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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #2575 on: April 23, 2020, 10:42:46 AM »
Isn't there some oath or ethic that requires DRs, RAs, EMTs, etc to at least try to resuscitate a person?  

This also reminds me of one of my favorite healthcare recommendations: everyone here should have a living will, and as you get older/sicker/terminal, a POLST form that spells out your wishes for resuscitation and other life-saving or preserving treatment. It also would not kill you to have a durable power of attorney for healthcare, if you don't have a spouse, significant other or adult children readily available.

If you spell out your wishes, that will make the risk manager's job much easier when you are in the hospital and all of your relatives have different ideas on what should be done for you.
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« Reply #2576 on: April 23, 2020, 10:57:34 AM »
The linked article has been updated at the time of this post.  The DNR orders have been rescinded.  The folks that entered the order must have pissed someone off pretty seriously to have higher ups rescind it.

I suspect it was rescinded due to optics: if you aren't putting on a good show for the onlookers and family, it looks bad.  The people running the EMS system know that rescinding the order is not going to lead to more people making a meaningful recovery, but by gosh, we are going to make it look like it will.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #2577 on: April 23, 2020, 11:02:05 AM »
This also reminds me of one of my favorite healthcare recommendations: everyone here should have a living will, and as you get older/sicker/terminal, a POLST form that spells out your wishes for resuscitation and other life-saving or preserving treatment. It also would not kill you to have a durable power of attorney for healthcare, if you don't have a spouse, significant other or adult children readily available.

If you spell out your wishes, that will make the risk manager's job much easier when you are in the hospital and all of your relatives have different ideas on what should be done for you.

You are right.

Forcing your family to make these decisions for you is cruel.

Everyone should have a living will, and explicitly tell their family their wishes.

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« Reply #2579 on: April 23, 2020, 11:37:45 AM »
"I'm a foolish old man that has been drawn into a wild goose chase by a harpy in trousers and a nincompoop."

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #2580 on: April 23, 2020, 11:52:01 AM »
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #2581 on: April 23, 2020, 12:16:26 PM »
How to make your own mask:

https://youtu.be/U4c5eo_3-y0
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« Reply #2582 on: April 23, 2020, 12:33:10 PM »
They got it from their humans, shoot the humans
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Was that what the shooter in Canada was actually doing?  ...probably too soon.
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« Reply #2583 on: April 23, 2020, 01:26:59 PM »
Everyone should have a living will, and explicitly tell their family their wishes.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #2584 on: April 23, 2020, 01:39:57 PM »
Interesting, considering the arrests in parks, beaches, etc. while things like subways get a pass.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/04/23/bam-new-study-shows-covid-19-is-not-spreading-out-of-doors-most-outbreaks-occurred-in-home-or-public-transport/

This is new? I saw this information last week.
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« Reply #2585 on: April 23, 2020, 01:48:21 PM »
How to make your own mask:

https://youtu.be/U4c5eo_3-y0


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« Reply #2586 on: April 23, 2020, 02:41:52 PM »
Am I the only one who remembers her from MadTV?

You might be the only one who remembers MadTV.
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« Reply #2587 on: April 23, 2020, 03:42:39 PM »
Appears Illinois is getting 30 more days in the hole.
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« Reply #2588 on: April 23, 2020, 04:14:16 PM »
You might be the only one who remembers MadTV.



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« Reply #2589 on: April 23, 2020, 04:35:17 PM »
The left is always hoping the youth vote will actually turn out and save them (and it never does), maybe they'll come at it from the other direction now and just try eliminating enough of the elderly vote?
An academic journal projects that deaths of 65-and-over Republican voters in several swing states will far exceed those of Democrats.

“The pandemic is going to take a greater toll on the conservative electorate leading into this election — and that’s simply just a calculation of age,” Andrew Johnson, the lead author and a professor of management at Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi, said in an interview. “The virus is killing more older voters, and in many states that’s the key to a GOP victory.”
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« Reply #2595 on: April 24, 2020, 07:40:48 AM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8249875/Wuhan-laboratory-scientists-did-absolutely-crazy-things-alter-coronavirus.html

From the article:

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'They did absolutely crazy things, in my opinion.

'For example, inserts in the genome, which gave the virus the ability to infect human cells.

'Now all this has been analysed.

'The picture of the possible creation of the current coronavirus is slowly emerging.'

He told Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper: 'There are several inserts, that is, substitutions of the natural sequence of the genome, which gave it special properties.

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It's too early to blame anyone.

Is it, though?

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« Reply #2596 on: April 24, 2020, 08:08:17 AM »
From the article:

Then later in the article:
Is it, though?

I'm sorry, back in January and February, I was told that the virus CLEARLY showed no signs of manipulation by humans, and so HAD to have come from nature.

(Whether or not either is true, I have no idea, but I was quite curious as to how they determined that information so quickly.)
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #2597 on: April 24, 2020, 08:30:46 AM »
I wouldn't trust the analysis of a Russian on the virus as far as I could throw him.  Pitting us against China takes the heat off Russia's shenanigans.
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« Reply #2598 on: April 24, 2020, 09:31:18 AM »
I'm sorry, back in January and February, I was told that the virus CLEARLY showed no signs of manipulation by humans, and so HAD to have come from nature.

(Whether or not either is true, I have no idea, but I was quite curious as to how they determined that information so quickly.)

We were also.told by the WHO back in January that the virus wasn't showing human to human transmission.
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« Reply #2599 on: April 24, 2020, 09:40:06 AM »
I wouldn't trust the analysis of a Russian on the virus as far as I could throw him.  Pitting us against China takes the heat off Russia's shenanigans.

While I tend to agree with you on the trust issue, I also think it's important to point out when someone doesn't toe the line with their official propaganda.
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