COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread

[Ben]

Actually a warmer damper environment would be better for human pathogen survivability outside a host. Winters are bad for us since our bodies are already stressed with keeping warm.

That's not what they're saying about the beer virus.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-humidity-may-affect-covid-19-outcome

[charby]

That's not what they're saying about the beer virus.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-humidity-may-affect-covid-19-outcome

From the article you linked

However, the researchers note that too much outdoor humidity can also support viral spread. For instance, in tropical areas, airborne droplets that contain the virus fall on indoor surfaces, where the virus can survive for longer periods.

[Ben]

From the article you linked

Also from the article:

First, they say that when cold, dry air comes indoors and is warmed, the relative humidity indoors drops by about 20%. Such a drop in humidity makes it easier for airborne viral particles to travel.

That said, the review concludes that studies in mice suggest that a relative humidity of 40–60% is ideal for containing the virus.

“That’s why I recommend humidifiers during the winter in buildings,” says the study’s senior author.

Other studies in mice also found that an environment of 50% relative humidity contributed to good viral clearance and an efficient immune response.

40%-60% humidity doesn't happen east of the short grass prairie in the US during the summer.

[BobR]

As a general rule heat and humidity is not good for viruses. They are encased in a lipid layer that breaks down in heat and humidity. Influenza breaks down about 80 degrees but SARS if I recall takes about 130 degrees. This one may be more like SARS, only time and research will tell.

bob

[K Frame]

"but SARS if I recall takes about 130 degrees."

That's interesting and telling, given where SARS and MERS are thought to have originated.

[RocketMan]

Some average Americans' thoughts on the corona virus.

[charby]

Also from the article:

40%-60% humidity doesn't happen east of the short grass prairie in the US during the summer.

Sorry, hit the wrong button my reply Ben.

[charby]

As a general rule heat and humidity is not good for viruses. They are encased in a lipid layer that breaks down in heat and humidity. Influenza breaks down about 80 degrees but SARS if I recall takes about 130 degrees. This one may be more like SARS, only time and research will tell.

bob

SARS, MERS, and Covid-19 are all coronaviruses.

[Ben]

Sorry, hit the wrong button my reply Ben.

Yeah, sure. I knew you worked for CNN.  

[BobR]

SARS, MERS, and Covid-19 are all coronaviruses.

As is the common cold and and other respiratory illnesses. There are presently 7 coronavirus types that can cause illness in humans. More in animals that will someday probably jump to humans. I can't help but have this nagging feeling that there was a lot of research into SARS and MERS that was defunded once the acute phase of the diseases passed. I can't prove it or find anything about it, just a gut feeling.

bob

[WLJ]

Wait, what?
On one hand I can understand why they're doing this but on the other hand no. Is this even legal?

“The form says they are preemptively deducting funds from our paychecks. That number is based on what they’re anticipating the government relief fund to be,” a worker for the company told KXAN. The worker asked not to be identified in this investigation so as not to impact his company’s ability to continue doing business.

The company would also take half of the $500 stipend allotted for dependents under the bill.

Texas company looking to dock paychecks for those receiving stimulus checks
https://wgno.com/news/health/coronavirus/texas-company-looking-to-dock-paychecks-for-those-receiving-stimulus-checks-tmw/

[charby]

As is the common cold and and other respiratory illnesses. There are presently 7 coronavirus types that can cause illness in humans. More in animals that will someday probably jump to humans. I can't help but have this nagging feeling that there was a lot of research into SARS and MERS that was defunded once the acute phase of the diseases passed. I can't prove it or find anything about it, just a gut feeling.

bob

Most common colds are rhinoviruses.

I don't disagree with you on you defunding research on SARS and MERS. Yep, more diseases are going to be problems are the world keeps getting smaller. Easy to see in plant pests and diseases (part of my career).

[bedlamite]

As is the common cold and and other respiratory illnesses. There are presently 7 coronavirus types that can cause illness in humans. More in animals that will someday probably jump to humans. I can't help but have this nagging feeling that there was a lot of research into SARS and MERS that was defunded once the acute phase of the diseases passed. I can't prove it or find anything about it, just a gut feeling.

bob

https://youtu.be/aXW9cDN0IpY?t=160

[charby]

Wait, what?
On one hand I can understand why they're doing this but on the other hand no. Is this even legal?

