Trump is rallying again...

[Bogie]

...and the true believers are going crazy.

https://thirdratepundit.com/trump-derangement-works-both-ways/

[Hawkmoon]

Random thought: If Trump runs again, he can only be elected to the presidency one more time. But ...

Amendment 22 to the Constitution:

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

It's one of those "Nah, never happen" scenarios, but it's within the law (as I read it) that Trump could be elected again and serve one term. He could then turn around and run as the VP candidate behind his VP. If they win, the new President could then resign from office, making Trump president for a third term.

If Trump were to be elected again, I wish he would make good on two of his promises from 2016: (1) Build the wall; and (2) universal, national carry reciprocity.

[ConstitutionCowboy]

I agree he should finish the wall. As for "national reciprocity", I don't want the federal government involved. It would amount to recognition and approval by the federal government that the several states can infringe on the RKBA. I won't be happy until all infringements are repealed - on both the federal and state levels. Anyone so adjudicated who cannot be trusted out in society with arms, if not executed, belongs in prison or an institution until it can be proven in a court of law that they are no longer a threat to society. Period.

Woody

[French G.]

Need trumpism without the Don. DJT Jr. maybe. Or Owens/Ivanka. I liked trumps results but probably would never have got on with hime personally. 2024 he is older, more bitter, more unhinged.

If we get that far. The installation of Kamala may end it all.

[TommyGunn]

Random thought: If Trump runs again, he can only be elected to the presidency one more time. But ...

Amendment 22 to the Constitution:

It's one of those "Nah, never happen" scenarios, but it's within the law (as I read it) that Trump could be elected again and serve one term. He could then turn around and run as the VP candidate behind his VP. If they win, the new President could then resign from office, making Trump president for a third term.

If Trump were to be elected again, I wish he would make good on two of his promises from 2016: (1) Build the wall; and (2) universal, national carry reciprocity.

I think the V. P.  has to qualify to be president under the law to be V. P.  in the first pkace,  and if Trump is elected again he could not then run as V. P. for this reason.  IANAL,  but that's how it's been explained to me. 

[Bogie]

We don't need a "wall." We need a fence. With patrols.

[TommyGunn]

We don't need a "wall." We need a fence. With patrols.

No, a moat, with alligators, piranha, sharks, moray eels .... 

[Hawkmoon]

I think the V. P.  has to qualify to be president under the law to be V. P.  in the first pkace,  and if Trump is elected again he could not then run as V. P. for this reason.  IANAL,  but that's how it's been explained to me. 

I quoted the text of the 22nd Amendment. "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, ..."

Words have meaning. If he is elected as Vice President, and then takes the office of President by virtue of the order of succession, he would not have been elected a third time. It does not say that no person may serve as President three times -- it says no person shall be elected more than twice.

[Bogie]

If it makes some of my hipster neighbors start to froth at the mouth... works for me.

[MechAg94]

I think the V. P.  has to qualify to be president under the law to be V. P.  in the first pkace,  and if Trump is elected again he could not then run as V. P. for this reason.  IANAL,  but that's how it's been explained to me. 

Oh, does that still matter?

[MechAg94]

My only concern is will him running cause the left to rally more than they really should?  I don't really want him and his campaign to overshadow the mid-term elections.

[Ben]

I wish Trump would have won the last election. I truly believe that there is more than enough evidence to show that election fraud, big tech, and the MSM swayed the outcome.

Nevertheless, I think Trump's role now is something other than running for President a second time. I believe a second Trump run would end badly, not just for Trump, but for the right. Big tech and the MSM would absolutely censor and "curate" the election (not that they won't do that to whoever runs, but especially for Trump).

It's way too early, but at this point DeSantis has been standing out to me as a guy who does Trump-like policy, but without the Trump twitter baggage or Trump's tendency to go junior high school anytime anyone says anything about him. I like Noem as well.

[RocketMan]

With the Democrats firmly in control of the election apparatus in this country, does it really matter who runs for office on the Republican side?  In my opinion, all the talk about the Republicans taking back control of Congress in 2022 is just wishful thinking.

