COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread

[WLJ]

You have to sign it to find out what's in it

[sumpnz]

Boeing halting Puget Sound production for 2 weeks.

[MillCreek]

Boeing has just announced they are suspending all Puget Sound production for 14 days, starting on March 25th.  10 days of that will be paid.  Boeing is one of the main economic drivers for Washington state, so this will be interesting.

[charby]

Looks like it has gone back to the house, and it's now green new deal and a boatload of other non-pandemic stuff being added to the already 1800 pages.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/03/23/disgusting-heres-how-nancy-pelosi-is-using-house-dems-covid19-stimulus-bill-to-put-a-gun-to-the-head-of-america-right-now/

All bullscat, house is adjorned and in recess

http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx

[MillCreek]

We went to the local Walmart Supercenter this morning, arriving at 15 minutes after opening at 0700.  They actually had toilet paper and paper towels on the shelves, albeit it was gone by 0800. We scored a multi-pack of Cottonelle.  The canned vegetables, beans and soups were pretty sparse and I picked up the last bag of AP flour and there were 20 bags of sugar left on the shelf. I also got the last pail of cat litter.  Ample supplies of all produce but minimal amounts of meat and chicken. I was able to score two pounds of ground beef to make a batch of chili.

[Ben]

All bullscat, house is adjorned and in recess

http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx

Different bill:

House Dems circulate 1,119-page stimulus bill - entitled the Take Responsibility for Workers and Families Act - that Pelosi will introduce this afternoon

[Cliffh]

One of the Dallas plumbing companies is advertising a free roll of TP with every service job. :)

[charby]

Different bill:

and not going to happen in the immediate future

Last Floor Action:
 11:33:55 A.M. - The Speaker announced that the House do now recess. The next meeting is subject to the call of the Chair.

[charby]

and from https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/32320

NewsroomPelosi Statement Ahead of Unveiling of Democrats’ Third Coronavirus Response Bill






 March 23, 2020   
|  Press Release   





Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi released this statement ahead of the unveiling of House Democrats’ third coronavirus response bill, the Take Responsibility for Workers and Families Act:

“The Senate Republicans’ bill, as presented, put corporations first, not workers and families.  Today, House Democrats will unveil a bill that takes responsibility for the health, wages and well-being of America’s workers: the Take Responsibility for Workers and Families Act.

“Democrats Take Responsibility:
•For our workers and small businesses: our bill requires that any corporation that takes taxpayer dollars must protect their workers’ wages and benefits – not CEO pay, stock buybacks or layoffs.  It gives our small businesses fast relief with grants and loans to tide them through this crisis.  And it strengthens Unemployment Insurance so that it can replace the average wages of our workers who are losing their jobs and hours.
•For our doctors, nurses, health care workers and first responders: It gives hospitals and other health institutions the desperately needed funds to provide treatment and care to all those who are sick and to ensure they have the Personal Protective Equipment to protect health care workers and first responders.  It protects our health care workers by requiring the Administration to enforce our stronger Occupational Safety and Health Administration protections.  At the same time, it calls for the president to invoke the Defense Production Act immediately.
•For our families: It gives direct payments to America’s families in a robust way and strengthens Child Tax Credits and the Earned Income Tax Credit.  It gives more workers the security of guaranteed paid family and medical leave, including those caring for our seniors.  And it makes coronavirus treatment free for the patient.
•For our students: Pumps nearly $40 billion into schools and universities, with $30 billion directly provided to states to help them stabilize their funding for schools and nearly $10 billion to help alleviate the harm caused by coronavirus on higher education institutions, while providing them with added flexibility to continue operating during the crisis.  The legislation also helps current borrowers with their student debt burden and GI bill benefits.  We also bolster SNAP and other initiatives to address food insecurity.
•For our Democracy: Ensures that states can carry out this year’s election with billions in grant funding for states through the Election Assistance Commission and a national requirement for both 15 days of early voting and no-excuse absentee vote-by-mail, including mailing a ballot to all registered voters in an emergency.

“I am grateful to our Committee Chairs and members for their extraordinary work for America’s workers and families.  Because of the Senate Democrats,  progress has been made.  We urge the Senate to move closer to the values in the Take Responsibility for Workers and Families Act.”

[Ben]

and not going to happen in the immediate future

Good. Maybe it will die.

[Cliffh]

Good. Maybe it will die.

Same here.  I'm not seeing a lot to like in Pelosi's statement.

[zxcvbob]

I'm old enough to goto Walmart tomorrow when it opens an hour early just for seniors.  Ugh, 06:00.  I'll need to have everybody here make a shopping list for me to make it worth the effort.  (meat, peroxide, 8 or so rolls of TP, fresh produce, get Mom's glasses fixed, etc)  I dont know why they sell out of peroxide; maybe because it's next to the rubbing alcohol?

And I wonder if I can get some kind of credentials for my younger brother to use when I go back to MN so he can get in early; he's not 60 yet but he's close, and he's caring for my almost-90 parents.

20 more days to Easter, when I can have a beer again.  Doing without hasn't been all *that* hard but I'm looking forward to it.

[sumpnz]

^^^ Got the ingredients for a couple batches of homebrew.

[charby]

Winnebago Industries is temporary closing factories for the foreseeable future and going to pay 5000 employees two weeks pay and benefits.

