Post by: K Frame on March 22, 2008, 02:55:58 PM
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Post by: Manedwolf on March 22, 2008, 03:06:43 PM
Though the series was way, way, way, way, way better. I like SG-1 a lot. So did the Air Force.
Also, it's the only SF series I've ever seen that does logical things like:
1. Earth guys find alien hand weapon.
2. Earth guys PICK UP alien hand weapon.
3. Earth guys give alien hand weapon to military scientists.
4. A year later on the show, the alien hand weapon has been reverse-engineered, put into production with a military M-number designation, and issued to the SG troops.
Same with spaceships. Find alien fighter. Reverse engineer. Build prototype. Then have F-302 squadrons based on alien fighter.
Plus I liked the overall theme. Humans from "now", when faced with an alien threat, instead of becoming mewling sheep... instead get their s*** together, reverse-engineer stuff, struggle through prototype fits and starts, and then build comparable battlecruisers and fighters, take the fight to the aliens, and proceed to kick the crap out of said long-stagnant-technology alien threats in a galaxy-wide epic fight. They'd been sitting on their behinds with "ancient technology", we take it, innovate and make it better.
I like that.
Post by: drewtam on March 22, 2008, 03:43:29 PM
Post by: Sindawe on March 22, 2008, 03:58:22 PM
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serious, and I mean SERIOUS, contender for the worst movie ever.
Naaa...Austin Powers has that dubious distinction all wrapped up and outa here.
While Starage is not the best of films of its genera (see 'The Fifth Element'), it does work as an entertaining bit of Saturday afternoon excapism. And did give birth to an engaging and witty TV series.
As for Kurt Russel, I did rather like MacReady in 'The Thing'.
Post by: K Frame on March 22, 2008, 04:01:15 PM
God forbid I ever try to escape with that piece of absolute crap again.
The Austin Powers movies were multi-nominated, multi-win Oscar style timeless classics compared to Stargate.
Post by: Manedwolf on March 22, 2008, 04:03:13 PM
If you pay attention to guns, they did a GREAT job with period spy movie guns. I saw FALs, Beretta M12's, MP40's, Sten Mk II's...
Yay FALs!
Post by: Cromlech on March 22, 2008, 04:12:31 PM
Post by: Sergeant Bob on March 22, 2008, 04:24:41 PM
In my eyes, Kurt Russell shall always be forgiven on account of Escape from New York.
Indeed! How can you not like Snake Pliskin?
Oh, and the Austin Powers movies were smashing, baby!
Post by: seeker_two on March 22, 2008, 04:55:23 PM
Wrong Turn and Jeepers Creepers....worst movie ever. My wife made me watch both.....I'm suing Hollywood to get my four hours back....
Post by: Manedwolf on March 22, 2008, 05:02:21 PM
Santa Claus Conquers the Martians
Post by: K Frame on March 22, 2008, 05:08:28 PM
I said it's a CONTENDER for the worst movie ever made.
Not that it is the worst movie ever made.
You really oug....
Ah, to hell with it.
Everyone go back to your Tom and Jerry cartoons...
Post by: bedlamite on March 22, 2008, 05:10:23 PM
Post by: Ben on March 22, 2008, 05:16:47 PM
I liked Stargate too, though I liked the series better. Has anyone seen the new SG-1 movie? I have it in my Netflix queue, but it's marked "very long wait" (so no spoilers!)
Post by: Strings on March 22, 2008, 09:34:19 PM
I will NOT describe the movie, beyond the start: opening credits roll over a giant head floating across the screen. And it goes downhill from there.
Bedlamite, myself, and a couple other folks were at my inlaws, and pop-in-law thought this would be a good movie to watch, since it had Sean Connery (and it was post Dr No).
The next day, the same group of us filed into pop-in-law's living room, and stripped him of all remote controls. He tried appealing to mom-in-law, and she ignored him (siding with us). Yes, the movie was THAT bad...
Post by: Finch on March 23, 2008, 12:43:16 AM
serious, and I mean SERIOUS, contender for the worst movie ever.
