lined display cases individually numbered to rifles which are individually numbered to some outlandish medal which includes a certificate of aunthenticity so that you are assured that the velvet lined case, the fake medal, and the rifle is real.

But does it come with a velvet painting of Elvis? That's the kicker right there.

red headed stranger · « **Reply #19 on:** September 25, 2009, 04:10:50 PM »

No, you only get that with the Elvis tribute 1911:

http://www.americaremembers.com/Products/ETP/ETP.asp

Gewehr98 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 25, 2009, 04:44:47 PM »

My understanding of the late-production Springfield, Inc. (Not The U.S. Springfield Armory, they shut down under MacNamara) M1 Garands is that they used cast Century (Australian) receivers mated with WWII/Korean War production USGI surplus parts and new barrels.

Not particularly a "new" M1 Garand, but pretty close.

More here:

http://www.fulton-armory.com/CAI-TI.htm

RocketMan · « **Reply #21 on:** September 25, 2009, 04:44:56 PM »

I wonder if the current administration will move to block their importation? After all, they are EVIL ASSAULT WEAPONS!!!!111ONESZOGMZ!!11!!

HankB · « **Reply #22 on:** September 25, 2009, 05:40:14 PM »

Quote from: Gewehr98 on September 25, 2009, 04:44:47 PM

My understanding of the late-production Springfield, Inc. (Not The U.S. Springfield Armory, they shut down under MacNamara) M1 Garands is that they used cast Century (Australian) receivers mated with WWII/Korean War production USGI surplus parts and new barrels.

Not particularly a "new" M1 Garand, but pretty close.

More here:

http://www.fulton-armory.com/CAI-TI.htm

In many of the milsurp and Garand forums, there were reports that some of the parts in the Springfield, Inc., Garands were indeed milsurp - heavily used milsurp, with the rust cleaned off and a repark.

A year or two back, I remember reading that the CMP had spoken with the Koreans about bringing back some M1s (the way they did the Greek Garands and Italian & Bavarian carbines) but ending up declining due to the poor condition of the Korean rifles.

Gewehr98 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 25, 2009, 09:28:49 PM »

Like I stated above, the previous batch of Korean bring-back M1 Garands looked like they had been used to beat-start a Jeep. I'd take the worst-example DCM/CMP woodless M1 Garand and re-stock it over another Blue Sky type of import any day. I even saw one Blue Sky Garand that had the muzzle counterbored almost to the depth of the gas port due to cleaning rod wear.

Antibubba · « **Reply #24 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:45:04 AM »

We'll have to see how much for the carbines. And the condition.

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Author Topic: South Korea to sell cache of M1 Garands! (Read 5763 times)