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Move over pedobear...
« on: November 13, 2012, 03:46:16 PM »
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2012, 03:47:21 PM »
Elmo is kind of a bear, isn't he?
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2012, 04:37:51 PM »
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Quote from: some guy on Freerepublic
"Bugger Me Elmo"
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2012, 04:40:29 PM »
So you are saying there is a liklihood that "Cuddle Me Elmo" will not be hitting the shelves as the newest animated toy?

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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2012, 04:51:04 PM »
Quote from: vaskidmark on November 13, 2012, 04:40:29 PM
So you are saying there is a liklihood that "Cuddle Me Elmo" will not be hitting the shelves as the newest animated toy?

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It's actually "I've got free candy Elmo"
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2012, 05:21:45 PM »
Quote from: Jamisjockey on November 13, 2012, 04:51:04 PM

It's actually "I've got free candy Elmo"

with optional van play set
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2012, 07:11:39 PM »
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2012, 07:22:40 PM »
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2012, 09:30:08 PM »
I will gladly recant today for 1 million dollars
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2012, 03:58:13 AM »
Aww, and I was all ready to market my "Don't touch me there" Elmo for Christmas. Pure winning, local radio plays at work, ads currently running for Sesame St. Live. Part of the voiceover is "find out what happens when Elmo gets his furry paws on Abby's wand." Oh, if we could just switch that around a wee bit.  :rofl:
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2012, 09:24:04 AM »
If you accuse somebody of something like that and then recant, are there no consequences? Accusations like that can destroy someone's life, even if later disproven.
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2012, 09:34:01 AM »
Quote from: BryanP on November 14, 2012, 09:24:04 AM
If you accuse somebody of something like that and then recant, are there no consequences? Accusations like that can destroy someone's life, even if later disproven.

What kind of consequences?  The accuser/recanter is a kid in his "early 20's".  I suppose you could lock him up for a few years, if you could prove that libel/slander are criminal, as opposed to civil, torts.  Saddling him with a crushing judgement will only encourage him to not become a self-supporting member of society who pays taxes.  I suppose he couldbe made to stand on a corner with a sign saying something about it being wrong to tell lies, but unless the sign indicated he is being made to stand there because he told a lie I don't think many people are going to notice, let alone care.  Thanks to the debtors laws we can't send him to the factory to churn out "Hug Me Elmo" dolls

You got any ideas?

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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2012, 10:26:33 AM »
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2012, 02:35:01 PM »
Quote from: vaskidmark on November 14, 2012, 09:34:01 AM

You got any ideas?


It's not easy, but there has to be something.  I've watched something like this screw somebody up badly. A friend of mine was only peripherally involved in such a case . He was questioned in regard to a child molestation case - he wasn't a suspect and had no knowledge of what had been happening, but he knew the people involved. Just the fact that he was associated with it at all caused people to treat him differently. The lady he had been dating, who happened to have an 8 year old daughter, dropped him like a rock and wouldn't even return his calls.

Screwing up someone else's life - and possibly their livelihood - over false accusations should come with some sort of consequences.
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2012, 04:29:18 PM »
Quote from: BryanP on November 14, 2012, 02:35:01 PM
It's not easy, but there has to be something.  ....

Screwing up someone else's life - and possibly their livelihood - over false accusations should come with some sort of consequences.

Well, there's always the stocks and the whipping post.

Just need to be careful in case the object of the exercise is into stuff like that, in which case wearing a suit of alternating pink & black horizontal stripes, and making long stretches of roadway litter-free, might be the best you could do.

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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2012, 10:11:58 PM »
Quote from: BryanP on November 14, 2012, 09:24:04 AM
If you accuse somebody of something like that and then recant, are there no consequences? Accusations like that can destroy someone's life, even if later disproven.

I think the term you are looking for is slander.
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2012, 08:18:16 AM »
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I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.

So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you also were meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought

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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2012, 08:24:25 AM »
Something's not passing the smell test....
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2012, 09:10:45 AM »
Quote from: adively on November 20, 2012, 08:24:25 AM
Something's not passing the smell test....

Waddyamean?  This thing stunk from the very beginning.

Oh!  You mean that smell test.

So does this mean that Elmo will be pushing Ossifer Friendly to file charges of making a false police report?  What about perjury charges for the false false statements.  (No, there is no typo there.)

 [popcorn]

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If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege.

Hey you kids!! Get off my lawn!!!

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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2012, 10:14:52 AM »
Quote from: vaskidmark on November 14, 2012, 09:34:01 AM
What kind of consequences?  The accuser/recanter is a kid in his "early 20's".  I suppose you could lock him up for a few years, if you could prove that libel/slander are criminal, as opposed to civil, torts.  Saddling him with a crushing judgement will only encourage him to not become a self-supporting member of society who pays taxes.  I suppose he couldbe made to stand on a corner with a sign saying something about it being wrong to tell lies, but unless the sign indicated he is being made to stand there because he told a lie I don't think many people are going to notice, let alone care.  Thanks to the debtors laws we can't send him to the factory to churn out "Hug Me Elmo" dolls

You got any ideas?

stay safe.

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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2012, 10:24:49 AM »
Quote from: roo_ster on November 20, 2012, 10:14:52 AM
Beatings.

If minor offenses were dealt with by things like canings and pillorying, we would save a great deal of incarceration costs.

In fact, maybe make it an option: take XXX time in jail or XXX time in the pillory or XXX number of strikes with a cane.

We could even make it so you don't miss any time from work: XXX number of weekends in the stocks.
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I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.

So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you also were meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought

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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2012, 02:33:46 PM »
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I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.

So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you also were meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought

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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2012, 03:52:42 PM »
Quote from: makattak on November 20, 2012, 02:33:46 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2012/11/20/kevin-clash-quits-elmo-gig/1716901/

Second accuser comes forward. Elmo resigns.

Second person is suing for 5 million dollars. Is that normal for an instance of "he touched me wrong when I was a kid"? I would have thought that some sort of criminal charges would be pursued for instances of that instead.
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2012, 03:56:51 PM »
Quote from: kgbsquirrel on November 20, 2012, 03:52:42 PM
Second person is suing for 5 million dollars. Is that normal for an instance of "he touched me wrong when I was a kid"? I would have thought that some sort of criminal charges would be pursued for instances of that instead.

How long is the statue of limitations for the supposed crime?  If it is outside of the limits then I would think that civil is the way to go.
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Re: Move over pedobear...
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2012, 03:59:14 PM »
Elmo love Sandusky's cell!
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