Stargate was bad, but not horrible. t doesn't even hold a candle to piles of stink like Battlefield Earth or Daredevil.
Post by: bedlamite on March 23, 2008, 01:00:46 AM
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Post by: Ben on March 23, 2008, 06:59:26 AM
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t doesn't even hold a candle to piles of stink like Battlefield Earth or Daredevil.
Not to mention the remake of "Planet of the Apes"....
Post by: Silver Bullet on March 23, 2008, 07:16:39 AM
Post by: Ben on March 23, 2008, 07:22:55 AM
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but the last half really tanked.
I agree with that. The storyline on Earth was better than after they stepped through the gate, when it should have been the opposite.
Post by: roo_ster on March 23, 2008, 08:23:09 AM
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Post by: Gewehr98 on March 23, 2008, 09:33:59 AM
Cheesy? I watched Rock Monster on Sci-Fi last night. I could've sworn it was written by the National Lampoon folks. The only saving grace was Natalie Denise Sperl.
Post by: mtnbkr on March 23, 2008, 09:42:30 AM
Chris
Post by: K Frame on March 23, 2008, 10:06:10 AM
I figured the Arthurian "Sword in the Stone" angle would be the absolute highlight, and vowed to skip it.
Post by: Manedwolf on March 23, 2008, 10:36:07 AM
I keep recording SciFi movies in the hope that the next one will be watchable. I keep getting disappointed.
Chris
Chris
Only made-for-TV I liked recently was "Supervolcano", and that wasn't made by SciFi, it was made by BBC.
Surprisingly very good what-if if Yellowstone went up as a sequence of eruptions that collapsed the old caldera. No stupid love story, no kids-in-peril-running-away, just some really good tension. Showed you can NOT outrun a pyroclastic flow, and an airliner running into the ash cloud was handled very well. Managed to make a blind coupled-approach landing with an abraded windshield and St. Elmo's fire crackling around the radome and wing roots, with the engines whining pretty loudly and sulfurious smoke in the cabin...but it landed okay. It was just absolutely shot due to the engines ingesting ash. Plus they even mentioned calling a ground stop on all air traffic after that point.
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 23, 2008, 12:20:25 PM
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Showed you can NOT outrun a pyroclastic flow
I know, right? I tell people that all the time. But do they listen?
Post by: MechAg94 on March 23, 2008, 12:23:16 PM
My most memorable Kurt Russel movie is Soldier. I really liked that movie.
I have to agree with one post back there. The remake of Planet of the Ape was a horrible movie. Stargate doesn't even come close to contender status when faced with CGI abortions like that.
Post by: Matthew Carberry on March 23, 2008, 12:34:14 PM
There is nothing in that movie that could be improved, except, perhaps, the addition of gratuitous nudity.
Post by: roo_ster on March 23, 2008, 01:11:14 PM
Post by: Mabs2 on March 23, 2008, 01:13:35 PM
Aw, it's a fun movie!
Though the series was way, way, way, way, way better. I like SG-1 a lot. So did the Air Force.
Also, it's the only SF series I've ever seen that does logical things like:
1. Earth guys find alien hand weapon.
2. Earth guys PICK UP alien hand weapon.
3. Earth guys give alien hand weapon to military scientists.
4. A year later on the show, the alien hand weapon has been reverse-engineered, put into production with a military M-number designation, and issued to the SG troops.
Same with spaceships. Find alien fighter. Reverse engineer. Build prototype. Then have F-302 squadrons based on alien fighter.
Plus I liked the overall theme. Humans from "now", when faced with an alien threat, instead of becoming mewling sheep... instead get their s*** together, reverse-engineer stuff, struggle through prototype fits and starts, and then build comparable battlecruisers and fighters, take the fight to the aliens, and proceed to kick the crap out of said long-stagnant-technology alien threats in a galaxy-wide epic fight. They'd been sitting on their behinds with "ancient technology", we take it, innovate and make it better.
I like that.
