Mask observation

[Bogie]

Mostly when I walk past the computer...
 
But my VERY DAMN WOKE neighborhood also has a veritable bleepload of "covid awareness" stuff going on. It isn't stupid require a face panty to walk 10' from the door to a barstool... It is showing that you care about others.
 
I don't.

[Perd Hapley]

Debating masks' merits is all well and good, but people seem to have overlooked the question of whether it's really reasonable to demand that the general public wear them on a regular basis.

There are plenty of public health measures we could demand of people, which would save lives. We could ban booze again. We could make flu vaccines mandatory. We could force everyone to have regular health and welfare screenings, and ban trans-fats, and strictly regulate fast food portion sizes.

But none of those things are the constant bugbear of the media, so we have to actually debate them, and vote to approve such measures. With covid, it's just one, never-ending emergency.

[Bogie]

Besides, masks are the reason why almost nobody died from the flu last year...

[tokugawa]

Masks are so yesterday. Internment camps are the new craze.

[Boomhauer]

Masks are so yesterday. Internment camps are the new craze.

Or mass graves. Yes I have screenshots of leftists calling for people to be lined up and shot if they won’t take the vaccine

[zxcvbob]

They certainly have you thinking about masks and COVID 24/7.

That's a very good point.  (not just about Bogie in particular but skeptics in general)

[Bogie]

When you look at a news site, and the first thoughts are... "Gee, that doesn't add up... And that doesn't either. And that's just off."
 
I'm still waiting for the moon-suited guys in the ambulances to walk down my street scraping the bodies off the pavement.
 
Only body on my block was a gangbanger.
 
I'm MUCH more worried about lead poisoning than about the 'Rona.

[230RN]

Double post

[Bogie]

One of the things that I used to do at The Big Drug Company was proofreading. Proofing stuff written by PhD types for errors, including statistical stuff... You wouldn't believe how often a decimal gets moved... And when I saw the initial numbers from China, my first thought was "they're lying, and they're blowing things out of proportion." And things went downhill from there.
 
Mortality happens. Regardless.

[230RN]

Not critical.  Discovered these things right away when the mask stuff started.

1.  You can't blow chewing gum bubbles.  Not even the small ones you can make go crack.

2.  You can't spit into the urinal when taking a leak. I never realized I had this habit.

3. Eyeglasses fog up perversely, at the most inopportune moments.  Especially when you want to look at a lookable girl.

4.  The back of my right ear is amazingly sensitive to the mask string for some reason.  I've had to cushion that string with a scrap of tissue on occasion.  Left one's OK.

5.  I tried to think of that SF novel where filters in everyone's nostrils were required.  Not critical to the story, just an opinion of the author, I guess.  Asimov's "The Caves of Steel" in the original novel?

Just for what it's worth on a Saturday morning.

Terry, 230RN

[Perd Hapley]

Bogie's in the big city, but here in the outlying area (St Louis County), the stores I've been to are no longer hectoring customers (maybe not even employees) to wear masks. At least not since the county executive's attempt to go back to a mask mandate was denied by both the county council and the courts. And that's even true in Cori Bush territory, where I live.

[Bogie]

My neighborhood is gentrified urban, altho most of the residents would never call it that. 95% for Clinton.
 
Even most of the old farts who are still hanging on were union, and still do whatever the union tells them to do.

[Perd Hapley]

https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/02/a-look-at-scientific-evidence-suggesting-face-masks-damage-your-health/

[RocketMan]

https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/02/a-look-at-scientific-evidence-suggesting-face-masks-damage-your-health/

There you go again, spreading counter-narrative misinformation.  Banschwerk for you.

[dogmush]

https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/02/a-look-at-scientific-evidence-suggesting-face-masks-damage-your-health/

Masks can increase CO2 levels and lower Blood O2.  OK, Numbers would be nice to judge how much.

Masks can cause pulse and respiration to rise?  Sure, and it's definitely something to think about.  I, for one, don't jog in a mask, and don't workout indoors where they require one.  I can see where one would have to weigh their individual health against the activity they want to do that requires a mask.

Do governments, employers, and schools have the legal authority to subject Americans to the same stressor at work in waterboarding?

  You lost me.  GTFO of here with your hyperbolic bullshit.

