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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Ben on December 04, 2017, 01:19:56 PM
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Delicious, delicious, patriarchy. I find it most amusing that this numbskull professor is being taken to task by more women than men. :laugh:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/12/04/nom-nom-nom-patriarchy-is-delicious-conservative-women-roast-prof-who-says-meat-is-sexist/
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Well damn. I suppressed my wife this weekend then with some ribs. Or more accurately suppressed her hunger because I'm not stupid. Hungry wife is an angry wife.
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I'm pretty certain that a majority of my female ancestors going way way back were meat eaters.
Vegetarianism or worse yet, vegan is a recent and unhealthy diet.
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Not to be pedantic but vegetarian diets have been around a long time. :P
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I'll be the middle of the road guy. O-M-N-I-V-O-R-E.
The ability to eat lots of stuff and adapt is what got us to where we are today. Specialization is for insects. :)
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Well damn. I suppressed my wife this weekend then with some ribs. Or more accurately suppressed her hunger because I'm not stupid. Hungry wife is an angry wife.
Hangry Hangry Harpy?
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To study the link between masculinity and meat, DeLessio-Parson interviewed 23 vegetarians who live in Argentina to probe how they deal with their country’s “meat-centric” culture, finding that being vegetarian itself is a political act.
Because Argentina is such a stellar example of a non-patriarchal society.
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Not to be pedantic but vegetarian diets have been around a long time. :P
only in a few limited cultures- none of which contributed to my DNA
The majority of known cultures of the past few thousand years have been omnivorous
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Hangry Hangry Harpy?
Terrible game. I do not recommend. 1/10
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Well, I guess I'll just have to get rid of those two thick cut ribeye hunks of patriarchy in the fridge somehow...
NOM NOM NOM...
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only in a few limited cultures- none of which contributed to my DNA
The majority of known cultures of the past few thousand years have been omnivorous
Vegetarianism or worse yet, vegan is a recent and unhealthy diet.
Is vegetarianism recent and unhealthy, or veganism? Most of the vegetarians I know are very healthy.
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Is vegetarianism recent and unhealthy, or veganism? Most of the vegetarians I know are very healthy.
veganism is the recent unhealthy one. Vegetarians have been around for a while, they're merely bad hunters. ;)
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First off, there is a Journal of Feminist Geography? I though geography was pretty plain and asexual. It's a map, of landmasses. Lots of little flags and funny accents in different places.
Second, how will these poor girls ever have any pudding?
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I got your oppression right here.
https://flic.kr/p/WbjL1Y (https://flic.kr/p/WbjL1Y)
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I got your oppression right here.
https://flic.kr/p/WbjL1Y (https://flic.kr/p/WbjL1Y)
It is very rude of you to so graphically depict you're patriarchy when I'm hungry.
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Just finished butchering the last of the patriarchy that was aging in the fridge. Still have to grind a few gallons of patriarchy when I find a good venison summer sausage recipe.
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Is vegetarianism recent and unhealthy, or veganism? Most of the vegetarians I know are very healthy.
It's difficult to he a healthy vegetarian unless one is part of an evolved ethnic group with adapted diet or otherwise very cognizant and deliberately balancing essential foods. Most of the modern American vegetarians and especially vegans that I meet are nutritionally deficient, frustrated, and angry people.
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It is very rude of you to so graphically depict you're patriarchy when I'm hungry.
Do you want the bacon pictures?
I can post the bacon pictures.
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It's difficult to he a healthy vegetarian unless one is part of an evolved ethnic group with adapted diet or otherwise very cognizant and deliberately balancing essential foods. Most of the modern American vegetarians and especially vegans that I meet are nutritionally deficient, frustrated, and angry people.
All the Seventh Day Adventists that I know are vegetarians and seem really healthy. Almost like vegetarianism is their real religion, and they try to do it right. I don't think they are vegans, but not sure.
I don't know how vegans get their vitamin B12 -- I doubt they intentionally eat food contaminated with insects and rodent droppings. OTOH, maybe all grain is contaminated with enough insects and rodent droppings to meet our minimum requirement of B12 [barf] Or maybe some mushrooms produce B12? Or seaweed?
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All the Seventh Day Adventists that I know are vegetarians and seem really healthy. Almost like vegetarianism is their real religion, and they try to do it right. I don't think they are vegans, but not sure.
I don't know how vegans get their vitamin B12 -- I doubt they intentionally eat food contaminated with insects and rodent droppings. OTOH, maybe all grain is contaminated with enough insects and rodent droppings to meet our minimum requirement of B12 [barf] Or maybe some mushrooms produce B12? Or seaweed?