You'd like the game X-COM: UFO Defense
Though the series was way, way, way, way, way better. I like SG-1 a lot. So did the Air Force.
Also, it's the only SF series I've ever seen that does logical things like:
1. Earth guys find alien hand weapon.
2. Earth guys PICK UP alien hand weapon.
3. Earth guys give alien hand weapon to military scientists.
4. A year later on the show, the alien hand weapon has been reverse-engineered, put into production with a military M-number designation, and issued to the SG troops.
Same with spaceships. Find alien fighter. Reverse engineer. Build prototype. Then have F-302 squadrons based on alien fighter.
Plus I liked the overall theme. Humans from "now", when faced with an alien threat, instead of becoming mewling sheep... instead get their s*** together, reverse-engineer stuff, struggle through prototype fits and starts, and then build comparable battlecruisers and fighters, take the fight to the aliens, and proceed to kick the crap out of said long-stagnant-technology alien threats in a galaxy-wide epic fight. They'd been sitting on their behinds with "ancient technology", we take it, innovate and make it better.
I like that.
Post by: Cromlech on March 23, 2008, 01:37:54 PM
BTiLC is a guilty pleasure of mine.
It's all in the reflexes.
Post by: Matthew Carberry on March 23, 2008, 02:16:25 PM
BTiLC is a guilty pleasure of mine.
It's all in the reflexes. "I'd go but..."
"I know. There's a problem with your face."
Post by: Matthew Carberry on March 23, 2008, 02:22:06 PM
Unknown threat? Let's take a glorified handgun.
Post by: Strings on March 23, 2008, 03:06:39 PM
Post by: Manedwolf on March 23, 2008, 03:13:00 PM
The biggest flaw with Stargate was, besides the idea of sending an Air Force team in the first place, that they decided to take MP-5's instead of real rifles.
Unknown threat? Let's take a glorified handgun.
Unknown threat? Let's take a glorified handgun.
Didn't you see the one where there were invisible enemies in a camp, so they just had everyone hit the ground and grabbed the SAW?
Post by: Bigjake on March 23, 2008, 03:17:31 PM
I googled "Zardoz". Here be the result:
You are both BASTARDS, And as a result I'll be forced to drink Makers Mark tonight until that image fades into the haze.
Thanks alot!
Post by: Strings on March 23, 2008, 03:24:14 PM
Post by: Bigjake on March 23, 2008, 03:26:20 PM
Post by: Sergeant Bob on March 23, 2008, 03:28:24 PM
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Zardoz: The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the gun shoots death, and purifies the earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth and kill!
If ya kept your eyes closed for most of the movie, it might be quite entertaining!
Post by: mtnbkr on March 23, 2008, 04:31:58 PM
You are both BASTARDS, And as a result I'll be forced to drink Makers Mark tonight until that image fades into the haze.
Thanks alot!
Thanks alot!
ROTFLMAO!
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Zardoz: The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the gun shoots death, and purifies the earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth and kill!
Now that my wife is pregnant, I get that a lot.
Chris
Post by: Strings on March 23, 2008, 05:44:54 PM
Yes... but you get it from Mike...
Post by: Balog on March 23, 2008, 06:05:02 PM
Post by: MillCreek on March 23, 2008, 06:35:29 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 23, 2008, 07:05:15 PM
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Zardoz: The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the gun shoots death, and purifies the earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth and kill!
Fortunately, Fred Phelps is no longer a screen-writer.
Post by: Tecumseh on March 23, 2008, 08:00:35 PM
serious, and I mean SERIOUS, contender for the worst movie ever.
You have not seen the Postman? How about Water world?
Post by: K Frame on March 23, 2008, 08:07:46 PM
serious, and I mean SERIOUS, contender for the worst movie ever.
You have not seen the Postman? How about Water world?At the risk of being repetitive, let me repeat myself...
"Time to trot out your reading comprehension skills, folks...
I said it's a CONTENDER for the worst movie ever made.
Not that it is the worst movie ever made."
