Transgender via Peer Pressure

[Ben]

This shouldn't be surprising in today's not only social media, but media in general. I mentioned recently that it felt like Netflix, et al were shoving "gay" down my throat like a San Francisco gay pride parade. Only overtly showing gay relationships in some shows while making all other cast practically asexual. Then we have Disney looking at putting gay relationships into their kids shows. Which leads to two links:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/30/brown-u-pulls-gender-dysphoria-study-worried-that-findings-might-invalidate-perspectives-transgender-community.html

Brown University recognizes the "peer pressure" aspect, so they suppress it.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/28/boy-9-commits-suicide-after-coming-out-gay-bullied-by-classmates-mom.html

Nine year old kills himself after "coming out" as gay. How does a nine year old prepubescent kid decide he's "gay" without some kind of external influence? They are blaming bullies for his suicide, and I'm sure that was a part of it. But I also believe it was social influence that made him think "coming out" might be a reasonable thing to do, because "gay" is popular, even if he really didn't know what that meant.

Social forcing of this stuff, especially to kids in the single digit years, is going to only get worse. The way they are doing it, they are (Marvel already has) creating things like gay superheroes that focus on gay, so kids no longer think, "I want to be a hero", they think, "I want to be gay" because that's the part of "gay superhero" that's pushed. It might not be the case if they did it as "a superhero that happens to be gay", but they don't. They want to push it as "a gay person who's a superhero", but first and foremost, they're gay - "it's really cool to be gay, kids".

[makattak]

This shouldn't be surprising in today's not only social media, but media in general. I mentioned recently that it felt like Netflix, et al were shoving "gay" down my throat like a San Francisco gay pride parade. Only overtly showing gay relationships in some shows while making all other cast practically asexual. Then we have Disney looking at putting gay relationships into their kids shows. Which leads to two links:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/30/brown-u-pulls-gender-dysphoria-study-worried-that-findings-might-invalidate-perspectives-transgender-community.html

Brown University recognizes the "peer pressure" aspect, so they suppress it.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/28/boy-9-commits-suicide-after-coming-out-gay-bullied-by-classmates-mom.html

Nine year old kills himself after "coming out" as gay. How does a nine year old prepubescent kid decide he's "gay" without some kind of external influence? They are blaming bullies for his suicide, and I'm sure that was a part of it. But I also believe it was social influence that made him think "coming out" might be a reasonable thing to do, because "gay" is popular, even if he really didn't know what that meant.

Social forcing of this stuff, especially to kids in the single digit years, is going to only get worse. The way they are doing it, they are (Marvel already has) creating things like gay superheroes that focus on gay, so kids no longer think, "I want to be a hero", they think, "I want to be gay" because that's the part of "gay superhero" that's pushed. It might not be the case if they did it as "a superhero that happens to be gay", but they don't. They want to push it as "a gay person who's a superhero", but first and foremost, they're gay - "it's really cool to be gay, kids".

We have acquaintances whose son "came out" as a girl. They were so excited and supportive of him. I believe they got him involved in girl scouts.

Well, it was probably Brownies. He was 5 at the time.

5.

They cut off contact with a number of people after a friend suggested to them that this might not be best for a 5 year old. (No, it wasn't me as I didn't have meaningful contact with them when and after this occurred.)

I'm sure that their excitement about it had NOTHING to do with his choices. (Again, he was 5. FIVE.)

[RoadKingLarry]

Yup, well passed time for a plague.

[MechAg94]

From the story on the 9 year old who committed suicide:

On Thursday, just four days after he started fourth grade at Joe Shoemaker Elementary School, Myles was dead.

The Denver Police Department told The Washington Post that officers responded to a “medical incident” at the boy's home. The 9-year-old was transported to a hospital where he was pronounced dead. It was not immediately clear how he died, but the medical examiner ruled his death as a suicide.

I would really like to know how this kid committed suicide.  Did he find some pills to take or something? 

"Four days is all it took at school. I could just imagine what they said to him," Pierce told the station. "My son told my oldest daughter the kids at school told him to kill himself. I’m just sad he didn’t come to me. I’m so upset that he thought that was his option."

Do any of you think the Mom should have been more aware of something happening over 4 days?  Seems to me the kid would be pretty upset if he was driven to commit suicide.  This whole thing makes me wonder what sort of family life this kid had.

[MechAg94]

On the other, it makes me think kids should be banned from social media until 18 or so. 

[brimic]

Yup, well passed time for a plague.

S.M.O.D. just to be sure.

[Scout26]

On the other, it makes me think kids should be banned from social media until 18 or so. 

This.  If it was up to me, my kids would have nothing but a flip that could only dial two numbers (me or their mother) from 13-18.  Texting, Facegram, Instabook and all that other nonsense has no place in teenage lives.

[Hawkmoon]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/28/boy-9-commits-suicide-after-coming-out-gay-bullied-by-classmates-mom.html

Nine year old kills himself after "coming out" as gay. How does a nine year old prepubescent kid decide he's "gay" without some kind of external influence? They are blaming bullies for his suicide, and I'm sure that was a part of it. But I also believe it was social influence that made him think "coming out" might be a reasonable thing to do, because "gay" is popular, even if he really didn't know what that meant.

From the article:

She said her son told her daughter that his classmates told him to take his own life.

So the mother told him it was okay that he thought he was gay, but never did anything to explain to him that other kids might not think that was cool. And what kind of upbringing did you give him, Mom, if he would actually take his own life because classmates told him to do it?

"We should have accountability for bullying. I think the child should. Because the child knows it’s wrong. The child wouldn’t want someone to do it to them. I think the parent should be held because obviously the parents are either teaching them to be like that, or they’re treating them like that," she said.

I was in third grade at nine years old. It was a small school and my class was basically homogeneous, so there weren't any cases of racial or ethnic or gender discrimination, but there was teasing. What was considered "teasing" back then would almost certainly be considered "bullying" today, but everyone managed to live through it. I honestly don't think the kids who did the most "teasing" in any way knew it was wrong, and I am not prepared to accept the notion that kids today at age nine know that "bullying" is wrong. At that age, the basic understanding of what's right and what's wrong is still being formulated.

And, of course, the mother thinks the parents of the [alleged] bullies should be held [accountable], because the mother herself certainly had no responsibility to prepare her kid for the after effects of coming out as gay.

Typical attempt to shift blame anywhere except where it belongs. "I'm certainly not responsible for what my child did. It must have been ____."

[MillCreek]

My wife now has to go to a multi-hour training every year on bullying in the schools and what to do about it as a teacher.  They have written policies, procedures and notification requirements. I suspect this is in part due to successful lawsuits against schools who failed to act upon bullying and are therefore deep pockets for the lawsuits.

[TechMan]

This.  If it was up to me, my kids would have nothing but a flip that could only dial two numbers (me or their mother) from 13-18.  Texting, Facegram, Instabook and all that other nonsense has no place in teenage lives.

This in spades.

[Ben]

Relevant story that just popped up on my newsfeed, re: teens and social media.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/aug/29/teens-desert-social-media

[MillCreek]

This.  If it was up to me, my kids would have nothing but a flip that could only dial two numbers (me or their mother) from 13-18.  Texting, Facegram, Instabook and all that other nonsense has no place in teenage lives.

My wife teaches fourth grade in a 'poor' school and she estimates at least half the students have a cell phone at that grade level.  It was a higher percentage in the 'affluent' schools in which she taught.