COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread

[MechAg94]

This.

Folks can quibble with math. You can’t really analyse away overflowing hospitals.

This isn’t just the flu and serious measures to stop it are clearly warranted. That doesn’t mean every extreme response makes sense, but it should be taken seriously and it is properly a life changing disease. If it’s not life changing because of isolation, it will be from wrecking medical systems and causing death.

So which countries is that happening in? 

[RocketMan]

Covid 19 is not collapsing hospital systems .... atleast in America.   We feared it but it isn't happening.

Yes it is.  CBS proved it by using video of an Italian hospital overflowing with CV patients to depict a New York City hospital.  After being called out for it the first time, they claimed it was an error in editing the story.
Then they doubled down and did it again for another story on hospital overcrowding.

[Hawkmoon]

Actually I don't see it as all that convenient. You still have to do paperwork, which most everyone does on a computer these days. Are they setting up a tent or something and people get out of their cars to fill out paperwork? Or are they handing people laptops? Seems like you're increasing chances of virus transmission. Regardless, I'm sure the term "drive-thru gun buying" is bursting liberal heads everywhere, so, win.

"You still have to do paperwork, which most everyone does on a computer these days." Where? I've never seen a gun shop where I could fill out a 4473 on a computer. I don't even think that's legal.

[Perd Hapley]

"You still have to do paperwork, which most everyone does on a computer these days." Where? I've never seen a gun shop where I could fill out a 4473 on a computer. I don't even think that's legal.

When I bought a lower at Cabelas last year, they were using tablet computers.

[MechAg94]

I bought an H&R revolver at Bass Pro several years ago and they had a computerized 4473.  Academy Sports uses it.  Primary Arms uses it as well if you buy at their store in Pearland, TX. 

[dogmush]

4 of the 5 FFL's I use regularly have switched over.  They even have the tablets at gunshows now.  I think I first saw it digitally circa 2016 or so.

[bedlamite]

One more possible symptom:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/heal-the-mind-heal-the-body/202004/possible-early-sign-covid-19

[Ben]

POC in New York with virus symptoms are afraid to go to the hospital because Trump will get them. 

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/04/11/aoc-says-people-in-her-district-have-coronavirus-but-are-afraid-to-go-to-the-hospital-because-of-trumps-xenophobic-covid-response/

[Ben]

"You still have to do paperwork, which most everyone does on a computer these days." Where? I've never seen a gun shop where I could fill out a 4473 on a computer. I don't even think that's legal.

Move to America, yo. I've only had one small gunshop here give me my forms hardcopy. Everyone else, including Cabelas and the like, do it on the computer.

[MechAg94]

For me, I notice it was the bigger retail outlets that went to electronic first.  I figure that must make it easier to prove the forms were filled out right and audit the critical items.  I imagine it also means they can tag the form with their inventory as well.  

Most dealers I deal with still use the paper form.  

[Fly320s]

"You still have to do paperwork, which most everyone does on a computer these days." Where? I've never seen a gun shop where I could fill out a 4473 on a computer. I don't even think that's legal.

I did two 4473s on a PC this week.  All it does is print the normal form in a readable print instead of my usual chicken scratch.  I still had to physically sign the paper copy.  I guess it also electronically submits the info to the ATF or State Police or whoever, because the gun shop never had to make a call.

[Ben]

It's being speculated here that this is one reason Sun Valley has more per capita cases than almost anywhere else in the country.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/04/11/celebrities-reportedly-fleeing-urban-coronavirus-hotspots-to-spend-time-in-flyover-country-and-people-have-thoughts/

[Hawkmoon]

I think the question is about whether the drive through counts as "on premises". There is a difference between selling a gun in the store, and selling a gun through the mail. Selling a gun through the mail usually requires the buyer to physically go to an FFL to take possession. There is a legitimate question what "physically go" means. If an FFL set up something like an Amazon locker for people to pick up guns, would that be ok? Would a drive through window be ok? Ok then what if there is a separating wall, and the buyer and seller interact over video/intercom? What if the same system is used but the buyer and seller are in different buildings or different towns? They need to clarify what remote sales means. Apparently drive-up windows and tents are kosher.

The BATFE has clarified that. Apparently, "premises" means "premises."

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/open-letter/atf-business-premises-guidance-letter-4-10-2020/download

[Jamisjockey]

When I bought the .308 at Cabelas, it was electronic 4473 there.

[Jamisjockey]

Well, we're getting $666.90 stimulus check. Got an email from my bank today.
Likely going to invest it. 

[Jamisjockey]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52196815

[Angel Eyes]

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/04/11/kentuckys-dem-governor-reminds-citizens-about-the-punishment-that-awaits-if-their-license-plate-is-spotted-outside-easter-church-services-or-other-mass-gatherings/

Apparently the drive-in church services will be allowed, at least for Easter:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/04/11/mitch-mcconnell-rand-paul-laud-judge-granting-kentucky-church-permission-to-hold-drive-in-easter-service/

[Andiron]

Well, we're getting $666.90 stimulus check. Got an email from my bank today.
Likely going to invest it. 

That's the most metal Trump Bucks check amount I've heard of yet.

[Ben]

That's the most metal Trump Bucks check amount I've heard of yet.

Trump Bucks? Hopefully they're not like Schrute Bucks.

https://youtu.be/3IYQXUfezxY

[Ron]

Trump bucks and Trump pills for the win 

[Cliffh]

Local Walmart does the 4473 on computer, including the signatures.  Use the mouse & keyboard to fill out the form, use the POS to sign.  Form is printed for local records, it's sent to BATF electronically.

[AZRedhawk44]

I watched the April 10th NBC News episode via Youtube.

There's political cranks pushing for FedGuv to manufacture 300+ million COVID tests.

The only way that's reasonable to do, is if you have a means to administer 300+ million tests.  And the authority to force non-willing subjects to take the test.

I smell a massive power grab over the makeup of the individual human body coming.

[TommyGunn]

Yes it is.  CBS proved it by using video of an Italian hospital overflowing with CV patients to depict a New York City hospital.  After being called out for it the first time, they claimed it was an error in editing the story.
Then they doubled down and did it again for another story on hospital overcrowding.

I said American  hospitals.    I don't know about other countries.   I'm not surprised about Italy .....   and I wouldn't trust most broadcast network news if they told me July follows June.   

[Perd Hapley]

I said American  hospitals.    I don't know about other countries.   I'm not surprised about Italy .....   and I wouldn't trust most broadcast network news if they told me July follows June.   

[Perd Hapley]

Apparently the drive-in church services will be allowed, at least for Easter:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/04/11/mitch-mcconnell-rand-paul-laud-judge-granting-kentucky-church-permission-to-hold-drive-in-easter-service/

My county (in MO) is OK with them. Don't know what Kentucky's problem is.

Oh, just saw this.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-ag-barr-taking-action-against-gov-officials-who-regulate-religious-services