Post by: Strings on March 23, 2008, 09:16:14 PM
*ducks for cover*
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 23, 2008, 09:20:16 PM
Post by: HankB on March 24, 2008, 04:54:15 AM
"Time to trot out your reading comprehension skills, folks...
I said it's a CONTENDER for the worst movie ever made.
Not that it is the worst movie ever made."
Nope, Stargate wouldn't even make the Top Ten (or Bottom Ten?) list of movies in a "Worst Movie" contest, so it wouldn't even be a contender.I said it's a CONTENDER for the worst movie ever made.
Not that it is the worst movie ever made."
Zardoz, now, that is a real contender for "Worst Movie." Perhaps the favorite for the award.
Doc Savage, The Man of Bronze, is another contender for "Worst Movie" as well as "Most Inappropriate Soundtrack" honors.
Water World, which begins with the hero drinking his own filtered urine, and goes down from there, is a contender.
Jarhead, which portrayed Marines as screwballs with homoerotic undertones, was worse.
Sahara, which involved a lost treasure ship in the middle of the desert . . .
The Day After Tomorrow, with its global-warming ice age . . .
Signs, Ishtar, 12 Monkeys . . . all were worse than Stargate.
When Women Had Tails . . . and it's sequel, When Women Lost Their Tails . . .
But Stargate? Uh uh. Not even a contender. Probably wouldn't even make the top 20 list of stinkers.
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 24, 2008, 05:01:29 AM
Post by: K Frame on March 24, 2008, 05:54:24 AM
Hardly a worst movie keeper in there.
Post by: mtnbkr on March 24, 2008, 05:57:21 AM
Chris
Post by: StopTheGrays on March 24, 2008, 05:59:43 AM
serious, and I mean SERIOUS, contender for the worst movie ever.
The movie came out in 1994. Did you just see it for the first time recently or has this hate been stewing for 14 years?
Post by: K Frame on March 24, 2008, 06:02:05 AM
Post by: Manedwolf on March 24, 2008, 06:06:05 AM
Saw it for the first time.
I suggest recovering by watching The Fifth Element, one of my all-time favorites, and one of the BEST science fiction films of the 1990's.
It's just sort of sad comparing the wonderfully hectic aerial taxi-chase scene in that movie to the boring airspeeder chase in Episode II. Lucas apparently didn't learn a thing.
Post by: K Frame on March 24, 2008, 06:16:04 AM
If you really want to scrape bottom, though?
Yor, the Hunter from the Future.
How can you go wrong when the name of the main character is Reb Brown...
Post by: Silver Bullet on March 24, 2008, 06:36:40 AM
I didn't like Fifth Element.
Post by: Mabs2 on March 24, 2008, 06:49:23 AM
Post by: seeker_two on March 24, 2008, 06:51:35 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094057/
....and my MOM made me watch it.....
Post by: HankB on March 24, 2008, 06:57:35 AM
Your list is weak and pathetic, Hank.
Hardly a worst movie keeper in there.
Says the man who calls Stargate a worst-movie contender, which is on a par with calling Pee-Wee Herman or Woody Allen contenders for Ultimate Fighting Champion. Hardly a worst movie keeper in there.
If you're looking for bad movies, oh, I suppose you can add in all manner of chop-socki Kung Fu movies or those old Italian sword-and-sandal Hercules movies, maybe some blackploitation films, but I tried to limit the list to things that actually made it into theaters with some budget behind them. (Except for the women & tails films . . .
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Post by: K Frame on March 24, 2008, 07:15:17 AM
Doesn't mean that it IS the worst movie ever made.
As for Woody, hey, he took on Mia Farrow and won. That was ultimate.
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on March 24, 2008, 03:39:17 PM
Still, it has a better ending than many other 'bad movies' do. The majority of the actors get shot up, which was sure to have garnered applause amongst moviegoers who stayed the whole time.
Connery in red underwear's weird (though there are many instances of idiotic costuming in better films)... but having a guy with a sharpied-on mustache is insane.