Supplements would be the most reliable way. That or they will run into a defiency. Worse yet are vegans with pets that decide to put them on vegan diets.
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Of course it is. Meat is a euphemism for the "gentleman's sausage," which means that meat the animal flesh is the equivalent to patriarchal repression and rape.
Simple, really.
If you tend to think like a chimp with brain damage.
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Kingcreek said,
Most of the modern American vegetarians and especially vegans that I meet are nutritionally deficient, frustrated, and angry people.
If true, that would explain a lot of politics today. :D
But I'm not clear on the difference between vegan and vegetarian.
I don't want to go into my canine teeth rant again, but I agree on the pets thing.
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I know more than a few vegetarians, and a few vegans, and NONE of them are any more nutritionally deficient, frustrated, or angry than anyone else in my circle of acquaintances.
On the whole, though, they are one hell of a lot fitter/healthier than the rest of us.
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I know more than a few vegetarians, and a few vegans, and NONE of them are any more nutritionally deficient, frustrated, or angry than anyone else in my circle of acquaintances.
On the whole, though, they are one hell of a lot fitter/healthier than the rest of us.
Then they're having to eat B12 fortified foods or taking B12 supplements. There is no way around it.
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I know more than a few vegetarians, and a few vegans, and NONE of them are any more nutritionally deficient, frustrated, or angry than anyone else in my circle of acquaintances.
On the whole, though, they are one hell of a lot fitter/healthier than the rest of us.
<ahem> <koff-koff> <Sotto voce> Sample selection bias? Is a comparison to the normally-distributed population valid?
<Terry makes sure his high-speed escape cane is nearby>
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Then they're having to eat B12 fortified foods or taking B12 supplements. There is no way around it.
I take B12 supplements as part of a daily multivitamin. And most people eat, as part of their every day diet, B12 supplemented food.
About the only way anyone in that track can avoid B12 supplemented food is if they're also practicing a 100% unprocessed raw diet.
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<ahem> <koff-koff> <Sotto voce> Sample selection bias? Is the comparison to the normally-distributed population valid?
<Terry makes sure his high-speed escape cane is nearby>
Right. And this "Most of the modern American vegetarians and especially vegans that I meet are nutritionally deficient, frustrated, and angry people." is certainly statistically valid. ;/
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Kingcreek said,
Most of the modern American vegetarians and especially vegans that I meet are nutritionally deficient, frustrated, and angry people.
If true, that would explain a lot of politics today.
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Bolding mine.
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I take B12 supplements as part of a daily multivitamin. And most people eat, as part of their every day diet, B12 supplemented food.
About the only way anyone in that track can avoid B12 supplemented food is if they're also practicing a 100% unprocessed raw diet.
Aren't B12 supplements animal-based? Wouldn't they have to be? Or are there GMO yeast or bacteria that can synthesize B12?
To answer a related question that somebody asked, a really strict vegetarian might not eat honey. A vegan is a really strict vegetarian who doesn't use any animal products; that's the difference as I understand it. IE, doesn't wear silk or leather. Wool is controversial.
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If true, that would explain a lot of politics today.
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Bolding mine.
Wow. What a way to call out his questionable assertions and methodology... ;/
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Cyanocobalamin is a synthetically derived B12 and which is primarily used in supplments and for food fortification.
Of course, there's a significant presence on the web of people screeching about how horrible Cyanocobalamin is, and how it should be avoided because it will cause all sorts of horrific mutations, diseases, premature death of everyone all around you, AND you should spend lots of money on OUR certified all natural and safe B12!
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I went back and put a :D in the original just for you, Mike. You're welcome.
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Cyanocobalamin is a synthetically derived B12 and which is primarily used in supplments and for food fortification.
Of course, there's a significant presence on the web of people screeching about how horrible Cyanocobalamin is, and how it should be avoided because it will cause all sorts of horrific mutations, diseases, premature death of everyone all around you, AND you should spend lots of money on OUR certified all natural and safe B12!
OMG!! it has cyanide in it! [tinfoil]
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Super Glue...
OMG!! it has cyanide in it ! [tinfoil]
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Super Glue...
OMG!! it has cyanide in it ! [tinfoil]
Not much though. Put a little on your lips. You won't taste the cyanide at all.
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Super Glue...
OMG!! it has cyanide in it ! [tinfoil]
I have no doubt that they'd screech that, but I believe that the prefix cyano, when used in this context, means blue or blue green, something like that. Like cyanobacteria...