It's bad enough that they do the now standard new thing of vague assertions with no real info and a hyperlink to their source, so you have to click through, get numbers from some other source, and apply them back to the article to get any real info, but torture?  Make a real arguement.

[Bogie]

When I see someone wearing a mask, and they are not easily identified as Woke Folk, I assume they have warrants.

[Boomhauer]

I got Bells Palsy after having to wear a mask all day at Disney World. The sweat and splash from the water rides apparently provided the perfect breeding ground.

Now granted that’s an unusual case but it was not fun having stroke mouth for a few weeks. I’ve avoided the hell out of wearing a mask since.

[RoadKingLarry]

Masks can increase CO2 levels and lower Blood O2.  OK, Numbers would be nice to judge how much.

Masks can cause pulse and respiration to rise?  Sure, and it's definitely something to think about.  I, for one, don't jog in a mask, and don't workout indoors where they require one.  I can see where one would have to weigh their individual health against the activity they want to do that requires a mask.
  You lost me.  GTFO of here with your hyperbolic bullshit.

It's bad enough that they do the now standard new thing of vague assertions with no real info and a hyperlink to their source, so you have to click through, get numbers from some other source, and apply them back to the article to get any real info, but torture?  Make a real arguement.

A little personal experience.
When I had my 3rd shoulder surgery (4th surgery for the year) last October I had to wear a mask while waiting in the pre-op ward.
Having had recent experience with the process I was familiar with the drill. They did a nerve block on the shoulder and lightly knocked me out for that procedure. Sometime after I was shaken awake by a couple of nurses and woke to find myself on O2 and no mask. The nurse told me my blood ox had dropped too low while I was napping with the mask on. They let me leave off the mask until they took me back and after my nearly 8 hour surgery they didn't make me put a mask on while I was in recovery nor when they wheeled me to the door.
I overheard the nurses talking amongst themselves while they thought I was napping before surgery and their opinions on the mask requirements were pretty well bullshit.

[zxcvbob]

A little personal experience.
When I had my 3rd shoulder surgery (4th surgery for the year) last October I had to wear a mask while waiting in the pre-op ward.
Having had recent experience with the process I was familiar with the drill. They did a nerve block on the shoulder and lightly knocked me out for that procedure. Sometime after I was shaken awake by a couple of nurses and woke to find myself on O2 and no mask. The nurse told me my blood ox had dropped too low while I was napping with the mask on. They let me leave off the mask until they took me back and after my nearly 8 hour surgery they didn't make me put a mask on while I was in recovery nor when they wheeled me to the door.
I overheard the nurses talking amongst themselves while they thought I was napping before surgery and their opinions on the mask requirements were pretty well bullshit.

That's interesting.  I woulda thought you'd wake up in a panic when your CO2 levels got too high.

[HeroHog]

When I see someone wearing a mask, and they are not easily identified as Woke Folk, I assume they have warrants.

Same same...

[JTHunter]

That's interesting.  I woulda thought you'd wake up in a panic when your CO2 levels got too high.

Very unlikely.  A brain deprived of oxygen simply goes to sleep - permanently !

[Bogie]

A "customer" yesterday walked in, wearing a mask and sunglasses and a hat. Seems like a lot of the fashion is to cover as much skin as possible.
 
Grabbed a half dozen cans of paint, walked straight out the door, climbed in a plateless truck, probably stolen, and drove off.
 
They don't let me tackle them.
 
Another customer shows up, dressed much the same way, proceeds to interrogate me on deep cycle batteries for about a half hour. Finally figure out that he wants to go off-grid in the City. I tell him to look up Iron Edison, and he finally goes away. He was creeping out my new boss - mostly, to me, he was just one of the crazy locals...

[bedlamite]

[Hawkmoon]

Harbor Freight's 10-packs of masks are at 99 cents. I had to buy one for a doctor's appointment, and I've been supposed to be wearing one at work. I get the occasional Karen.
 
I suspect that there's no longer a huge demand.

Are those HF masks any good at all? How many plies are they?

[zxcvbob]

Are those HF masks any good at all? How many plies are they?

HF's KN95 respirator masks (item 58392) seem to be pretty good.  Nice and thick, and they seal well around the edges and bridge.  They don't have an NIOSH certification, but there's a little piece of official looking paper in the package that might be an equivalent Chinese certification -- of course even if it is it could be counterfeit.  I like them and they weren't too expensive and seem durable enough to launder them.