Post by: AJ Dual on March 24, 2008, 04:22:37 PM
Trouble is, the real 'worst movies' are low-budget pictures directed, produced, written, and acted by talentless nobodies (these movies fail on all counts - pathetic acting, story, filming). Zardoz is okay in many of the technical aspects... the actors seem to know their lines, pretty good camera work... the people involved had talent. Boorman had made a few major pictures, ditto for Connery. Zardoz is an atrocity of film-making. Talented, intelligent people collaborated to make a mind-boggling, loony film that jumps clear off the tracks halfway through. It's not the fault of the budget... it's Boorman to blame for writing something so moronic.
Still, it has a better ending than many other 'bad movies' do. The majority of the actors get shot up, which was sure to have garnered applause amongst moviegoers who stayed the whole time.
Connery in red underwear's weird (though there are many instances of idiotic costuming in better films)... but having a guy with a sharpied-on mustache is insane.
Still, it has a better ending than many other 'bad movies' do. The majority of the actors get shot up, which was sure to have garnered applause amongst moviegoers who stayed the whole time.
Connery in red underwear's weird (though there are many instances of idiotic costuming in better films)... but having a guy with a sharpied-on mustache is insane.
But... But...
"The Gun is GOOD! The Penis is BAD!"
Post by: Silver Bullet on March 24, 2008, 04:51:42 PM
Of course, a much better Connery sci-fi movie was Outland.
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 24, 2008, 06:55:24 PM
I just saw the second Pirates of the Caribbean. What a turkey. Nothing in the "plot" was the least bit interesting, but they insisted on drawing it out till I felt I had been on Davy Jones' ship for a hundred years.
Post by: Silver Bullet on March 24, 2008, 08:22:27 PM
Thirteenth Floor was, though. Has anybody seen that ?
Post by: Balog on March 24, 2008, 08:25:03 PM
Edit: ah, here it is.
Post by: Manedwolf on March 24, 2008, 08:27:12 PM
I just saw the second Pirates of the Caribbean. What a turkey. Nothing in the "plot" was the least bit interesting, but they insisted on drawing it out till I felt I had been on Davy Jones' ship for a hundred years.
That was really a shame, as the first one was so much fun.
Post by: LadySmith on March 25, 2008, 01:31:19 AM
Sean Connery in bright red tactical Depends...
Post by: bedlamite on March 25, 2008, 02:27:52 AM
I want to see Zardoz now.
Sean Connery in bright red tactical Depends...
Sean Connery in bright red tactical Depends...
The trailer is on youtube.
Post by: wmenorr67 on March 25, 2008, 02:36:01 AM
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Post by: roo_ster on March 25, 2008, 03:47:09 AM
Outland was not so great, either, although I like it when sci-fi movies can keep their wardrobe and weaponry down-to-earth. So many of them seem to say, "But it's space! We have to dress in jumpsuits and carry phaser-blasters!"
I agree, the mundane weaponry and wardrobe allowed one to concentrate on the movie & not the props.
Post by: Manedwolf on March 25, 2008, 03:54:14 AM
Outland was not so great, either, although I like it when sci-fi movies can keep their wardrobe and weaponry down-to-earth. So many of them seem to say, "But it's space! We have to dress in jumpsuits and carry phaser-blasters!"
I agree, the mundane weaponry and wardrobe allowed one to concentrate on the movie & not the props.
This is one of the reasons I liked Firefly.
Post by: Strings on March 25, 2008, 07:17:36 AM
At least, they would have been, if the women had been worth looking at...
Post by: Phyphor on March 25, 2008, 07:46:58 AM
Where's Strings? He needs to describe Zardoz for everyone.
You could just read the Agony Booth recap -> http://www.agonybooth.com/recaps/Zardoz_1974.aspx
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on March 25, 2008, 08:10:32 AM
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You could just read the Agony Booth recap
The definitive Zardoz viewer's guide, recommended for all Zardoz fans.
Post by: MillCreek on March 25, 2008, 08:35:26 AM