Certainly not cyanide...
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I have no doubt that they'd screech that, but I believe that the prefix cyano, when used in this context, means blue or blue green, something like that. Like cyanobacteria...
Certainly not cyanide...
Pretty sure that CN molecule isn't blue-green.
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I didn't say it was blue green. I said the prefix stands for blue or blue green.
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I wasn't 100% sure, so I had to go look up the structure of cyanoacrylate, but no, in this case that prefix is for cyanide. Cyanide is CN-. You can see it in the structure of the cyanoacrylate I posted above.
I'm not enough of a chemist to tell you offhand how easy it would be to get it out of there, but it's there. Google, FWIW, warns that heating some cyanoacrylates can release Hydrogen Cyanide gas (HCN).
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Holy cow. Just a joke. I didn't mean to have us launch into all that cyantific stuff.
Terry
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Well I'll be goddamned... or poisoned...
There IS a CN group in Cyanocobalamin...
(https://images.rxlist.com/images/rxlist/B12inj1.gif)
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Well I'll be goddamned... or poisoned...
There IS a CN group in Cyanocobalamin...
(https://images.rxlist.com/images/rxlist/B12inj1.gif)
That's why vegetarians are healthier..... >:D
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That's why vegetarians are healthier..... >:D
:rofl:
Here, Charlie Cud Chewer, have a piece of vegan apple peach cake!
Of course it tastes like almonds. I used the apple seeds and peach pits as part of the recipe. More than 1 million percent of your daily allowance of all natural cyanide!
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That's why vegetarians are healthier..... >:D
Nope, that's what's in the artificial B12 supplements they have to take. Real B12 has a methyl group (CH3) there instead of a CN.
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:rofl:
Here, Charlie Cud Chewer, have a piece of vegan apple peach cake!
Of course it tastes like almonds. I used the apple seeds and peach pits as part of the recipe. More than 1 million percent of your daily allowance of all natural cyanide!
Let me guess, you got the recipe from the little girl who lives down the lane?
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Let me guess, you got the recipe from the little girl who lives down the lane?
Wow. What a crap festival that movie was!
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Nope, that's what's in the artificial B12 supplements they have to take. Real B12 has a methyl group (CH3) there instead of a CN.
Methyl group?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Cobalamin.png/200px-Cobalamin.png)
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Wait. Just found it. You're talking about Methylcobalamin...
But according to what I'm finding, methylcobalamin is also laboratory produced and is not natural.
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Wait. Just found it. You're talking about Methylcobalamin...
But according to what I'm finding, methylcobalamin is also laboratory produced and is not natural.
Nevermind. I assumed that (and hydroxy-) were the natural forms. I should have known it would not be the simple ones ;)
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I've got a fairly substantial supply of Potassium ferricyanide. Darn handy stuff to have around.
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Methyl group?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Cobalamin.png/200px-Cobalamin.png)
Yeah, the "R." "R" is the standard shorthand for any CHn chain. Methyl, -CH3, is the shortest one. The next one up is "ethyl," -C2H5, then "propyl," then "butyl," and so on. IIRC, these are called "aliphatics," and with many Cs, an "aliphatic chain," but yer talkin' 65+ year old memory from this old coot.
Terry
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Yeah, the "R." "R" is the standard shorthand for any CHn chain. Methyl, -CH3, is the shortest one. The next one up is "ethyl," C2 H5, then "propyl," then "butyl," and so on.
Interesting. I didn't know that. Of course, I barely passed 11th grade high school chemistry.... but mostly that had to do with several large flashes and clouds of smoke... No one can remember hearing any explosions, but we were all deaf afterwards, so it didn't really matter...
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Interesting. I didn't know that. Of course, I barely passed 11th grade high school chemistry.... but mostly that had to do with several large flashes and clouds of smoke... No one can remember hearing any explosions, but we were all deaf afterwards, so it didn't really matter...
You tickled my memory and made me grin.... remind me to tell you about the time someone snuck a few drops of ether in that good old lycopodium dust 'splosion experiment.
Suffice to say the 'splosive "yield" from the ether was far greater than the 'splosive "yield" from the lycopodium. Ref, if you will, "Fuel-Air-Explosive."
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Trust me, I've had more than my fair share of fun with FAEs... My best friend and I growing up had a very great propensity for blowing *expletive deleted*it up.
Fortunately they lived on a farm. I'm sure the crap we did wouldn't have gone over quite so well at my place, which was in town.