Winnebago has factories in counties along the IA and MN border, seems like there are recent positive Covid-19 people in those counties with factories.

https://www.kimt.com/content/news/Winnebago-to-temporarily-suspend-production-569023461.html

[lee n. field]

One Boeing worker in Everett has died from the Wuhan virus.

2 people at my worksite are "presumed positive" for it now too.  My ride was working in their area on Friday.

what's that mean for you with your health situation?

[TechMan]

Well...the rumor is that there's been some incidents in the local high end grocery store parking lot (Wegman's).  Apparently there's now a permanent police presence. 
I found it odd that very recently, the county put some of those solar powered cameras in the Walmart parking lot...like early Feb they suddenly appeared...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/blue-flashing-lights-in-walmart-parking-lot-are-crime-fighters/ar-BBYDMH0

[sumpnz]

what's that mean for you with your health situation?

I don't think seizures, or PD, puts me at any higher risk than the general public.  I'll look that up though to be sure.

My wife has Celiac's and in general a weaker immune system than I do.  I'd honestly be more worried if she got it.

[tokugawa]

 The Madness of Crowds. Hysteria in the Age of the Internet. Or like some guy (and I wish I knew who) once said,
"occasionally, entire societies go batshit crazy".  

 ^^ That is the charitable view.  aka accidental hysteria. The other one is we are being played deliberately.

 We are treating a hangnail with a chainsaw, destroying lives and jobs and social structures and most likely all our civil liberties,
 enabling and cheering on vast government expansions of power, for a virus. A virus with a minuscule mortality rate.


Our ancestors survived polio, smallpox, scarlet fever and a host of other ills without antibiotics or anesthesia,  and I suspect would be sickened to their core over how a bunch moderns willingly give up the country they built with their efforts.


 "A Republic, if you can keep it."

[fifth_column]

I dont know why they sell out of peroxide; maybe because it's next to the rubbing alcohol?

I read somewhere peroxide is effective at killing this virus.  Probably others as well.

20 more days to Easter, when I can have a beer again.  Doing without hasn't been all *that* hard but I'm looking forward to it.

And now I'm thirsty for a beer . . . .

[sumpnz]

I don't think seizures, or PD, puts me at any higher risk than the general public.  I'll look that up though to be sure.

My wife has Celiac's and in general a weaker immune system than I do.  I'd honestly be more worried if she got it.

So a quick perusal of an epilepsy site and a PD site indicated I'm not at any higher risk of contracting the disease.  Note that some people with one or both diagnoses can have higher risks, but that depends on things like the medications they're taking and other factors specific to their experience with the disease.  

However, I could be at increased risk of additional seizures if I get Covid-19 (or any severe illness).  PD can also be made worse but again, other illnesses can do that too.  It just depends on many personal factors.

[BlueStarLizzard]

So a quick perusal of an epilepsy site and a PD site indicated I'm not at any higher risk of contracting the disease.  Note that some people with one or both diagnoses can have higher risks, but that depends on things like the medications they're taking and other factors specific to their experience with the disease.  

However, I could be at increased risk of additional seizures if I get Covid-19 (or any severe illness).  PD can also be made worse but again, other illnesses can do that too.  It just depends on many personal factors.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. You may want to contact you're doctor and see if there are any options for emergency anti seizure drugs if you get it or a kit with something your wife can stab you with if you go into a bad one.

[K Frame]

I made a trip south this weekend to Castle Key's place. I left Seren there.

My daycare options for her are getting more limited quickly.

Not sure what would happen if a shelter in place order is given -- my job is considered essential to national security and I could be designated as essential. That would leave me in a serious bind if I were still required to work but couldn't get care for Seren.

So, as much as I hated to do it, Seren's now on vacation.

[zxcvbob]

^^^ Got the ingredients for a couple batches of homebrew.

A little over a month ago I brewed an experimental wheat beer using loaves of cheap white bread for half of the grist.  When I bottled it, it was still cloudy and had very little flavor.  When I sampled one just before Lent, it was still kind of green and not fully carbonated, and it tasted overpoweringly of orange peel and coriander -- I didn't think I used all that much orange or coriander.  I'm curious to see how it turns out with a little age.

I have over 100 lbs of malt in my basement and several pounds of hops in the freezer.  That kinda fits the prepping thread, right? 8)

[RocketMan]

The Madness of Crowds. Hysteria in the Age of the Internet. Or like some guy (and I wish I knew who) once said,
"occasionally, entire societies go batshit crazy".  

 ^^ That is the charitable view.  aka accidental hysteria. The other one is we are being played deliberately.

 We are treating a hangnail with a chainsaw, destroying lives and jobs and social structures and most likely all our civil liberties,
 enabling and cheering on vast government expansions of power, for a virus. A virus with a minuscule mortality rate.


Our ancestors survived polio, smallpox, scarlet fever and a host of other ills without antibiotics or anesthesia,  and I suspect would be sickened to their core over how a bunch moderns willingly give up the country they built with their efforts.


 "A Republic, if you can keep it."

Preach it, brother!  You speak much wisdom.  Just be prepared to be castigated by a few folks on here.

[RoadKingLarry]

Preach it, brother!  You speak much wisdom.  Just be prepared to be castigated by a few folks on here.

We need to split off in to tribes.
On one side of the island, The howler monkeys of doom. On the other side of the island, The Chip Diller fan club.