[Ron]

With the Democrats the media and Deep State Republicans firmly in control of the election apparatus in this country, does it really matter who runs for office on the Republican side?  In my opinion, all the talk about the Republicans taking back control of Congress in 2022 is just wishful thinking.

Lot's a blame to go around.

[Perd Hapley]

With the Democrats firmly in control of the election apparatus in this country, does it really matter who runs for office on the Republican side?  In my opinion, all the talk about the Republicans taking back control of Congress in 2022 is just wishful thinking.

Are you going to vote next year?

[230RN]

With the Democrats firmly in control of the election apparatus in this country, does it really matter who runs for office on the Republican side?  In my opinion, all the talk about the Republicans taking back control of Congress in 2022 is just wishful thinking.

Agreed, but G-d, let us both be wrong.  As I said dozens of times, "The Fix is in."

On the other hand, the "alerts" over the last vote-counting controversy may suppress the Dems' passion to generate votes.  And by "generate" I don't mean busing valid voters to the polls.

I mean "generate."

"Oh, but Terry, there's no proof of voting fraud."

As I also said before...

https://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=64720.msg1310797#msg1310797

1. There can be no suspicion without observation
2. There can be no investigation without suspicion
3. There can be no proof without investigation.

Note that Truth is not attainable if this process is interrupted at any point.

So when a group cries "There is no proof," they assume you are too stupid to catch on to where they interrupted the process.

Of course there's no proof. The process was interrupted between 1 and 2.

Terry, 230RN

[Bogie]

I think the biggest thing to emerge from the 2020 election was the concept among the intelligentsia that "Fraud is okay if we're doing it."

[ConstitutionCowboy]

I quoted the text of the 22nd Amendment. "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, ..."

Words have meaning. If he is elected as Vice President, and then takes the office of President by virtue of the order of succession, he would not have been elected a third time. It does not say that no person may serve as President three times -- it says no person shall be elected more than twice.

Good point. It's one I missed. Thank you.

Woody

[RocketMan]

Are you going to vote next year?

I honestly don't know at this point.  If it looks like the Dems are cranking their fraud machine up to eleven again, probably not.  There really isn't much keeping them from cranking it up as they proved its efficacy last November.  They will almost certainly refine things before Nov. 2022.

[Perd Hapley]

I honestly don't know at this point.  If it looks like the Dems are cranking their fraud machine up to eleven again, probably not.  There really isn't much keeping them from cranking it up as they proved its efficacy last November.  They will almost certainly refine things before Nov. 2022.

Do you see the problem with not voting?

[RocketMan]

Do you see the problem with not voting?

If there is absolutely no way for your supported candidate to win an election, then what is the point of voting?  And please don't raise that hoary canard about a single vote making a difference.

[Perd Hapley]

If there is absolutely no way for your supported candidate to win an election, then what is the point of voting?  And please don't raise that hoary canard about a single vote making a difference.

I'm not going to say anything about a single vote, except that they add up to multiple votes. There is no way your candidate will win, if a bunch of his supporters stay home. Remember, the fewer the votes for the other guy, the easier it is to cheat.

[Pb]

I'm not going to say anything about a single vote, except that they add up to multiple votes. There is no way your candidate will win, if a bunch of his supporters stay home. Remember, the fewer the votes for the other guy, the easier it is to cheat.

Yes.

[JTHunter]

Random thought: If Trump runs again, he can only be elected to the presidency one more time. But ...

Amendment 22 to the Constitution:

It's one of those "Nah, never happen" scenarios, but it's within the law (as I read it) that Trump could be elected again and serve one term. He could then turn around and run as the VP candidate behind his VP. If they win, the new President could then resign from office, making Trump president for a third term.

If Trump were to be elected again, I wish he would make good on two of his promises from 2016: (1) Build the wall; and (2) universal, national carry reciprocity.

It CAN happen.  Over 100 years ago, Grover Cleveland served two NON-consecutive terms as President, #22 and #24.

[TommyGunn]

It CAN happen.  Over 100 years ago, Grover Cleveland served two NON-consecutive terms as President, #22 and #24.

That was a long time ago.  After FDR  they passed an amendment limiting the president to two terms.