Texas company looking to dock paychecks for those receiving stimulus checks
https://wgno.com/news/health/coronavirus/texas-company-looking-to-dock-paychecks-for-those-receiving-stimulus-checks-tmw/

I think we are going to see a lot of very ugly court cases in the future addressing things like this. Lawyers are going to get rich.

I also think if the Covid-19 lockdowns continue you're going to see a labor movement uprising again.

[WLJ]

Obviously if Hillary was president stuff like this wouldn't happen seems to be the MSM spin on this

They're reading my mind! Need mor tin-foil! 

WaPo contributor checks out how the COVID-19 pandemic is going on Earth 2 with President Hillary Clinton
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/04/09/wapo-contributor-checks-out-how-the-covid-19-pandemic-is-going-on-earth-2-with-president-hillary-clinton/

[lee n. field]

They're reading my mind! Need mor tin-foil! 

WaPo contributor checks out how the COVID-19 pandemic is going on Earth 2 with President Hillary Clinton
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/04/09/wapo-contributor-checks-out-how-the-covid-19-pandemic-is-going-on-earth-2-with-president-hillary-clinton/

I picture alternate Earth* President HRC with a wheezing Darth Vader breathing mask, and a powered exoskeleton providing medical support.


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*S. M. Stirling's Draka-verse, perhaps?

[Hawkmoon]

"Reporting residents and businesses will not be required to donate their supplies of personal protective equipment, but county officials encourage them to do so..."

Yeah, sure.  And if not enough residents donate PPE, men with guns will eventually come to confiscate it.

For what it's worth, I read the actual order. There is an exception for individuals possessing quantities far greater than what I would expect even the most ardent prepper to keep on hand.

That doesn't mitigate my concerns about the .gov stealing supplies from entities that purchased them for their own needs, but at least I don't think it's going to result in the SWAT team kicking down your grandmother's door at oh-dark-thirty because she has three masks and she's only "allowed" to have one.

[Hawkmoon]

40%-60% humidity doesn't happen east of the short grass prairie in the US during the summer.

Say WHAAAT?

You have obviously never lived on the east coast.

https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/US/humidity-by-state-in-summer.php

[Angel Eyes]

[K Frame]

"40%-60% humidity doesn't happen east of the short grass prairie in the US during the summer."

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Having lived in Washington, DC, metro for the past 30 years I can definitively tell you that it is a GLORIOUSLY REFRESHING summer day if the humidity drops below 60% goddamned percent.

Most of the time around here in the summer the humidity is so thick that it's easier to breath at the bottom of a swimming pool.

The average... AVERAGE relative humidity in July in DC is 67%, and a significant portion of the time it is well in excess of that at the hottest part of the day.

In the days before air conditioning many European nations considered a diplomatic posting to DC to be a tropical posting because summers were so brutal here.

[WLJ]

Say WHAAAT?

You have obviously never lived on the east coast.

https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/US/humidity-by-state-in-summer.php

Or in Kentucky

[Ben]

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Man, that's my expression every day since February. 

[WLJ]

According to this the virus could be far more widespread than is generally known which I would guess would go along with the 80% experience little to no symptoms data

Coronavirus was detected in Massachusetts sewage at higher levels than expected, suggesting there are many more undiagnosed patients than previously known, according to a new study.

The researchers, along with a team from Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Harvard, and Brigham and Women’s Hospital, analyzed the samples and found the number of coronavirus particles was on par with if there were 2,300 people infected with the virus.

But at the time of tests, there were only 446 confirmed cases in the region, according to the study.

Coronavirus traces found in Massachusetts wastewater at levels far higher than expected
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-traces-found-in-massachusetts-wastewater-at-levels-far-higher-than-expected

[Ron]

We really need widespread antibody testing so we can get this *expletive deleted*it over with and get back to whatever sense of normality we can.

[MechAg94]

We really need widespread antibody testing so we can get this *expletive deleted*it over with and get back to whatever sense of normality we can.

Even if they don't, they need to switch over from EVERYONE sheltering in place to just those at risk and everyone else get back to business.