So, it's after 6pm EDT on May 21, 2011 and I'm still here?

[Nick1911]

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but I think the prediction was for it to be 6pm in each timezone.

[Tuco]

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but I think the prediction was for it to be 6pm in each timezone.

Ah ha,
"Rolling Rapture"

[lee n. field]

Sweet!  So all I have to do to prevent rapture from happening is put up a billboard on I70 that warns, "rapture is tomorrow!"?

 

One of these days, when everyone's attention is distracted...

While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

[makattak]

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but I think the prediction was for it to be 6pm in each timezone.

And a massive earthquake in the Pacific to start it off.

Guess I missed all the news about that too.

It might have been starting at 6PM EDT and then rolling through time zones, but I didn't care enough to research more than seeing 6pm EDT.

[230RN]

Obviously, he didn't consult the Mayans.

His predictions don't bother me.  Orwell's predictions are what bug me.

[MechAg94]

I'm just horsing around.  Personally, I don't believe any particular mythology. (This will probably piss some people off, but I classify all religions as mythology.  It's a title, but in my mind a fitting one.  That's just me, YMMV.)

I'm just noting that if we accept Mark 13:32 as an axiom for some particular reason ( ), I think the concept of staving off disaster by having some random person driving down the freeway thinking "Hey, maybe rapture is tomorrow... huh." to be hilarious.

But I have no dog in this fight.  My personal beliefs don't include rapture ever happening.

Some random guy making a guess is hardly the same thing.

Either way, I would hardly count it as a disaster myself.  The way I was taught, you would then have 7 more years or so to figure out what you were going to do.

It doesn't matter much to me.  I don't know when it is and I have no control over it so it isn't worth worrying about one way or the other. 

[CNYCacher]

Ah, kk.

If I might inquire, what do you make of the passage?  Just curious what your take is.

Simply that no one can predict when the rapture might happen.  Like you can't predict a dice roll.  I don't think the passage means to say that when it happens, no one on earth would have wondered if it was going to happen that day.  Simply that if anyone claims to know the time of the rapture, you shouldn't believe them.

[TommyGunn]

 

D'oh!  This means the Mayans were right after all . . . . . . . . . 

[Perd Hapley]

I think the concept of staving off disaster by having some random person driving down the freeway thinking "Hey, maybe rapture is tomorrow... huh." to be hilarious.

Actually, it's not disaster. It's the part of the movie where the good guy wins. (The good guy being Christ.)

[Hawkmoon]

Ah ha,
"Rolling Rapture"

Is that the name for the rerun of the Rolling Thunder Revue?

[Lennyjoe]

I went out this morning and test fired my newly built AR-15 in 7.62x39 just in case I was left behind and had to shoot some zombies. 

[grislyatoms]

Ah ha,
"Rolling Rapture"

I found that concept interesting as well. G-D reckons time by the limitations of the cycles of a single planet in a single solar system when there is the whole universe to reckon time by? That's awfully shallow, from a "G-D" perspective.

[Tuco]

Is that the name for the rerun of the Rolling Thunder Revue?

You gotta serve somebody.

[HeroHog]

Matthew 24:36 Jesus Speaking;
36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only."

King James Version: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Matthew 7:15-20
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruits you will recognize them."

[Tallpine]

I found that concept interesting as well. G-D reckons time by the limitations of the cycles of a single planet in a single solar system when there is the whole universe to reckon time by? That's awfully shallow, from a "G-D" perspective.

Solar cycles are a vestigal time measurement.

[seeker_two]

Matthew 24:36 (The Message version) "But the exact day and hour? No one knows that, not even heaven's angels, not even the Son. Only the Father knows. "


I pretty much go with the premise that, if a person predicts that the Rapture or TEOTWAWKI on a certain date, then I'm sure that it WON'T be that date.....

BTW, if you consider the Rapture or TEOTWAWKI as a bad thing, you might want to look hard at a few things....just sayin'.....

[p12]

Ah ha,
"Rolling Rapture"

or the "rapture wave"

News reports this morning are nobody knows where he is at.  I guess he has no coment. And then some of the idiots that were following him are talking about sueing.

Please put me on that jury.

[grislyatoms]

Solar cycles are a vestigal time measurement.

and she didn't get him anything.

[Perd Hapley]

News reports this morning are nobody knows where he is at.

See? He was right! I guess we'd better join up with this guy:

[RocketMan]

Brad, you didn't tell us you were in that Left Behind movie.

[230RN]

I'm genuinely curious about something:

seeker_two quoted:

"Matthew 24:36 (The Message version) 'But the exact day and hour? No one knows that, not even heaven's angels, not even the Son. Only the Father knows. '"

If only the Father knows, does that compromise the concept of the co-equality of the Trinity?

Or am I misunderstanding the concept of the Trinity?

Not trying to start a fight here, just wondering about it.

Honest curiosity.

Really.

Terry, 230RN

[Perd Hapley]

You can't fool me. You're trying to start somethin! I just know it!

I guess it depends on whether you think the Son not knowing something makes Him unequal. I could see why you think so.

Another angle to consider is that Christ said that while on earth, in an earthly body. That is, He had chosen to limit Himself, or to lay aside certain prerogatives enjoyed by a spiritual, divine being. Perhaps when He said that He didn't know, He meant that He had left that knowledge behind in the heavenly realms.

Or, if He could choose to limit Himself while on earth, He can also limit Himself for all of human history. Perhaps, for some reason we may not be able to discern, He chooses not to know the date and time of His return until the Father says it's go time.

Or, if you want to jump a bit further down the rabbit-hole, consider this. The Son is an eternal, uncreated being who chooses to enter the limitations of a temporal existence. Perhaps this temporal limitation is still with Him, as a resurrected man, and will not be lifted until the end of time (the Second Coming, the Last Judgment, whatever).

[Tallpine]

"Matthew 24:36 (The Message version) 'But the exact day and hour? No one knows that, not even heaven's angels, not even the Son. Only the Father knows. '"

If only the Father knows, does that compromise the concept of the co-equality of the Trinity?

Or am I misunderstanding the concept of the Trinity?

Your bible is broken.

It doesn't make any sense.

 

[230RN]

Another angle to consider is that Christ said that while on earth, in an earthly body. That is, He had chosen to limit Himself, or to lay aside certain prerogatives enjoyed by a spiritual, divine being. Perhaps when He said that He didn't know, He meant that He had left that knowledge behind in the heavenly realms.

Actually, OK, that kind of explains it, once you pointed it out. After all, he remained mortal and hence vulnerable, and hence at least a little "ungodlike," during the Passion.

Really, really, I wasn't trying to start something.

TNX

Terry, 230RN

[Perd Hapley]

Really, really, I wasn't trying to start something.

"I am not the stuff-disturber you're looking for."