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McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« on: January 31, 2008, 06:07:49 PM »
Title says it all.  I'm not sure what to do, be it vote for Yosemite Sam or go shooting.  What are y'all gonna do??  In a McCain/ Hillary heads up, I'd rather see the Dems send us to hell than one of "our own". Even if that means 4 more years of ANY Clinton.

*No, I'm not voting Paul, his minions have made it very clear to me that my name is worth too much to associate with such idiots.

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2008, 06:13:21 PM »
I guess just suck up like I have for the past 20 years.





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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2008, 06:17:13 PM »
I'm almost hoping Hillary gets elected instead of McCain. Maybe then the GOP might grow a pair.......

Or maybe not. undecided
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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 06:20:59 PM »
I'm starting to wonder if McCain suffers from multiple personality disorder. Did you see his debate with Romney?

I mean, I don't like Romney, but McCain was almost sadistic in how angrily overconfident he was being...downright mean, as if he was enjoying tormenting the one he was sure he'd beat. In a scary way. The man constantly switches from Happy McCain to Mean McCain, even as a commenter said, you never know which you'll see at any appearance.

I don't like the idea of someone with that just below the surface having the launch codes, you know?  undecided

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 06:32:09 PM »
Well, I'm going to vote for Cthulhu. grin



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Yeah, I'm tired and fed up with this race. I'm sure as hell not voting for McCain- might as well vote Democrat in that case...


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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008, 07:38:21 PM »
I will write in Ron Paul.  As of right now, I will be voting for Ron Paul in the primary.  If he does not make it, then I will still vote for him.  I cannot endorse the Authoritarians in the GOP nor will I endorse them in the Democratic Party.

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2008, 07:58:56 PM »
Should Ron Paul fail to get the nomination and decide not to run third party, I will vote for the Dem nominee.
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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2008, 08:06:50 PM »
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*No, I'm not voting Paul, his minions have made it very clear to me that my name is worth too much to associate with such idiots.

Anybody who would vote on the basis of not liking some of a candidate's followers is probably going to throw away his vote anyway.

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2008, 08:54:11 PM »
If McCain gets the nomination, I'll abstain from a presidential vote. He's as much a Republican as Hillary is and I'll damned if I'll vote FOR that.

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2008, 01:21:59 AM »
I'll do what I did in 2004......

....I'll find a third-party candidate who most closely represents my views and vote for him/her. In 2004, it was Michael Peroutka (Constitution Party). This year, it might be Ron Paul (who I'm voting for in the Texas primary). It might be someone else......

...either way, the Republicans will know where they have to go to get my vote back....
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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2008, 01:52:33 AM »
My vote will be Ron Paul whether on the republican ticket or independant.

And like Sergeant Bob, I would rather see Hillary than McCain for the same reason and others.

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2008, 03:20:05 AM »
I'll be voting for Ron Paul regardless. I couldn't stomach voting for any of the other mooks on the list.
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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2008, 04:25:35 AM »
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*No, I'm not voting Paul, his minions have made it very clear to me that my name is worth too much to associate with such idiots.

I agree but think that is a terrible way to start a political thread, poking everyone with a stick before we even get started. If you are simply anticipating that the Paulistas will leave fly dirt all over your thread, I can sympathize.

Personally, it is not over. McCain makes Romney look good. Romney may be a lot of things, but he is not a Democrat.

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2008, 05:59:29 AM »
I will just stay home and have a beer.....chris3

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2008, 06:21:56 AM »
How is everybody so sure the Dems will nominate Hillary?  It's looking more and more like (barf) Obama. 
McCain v. Obama is truly a nightmare.

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2008, 06:26:05 AM »
How is everybody so sure the Dems will nominate Hillary?  It's looking more and more like (barf) Obama. 
McCain v. Obama is truly a nightmare.

Because Obama just decided to pick up Edwards' "poverty" banner that got Edwards rejected.

Americans might be misguided at times, but they still hate socialism in general. Not going to fly. He's got the hardcore support of the illegals groups and some industry-strangling unions, but that's about it.

More people are seeing beyond the smile and realizing that he's got a giant led-sign RAISE TAXES hovering behind it.

Also, he keeps saying that he'll meet with dictators who would use him as a prop, and even the slowest Americans are starting to realize how dumb that would be.


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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2008, 06:49:10 AM »
My objection to McCain is that he's a Bush clone.  No economic or energy policy, pro illegal immigration, pro war.  His message is "the jobs aren't coming back, the illegals aren't going home, and we're going to be at war forever." 

And Obama will expand an already bloated federal government-exactly the wrong way to go in a debtor nation.  Our standard of living would surely drop significantly.

It looks bleak.  sad

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2008, 07:05:59 AM »
I just took the 'test' here, and it pointed me towards McCain as the closest candidate.

