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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5877 on: September 01, 2021, 08:49:10 PM »
That's not exactly the best way to handle the situation:

https://cwbchicago.com/2021/08/security-guard-who-shot-man-3-times-acted-in-self-defense-because-the-victim-wasnt-wearing-a-covid-mask-lawyer-says.html

How does a two-time felon get a license to work as armed security?

Oh, wait! It's Chicago ... and the article didn't say he had a license to work as armed security.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5878 on: September 01, 2021, 09:12:26 PM »
Did that include snarky bastards wearing vented N95 masks getting in folks' faces?

I thought you were planning on being shot.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5879 on: September 01, 2021, 09:19:13 PM »
Getting shot is a serious possibility... I've had youts walk in the door, look around, see too many/wrong type of people, and just turn around and walk back to their vehicle. Usually backed in...
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5880 on: September 02, 2021, 10:12:30 AM »
Pfizer is fast tracking a treatment, two pills a day, for those who have been vaccinated and still get sick from Covid-19.

It doesn't replace the vaccine but is designed for those who are already vaccinated and still get infected with Covid-19.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5881 on: September 02, 2021, 10:40:36 AM »
Pfizer is fast tracking a treatment, two pills a day, for those who have been vaccinated and still get sick from Covid-19.

It doesn't replace the vaccine but is designed for those who are already vaccinated and still get infected with Covid-19.

Are we to expect their pills will work any better than their vaccine?
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5882 on: September 02, 2021, 10:48:39 AM »
Are we to expect their pills will work any better than their vaccine?

Every vaccine seems to have its limits .....
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5883 on: September 02, 2021, 10:49:33 AM »
Do ya think that there MAY be a reason why there hasn't been a vaccine for the common cold until now? I wonder what we're going to learn, science-wise, from this massive experiment...
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5884 on: September 02, 2021, 10:52:33 AM »
The "common cold"   isn't just one virus, for starters ...  .......
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5885 on: September 02, 2021, 10:55:52 AM »
Do ya think that there MAY be a reason why there hasn't been a vaccine for the common cold until now? I wonder what we're going to learn, science-wise, from this massive experiment...

Not much so far. Just wait for the fan and the pile of manure to align...

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5886 on: September 02, 2021, 11:15:33 AM »
It isn't just one virus. And coronaviruses are part of that mix...
 
They're just new, different, and just like always, when a sick geezer gets a bad cold, they go downhill fast.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5887 on: September 02, 2021, 12:45:07 PM »
Well we're about out of sick geezers for the year, so we can concentrate on the younguns that are going downhill fast.  That's handy.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5888 on: September 02, 2021, 02:25:23 PM »
Breakthrough COVID-19 cases are rising, and experts are trying to figure out exactly what that means
https://www.columbian.com/news/2021/aug/30/breakthrough-covid-19-cases-are-rising-and-experts-are-trying-to-figure-out-exactly-what-that-means/

I guess this is already being discussed.  It seems to me that vaccines work by provoking an immune response in the body.  If someone's immune system is poor or compromised, the vaccine won't work so well.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5890 on: September 02, 2021, 04:52:10 PM »
I bet these same people cheered the dogs getting shot.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/09/02/australias-next-authoritarian-move-is-so-insane-that-it-would-make-orwell-blush-n437161
I realize that is for people who tested positive, but that is some serious mess.  I predict it won't be long before the quarantine camps open.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5892 on: September 02, 2021, 05:37:48 PM »
There's fringe theories out there that the vaccines are causing amplification of the virus in at least a small percentage of people, either leading to vaccine failure or causing them to be asymptomatic but shed huge/amplified amounts of the virus or become Typhoid-mary-like permacarriers, and that this is actually what's driving the summer outbreaks, which is being blamed on the delta variant. It also would account for the push to make everyone get vaccinated, because if everyone is vaccinated then it becomes harder to identify any such problem with the vaccine, because there's no control group left. And it also explains the sudden and basically unexplained reversion to asking vaccinated people to wear masks again. The problem with the theory is that outbreaks still seem to be hitting unvaccinated people heavily. Although the CDC's incompetence in reporting any intelligible numbers, or tracking the effectiveness of the vaccines in any way that would answer people's concerns doesn't help with disproving these theories.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5893 on: September 02, 2021, 09:09:49 PM »
Of course, if it is a nasty summer cold (I bet people aren't getting those this year...) that happens to be coded enough to mimic the testing?
 
I wonder how close Covid-19abcdefghijkchefboyardee is to the covids we are used to - I'm gonna guess VERY damn close.
 
Oh, and remember the SARS scare a few  years ago? That's still out there. Only not so much.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5894 on: September 03, 2021, 09:33:19 PM »
The German government is forbidding employers from asking employees if they have been vaccinated. That may change for some "high risk" businesses, but for them proof will be vaccination, negative covid test, or proof of recovery from covid.

I still haven't seen any allowances for natural immunity in our country. We are one of the most backward, science denying countries in the world on this right now.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/german-employers-not-allowed-to-request-workers-vaccination-status-labor-minister_3980684.html
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5895 on: September 03, 2021, 10:10:36 PM »
^^^I am always interested to see how other First World countries are approaching this.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5896 on: September 03, 2021, 10:24:10 PM »
There's fringe theories out there that the vaccines are causing amplification of the virus in at least a small percentage of people, either leading to vaccine failure or causing them to be asymptomatic but shed huge/amplified amounts of the virus or become Typhoid-mary-like permacarriers, and that this is actually what's driving the summer outbreaks, which is being blamed on the delta variant. It also would account for the push to make everyone get vaccinated, because if everyone is vaccinated then it becomes harder to identify any such problem with the vaccine, because there's no control group left. And it also explains the sudden and basically unexplained reversion to asking vaccinated people to wear masks again. The problem with the theory is that outbreaks still seem to be hitting unvaccinated people heavily. Although the CDC's incompetence in reporting any intelligible numbers, or tracking the effectiveness of the vaccines in any way that would answer people's concerns doesn't help with disproving these theories.

It is not a "fringe theory".

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5897 on: September 03, 2021, 10:40:08 PM »
It is if mass media says it is fringe...
 
Anyone notice all the folks on the cruise ships and Navy ships who didn't catch it and die... DIE!!!!!!
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5898 on: September 03, 2021, 11:05:00 PM »
Yeah, I sprained my eyeballs trying to stop them from rolling when I read that blatant nonsense.

Reading this stuff is bad for one's cognitive and emotional health.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #5899 on: September 04, 2021, 12:30:39 AM »
It is not a "fringe theory".

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-healthcare-workers-threat-unvaccinated-patients-co-workers/

The paper you linked doesn't substantiate the theory in any way. The conclusion of the paper is just "delta=super contagious". They only found high viral loads in the breakthrough cases but that could just mean delta is bad which we already knew. They didn't seem to even test any unvaccinated people to see if they were any differences because of the vaccine.
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