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NYPD is really the FBI
« on: July 25, 2012, 08:00:42 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/confused-911-caller-outs-nypd-spying-nj-084732106.html

once again the long arm of the nypd extends beyond its limits.  on aroutine inspection, a  NJ building super finds one apartment with almost nothing but nypd police radios.  he reports this to the local police as he thinks it suspicious.  turns out the NYPD is conducting surveilence of muslim groups outside of the city (and state) borders.
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2012, 09:02:06 AM »
I'm still waiting for a jurisdiction to arrest a few NYPD cops doing this for impersonating a police officer.....
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2012, 09:07:26 AM »
Deja vu? Is this a new case or a rerun of old news, because I swear I heard this before...
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2012, 09:33:07 AM »
Quote from: Blakenzy on July 25, 2012, 09:07:26 AM
Deja vu? Is this a new case or a rerun of old news, because I swear I heard this before...

AP sued and got more information. What the story doesn't mention is CIA advisers were assisting the NYPD. Which violates quite a few laws.

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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2012, 09:40:40 AM »
Quote from: RevDisk on July 25, 2012, 09:33:07 AM
AP sued and got more information. What the story doesn't mention is CIA advisers were assisting the NYPD. Which violates quite a few laws.
Call Eric Holder!!!
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2012, 10:50:30 AM »
Well, this makes perfect sense.  There's Americans... and then there's New Yorkers.  As in city-folk, not the rest of the lot.

A New York building is worth any 3 States.

A New Yorker's life is worth the same as those of an entire town, west of the Mississippi.

It just stands to reason that the NYPD work hand in hand with the rest of its peer special forces agencies. ;/
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2012, 05:44:23 PM »
I was born in NYC many years ago, and have not been there for a long time.

Bloomie disgusts me as a mayor, and is one of the biggest hypocrites that I have ever seen.

His Storm Troopers of the NYPD are ridiculous, and not needed.

I find his anti-gun stance laughable  with all of the armament he loads this department with.

NYPD is truly an example of what life in controlled Hell would be like.

Stop and Frisk my *expletive deleted*ss....
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2012, 05:58:13 PM »
The "funny" thing is that a few years back I wrote a novel about a secret division of DHS, called Domestic Affairs Division or DAD.  It had secret safe houses and everything.

Too late to publish it now, I guess  :facepalm:
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2012, 06:25:09 PM »
If new Yorkers are ok with wasting their money....fine.  I highly doubt the NYPD could be operating like this without the host state's approval.
What bothers me is that NYC receives boocoo federal anti terror funds.  We are subsidizing this behavior. If we could cut federal funding for all this crap Bloomberg would have to turn people upside down and shake the change from their pockets.....
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2012, 07:02:17 PM »
Quote from: Jamisjockey on July 25, 2012, 06:25:09 PM
If new Yorkers are ok with wasting their money....fine.  I highly doubt the NYPD could be operating like this without the host state's approval.

Normally I would agree, but I seem to remember reading about several instances where NYPD was doing something clandestine in other states. At least once for Bloomberg's gun control, and then for some other stuff - maybe "terrorism"?
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2012, 09:03:27 PM »
Quote from: Ben on July 25, 2012, 07:02:17 PM
Normally I would agree, but I seem to remember reading about several instances where NYPD was doing something clandestine in other states. At least once for Bloomberg's gun control, and then for some other stuff - maybe "terrorism"?

When caught they should be charged with it. Shame on the states for "professional courtesy".
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2012, 10:12:27 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2012, 10:24:18 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2012, 11:09:02 PM »
Quote from: Ben on July 25, 2012, 07:02:17 PM
Normally I would agree, but I seem to remember reading about several instances where NYPD was doing something clandestine in other states. At least once for Bloomberg's gun control, and then for some other stuff - maybe "terrorism"?
they had permission  sorta
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2012, 05:06:00 AM »
Quote from: Tallpine on July 25, 2012, 05:58:13 PM
The "funny" thing is that a few years back I wrote a novel about a secret division of DHS, called Domestic Affairs Division or DAD.  It had secret safe houses and everything.

Too late to publish it now, I guess  :facepalm:

sounds like perfect timing
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2012, 10:30:50 AM »
Quote from: geronimotwo on July 26, 2012, 05:06:00 AM
sounds like perfect timing

I dunno ... back then it would have been "tinfoil" and today it would be "not original"

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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2012, 02:23:06 PM »
I think this gives you a good foundation in reality for that novel, you can base it of such real events as this, and extrapolate from it, what it will be like in coming years. We all know it's going to get bad, you show us just how bad.
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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2012, 03:13:47 PM »
Quote from: Ben on July 25, 2012, 07:02:17 PM
Normally I would agree, but I seem to remember reading about several instances where NYPD was doing something clandestine in other states. At least once for Bloomberg's gun control, and then for some other stuff - maybe "terrorism"?

Some PA sheriffs has stated they will arrest the NYPD for illegal behavior. Due to the structure of our state and our traditions, the State cannot overrule said arrests. Our politicians aren't happy with the NYPD doing illegal straw purchases, and if they are conducting illegal wiretapping...  Yep. If they're lucky, they get arrested by the State Police. If they're unlucky, they get arrested by a county sheriff. I'd prefer the arrest was done by our 56th Stryker Brigade.

From what I understand, they vastly understated their activity to NJ. When they were caught, the full extent of their activities were relieved and Cristie was not happy.
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2012, 03:16:28 PM »
Quote from: Blakenzy on July 26, 2012, 02:23:06 PM
I think this gives you a good foundation in reality for that novel, you can base it of such real events as this, and extrapolate from it, what it will be like in coming years. We all know it's going to get bad, you show us just how bad.

orwell did that once,  and it's getting worse than he imagined.  i don't think anyone at that time would have believed it.   is this one of those "life imitating art" moments?  
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2012, 04:04:53 PM »
Quote from: geronimotwo on July 26, 2012, 03:16:28 PM
orwell did that once,  and it's getting worse than he imagined.  i don't think anyone at that time would have believed it.   is this one of those "life imitating art" moments?  

And Ayn Rand.  And Matthew Bracken.  And John Ross.
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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2012, 05:01:36 PM »
Quote from: Jamisjockey on July 25, 2012, 09:03:27 PM
When caught they should be charged with it. Shame on the states for "professional courtesy".

More like professional collusion.
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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2012, 09:26:15 PM »
Remember the case of the NJ cops speeding home with lights and sirens after Katrina? Some VA sheriff made them stop.
Supposedly most of the other agencies drove home around the speed limit.
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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2012, 10:15:45 PM »
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