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Islamists training school shooters in the U.S....
« on: August 10, 2018, 02:14:13 AM »
...not a big deal, apparently.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/kids-in-desert-compound-trained-to-commit-school-shootings.html

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A man who was arrested in New Mexico last week after police raided his squalid desert compound was training the 11 malnourished children found at the site to commit school shootings, prosecutors said in court documents this week.

Siraj Ibn Wahhaj was among five adults arrested just south of the Colorado border Friday. Police also found children ranging in age from 1 to 15, along with the remains of one child.

I heard about this on today's Three Martini Lunch podcast. According to the TML hosts, the establishment media has shown very little interest in this story.

The New York Times story on it, they said, was on page 14A (not sure if that's still relevant in the internet age). When I go to the NYT site, it's rather far down on the home page, though it is the top story on their "U.S." page.

If this is really being down-played by the legacy media (I wouldn't know), that's - um - interesting. So many juicy angles here: terrorism, school shootings, a compound, kids being starved to the point that one of them died. Front page stuff, right?

Also, very interesting that this comes out right after Alex Jones (king of the school shooting conspiracy-mongers) was de-platformed. And this was, by all accounts, a black-and-white, actual, factual school shooting conspiracy. I'm guessing it's probably not the kind of conspiracy Jones is talking about, but it was a conspiracy.

As I said, I wouldn't know if they're really down-playing the story. I don't have TV at home, and I'm not in the habit of regularly scanning legacy media websites for my news. But I haven't seen any threads about it here. That suggests it's not that big a story. And that you people don't listen to the Three Martini Lunch podcast.
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Re: Islamists training school shooters in the U.S....
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2018, 02:51:48 AM »
When I first read about this when it was first coming out, they buried the names of the people towards the bottom. Was focused on the missing kid and barely mentioned anything else.
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Re: Islamists training school shooters in the U.S....
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2018, 03:56:59 AM »
First report broke I thought it would be some what in the meth Freeman white people. Second report had the names and then Fox news went back to cute white girl missing near pig farm.
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Re: Islamists training school shooters in the U.S....
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2018, 04:35:28 AM »
Previously on "Stop that Terrorist !!"  The NYPD had been surveilling Daddy's mosque, because the saw them doing bad terrorist things, like running guns, etc.  But those champions of Alex Jones' Free Speech rights, the ALCU intervened.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/08/09/report-nypd-had-surveilled-mosque-connected-to-new-mexico-compound-but-aclu-intervened/


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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2018, 07:20:36 AM »
Previously on "Stop that Terrorist !!"  The NYPD had been surveilling Daddy's mosque, because the saw them doing bad terrorist things, like running guns, etc.  But those champions of Alex Jones' Free Speech rights, the ALCU intervened.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/08/09/report-nypd-had-surveilled-mosque-connected-to-new-mexico-compound-but-aclu-intervened/


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Re: Islamists training school shooters in the U.S....
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2018, 08:52:34 AM »
Imagine the news coverage if this was connected to one of those white nationalist groups.
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Re: Islamists training school shooters in the U.S....
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2018, 09:18:40 AM »
Imagine the news coverage if this was connected to one of those white nationalist groups.

I saw quite a few tweets, responding to the story, that were blaming Trump and the NRA (because the articles' titles specifically left out the "Radical Muslim" part).

Funny how that all died off immediately.

Edit to add some sampling of the kneejerk libs: https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/08/08/go-figure-ap-leaves-something-mighty-important-out-of-these-tweets-about-n-m-child-abuse-bust/
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2018, 09:20:05 AM »
I'm surprised that this showed up on broadcast news at all, it destroys several narratives.
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2018, 09:29:27 AM »
Not sure what the articles have mentioned.  I heard they were squatting on the land and the owners had been trying to get them removed.  This link indicates one of the adults may have owned land, but the location of the compound was in dispute.  Odd.
http://www.fox26houston.com/news/prosecutors-man-was-training-kids-for-school-attacks

Also, the in guy in charge is the son of a guy connected to one of the World Trade Center attacks.  
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/siraj-wahhaj-arrested-amalia-new-mexico-father-imam-possible-link-1993-world-trade-center-bombing-court-documents/
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Re: Islamists training school shooters in the U.S....
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2018, 10:25:19 AM »
Oh look, there is a link to Linda Sarsour:

Children of Linda Sarsour’s mentor arrested for terrorist training camp in New Mexico

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/children-of-linda-sarsours-mentor-arrested-for-terrorist-training-camp-in-new-mexico/

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Re: Islamists training school shooters in the U.S....
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2018, 10:51:00 AM »
At least they weren't keeping children in cages, amirite?
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2018, 10:56:05 AM »
Close this thread down!  Nothing to see here!  You racists!!  Move along!
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Re: Islamists training school shooters in the U.S....
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2018, 10:52:07 AM »
http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/29/horrifying-things-medias-not-showing-new-mexico-terrorist-compound/

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Inexplicably, though, the mainstream media has moved on from this story or, in the case of CNN, has decided that terrorists-in-training make for an interesting personal-interest story.

Tweeting its article under the caption “New Mexico compound family struggled with life off the grid,” CNN linked to its sympathetic profile of the Wahhaj family living in the rural southwest. Rather than detail the circumstances surrounding the raid and the arrests of the siblings and their spouses, CNN instead painted a touching portrait of the parental figures.

“One of the men tenderly wiped the nose of a crying child,” a local resident who saw the group during a rare outing to the city told CNN. Sure, the defendants are accused of training their children to shoot up schools, CNN noted in passing, but locals’ real fear is “that the publicity around a case infused with allegations of terrorism, children abuse and faith healing might contribute to a rise in racism and Islamophobia.”

Compare this to the hate-fest "town hall" CNN set up for Dana Loesch, who does NOT train children to murder their classmates, and has NOT killed a 3-year-old.
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Re: Islamists training school shooters in the U.S....
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2018, 03:33:31 PM »
and in the latest,
a judge dropped all charges against 3 of the Mooslum extremists because the state failed to file probable cause within 10 days.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2018, 03:54:11 PM »
and in the latest,
a judge dropped all charges against 3 of the Mooslum extremists because the state failed to file probable cause within 10 days.

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2018-08-29/new-mexico-judges-weigh-dangerousness-of-compound-defendants
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Re: Islamists training school shooters in the U.S....
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2018, 05:14:30 PM »
and in the latest,
a judge dropped all charges against 3 of the Mooslum extremists because the state failed to file probable cause within 10 days.
A quick read says that was just for the child neglect charge.  They will still go for charges over the dead child and the terrorism plot.

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They were due in court Wednesday on charges of child abuse resulting in death, which could carry life sentences in connection with the death of Abdul-ghani Wahhaj. The severely disabled boy's badly decomposed remains were found this month inside a tunnel at the high-desert compound near the Colorado state line.
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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2018, 08:33:12 PM »
 Not for nothing, but if state law says they needed to provide evidence or maybe it’s justification for the charges within 10 days then the prosecutor screwed up. I don’t like it either for this case, but the judge is following the law and I can’t say I really disagree with the law in general. The charges can apparently be brought again, not dismissed with prejudice or whatever the actual real legal term is.