Of course, I don't think that it was a very good test, as a number of options were nearly identical.

For example, question 5:
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What do you think should be done -- if anything -- in the wake of the near collapse of companies specializing in subprime mortgages, and the foreclosures of homes?

Among the various answers, here's two:
Nothing. The Federal Reserve Bank shouldn't be "bailing out" mortgage lenders.
The Federal Reserve Bank shouldn't be "bailing out" mortgage lenders.

on firearms, two answers that I think are a little close for a simple true/false measure:

The Second Amendment is primarily about tyranny and self-defense, not hunting. Citizens must be able to defend themselves from government, if need be, and from all threats to our lives and property. I oppose gun control based on geography. I opposed banning assault weapons and opposed the Brady Bill.

I believe law abiding citizens have the right to keep and bear arms. I oppose bans on assault rifles, ammunition and ammunition magazines. I oppose litigation against gun manufacturers for crimes committed by third parties. I support background checks at gun shows. I believe that gun control is a proven failure in fighting crime.

While you can object to the background check part of the second measure, to be honest it's a minor issue to me, depending on how it plays out.  Something like having a FFL perform quick checks via the existing system* even for private party sales wouldn't be too hard.

Also, there's nothing on balancing the budget, fiscal restraint, etc...

*Yes, NICS can and should be improved in speed, reliability, accuracy, and ease of making corrections.

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2008, 07:42:37 AM »
There are times when a sane man looks for a monastery or, if hornier, an island.   This may be one of those times.

We're having a run of unusually bad Emperors.  Hole up and keep your powder dry.
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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2008, 07:59:29 AM »
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I agree but think that is a terrible way to start a political thread, poking everyone with a stick before we even get started. If you are simply anticipating that the Paulistas will leave fly dirt all over your thread, I can sympathize.

There would be Paulista drones crapping on the carpet no matter what.  Much like bad weather.


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Anybody who would vote on the basis of not liking some of a candidate's followers is probably going to throw away his vote anyway.

Not really.

 A candidate's supporters are a very good lithmus test. Illegals like Hillary as do commies and the anti war left (and all sorts of other assorted slime).  I can't stand any of them, and therefore won't agree with the person they are supporting.

Same for Paulians, to a lesser degree, which is the saddest part about them, because the Libertarians have more than a couple good ideas.


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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2008, 08:01:11 AM »
There are times when a sane man looks for a monastery or, if hornier, an island.   This may be one of those times.

We're having a run of unusually bad Emperors.  Hole up and keep your powder dry.

Thats what I'm thinking.

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2008, 08:58:23 AM »
There are plenty of Dems who (claim they) won't vote for Hillary under any circumstances.  Apparently she's the McCain of the Democrat party.   Maybe they should just run together on the same ticket.

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2008, 09:16:07 AM »
How is everybody so sure the Dems will nominate Hillary?  It's looking more and more like (barf) Obama. 
McCain v. Obama is truly a nightmare.

All I can say to that is to ask all you guys who are always saying we can vote the bastards out is, how can we do that when the two party system of late almost guarantees that we really don't have a choice except between bastard and bastard, turd and *expletive deleted*che, moron and...

Oh well - you get the idea.

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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2008, 09:23:13 AM »
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Americans might be misguided at times, but they still hate socialism in general. Not going to fly. He's (re: Obama) got the hardcore support of the illegals groups and some industry-strangling unions, but that's about it.

Up until a couple of weeks ago I was of the same opinon - Americans still hate socialism. Now I'm not so sure.

I recently joined a shooters forum for Oklahomans. I was amazed at how much support Obama is getting from Okie shooters. Trying to talk 'em out of it was just asking for a flame war.

I've lived here in OK for 23 years and we're a RED state and have been since I came here. But OBAMA is getting support here and way more of it than I'd have imagined.

If Okies are supporting him it makes me wonder how soon hell is gonna freeze over (and if the weather the past couple of weeks is any indication it may not be too long from now).
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Re: McCain gets GOP nod, then what??
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2008, 09:32:05 AM »
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Americans might be misguided at times, but they still hate socialism in general. Not going to fly. He's (re: Obama) got the hardcore support of the illegals groups and some industry-strangling unions, but that's about it.

Up until a couple of weeks ago I was of the same opinon - Americans still hate socialism. Now I'm not so sure.

I recently joined a shooters forum for Oklahomans. I was amazed at how much support Obama is getting from Okie shooters. Trying to talk 'em out of it was just asking for a flame war.

I've lived here in OK for 23 years and we're a RED state and have been since I came here. But OBAMA is getting support here and way more of it than I'd have imagined.

If Okies are supporting him it makes me wonder how soon hell is gonna freeze over (and if the weather the past couple of weeks is any indication it may not be too long from now).

Unions, I'd bet.