Author Topic: Rider Passed Protecting Military Firearms, Ammunition, and Components (Read 6437 times)

MicroBalrog · « **on:** December 19, 2009, 03:06:10 PM »

Rider Passed Protecting Military Firearms, Ammunition, and Components

With the holiday season upon us, and the end of the year fast approaching, the U.S. House of Representatives passed H.R. 3326—the Department of Defense Appropriations Act of 2010. With the passage of this bill, NRA-ILA wraps up its appropriations work for the year.

Our efforts on the huge spending bill were rewarded with the restoration of a longstanding rider to protect M-1 carbines, M-1 Garands, M-14s, .22 caliber rifles, and others from being destroyed.

This language also includes a prohibition on the destruction of small arms ammunition and components, and a response to the short-lived concern over destruction of spent brass casings earlier this year.

Section 8019 of the bill reads: "None of the funds available to the Department of Defense may be used to demilitarize or dispose of M-1 Carbines, M-1 Garand rifles, M-14 rifles, .22 caliber rifles, .30 caliber rifles, or M-1911 pistols, or to demilitarize or destroy small arms ammunition or ammunition components that are not otherwise prohibited from commercial sale under Federal law, unless the small arms ammunition or ammunition components are certified by the Secretary of the Army or designee as unserviceable or unsafe for further use."

NRA-ILA would like to thank U.S. Representative John Murtha (D-PA) for his help in getting the rider restored and expanded.

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And... a standing round of applause, please.

National Park Carry.

Amtrak guns.

Now this.

Did I forget anything?

Fly320s · « **Reply #1 on:** December 19, 2009, 04:49:32 PM »

Nicely done, NRA-ILA.

I'm happy about how proactive they have been lately.

Monkeyleg · « **Reply #2 on:** December 19, 2009, 05:45:03 PM »

But it's so hard to thank Murtha.

roo_ster · « **Reply #3 on:** December 19, 2009, 05:51:52 PM »

Quote from: Monkeyleg on December 19, 2009, 05:45:03 PM

But it's so hard to thank Murtha.

Devil his due...

brimic · « **Reply #4 on:** December 19, 2009, 08:44:58 PM »

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But it's so hard to thank Murtha.

No need to thank him, I'm sure there was a dumptruck full of pork in the bill for him.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 19, 2009, 09:16:28 PM »

I wonder if part of it is these Democrats know how unpopular Obama is getting and how unpopular the health care and cap&trade stuff is so they are looking for little things they can do to keep from getting hammered at the box office next year.

Either way, good job to the NRA-ILA!

MechAg94 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 19, 2009, 09:18:22 PM »

I don't know if anyone has heard, but I know some people called into Gun Talk recently about this. Even though the destruction of brass was supposed to have been reversed, some were noting that certainly military bases were not selling any spend brass. It was all hearsay so I don't know.

RevDisk · « **Reply #7 on:** December 19, 2009, 09:30:40 PM »

Quote from: Monkeyleg on December 19, 2009, 05:45:03 PM

But it's so hard to thank Murtha.

No man is entirely good or entirely evil, ML. He's just another politician. On this issue, he's been fairly consistent with opposing gun control measures and the occasional pro-2A gesture like this.

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Did I forget anything?

Legislative? Well, idiotic stuff like Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 got shot down. Bunch of state stuff has gone in our favor.

Heller opened the breach for us. The tide is finally turning. 60 years of decline has been stopped and we're just starting to pass reforms.

Scout26 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 19, 2009, 09:34:32 PM »

Quote from: RevDisk on December 19, 2009, 09:30:40 PM

Heller opened the breach for us. The tide is finally turning. 60 years of decline has been stopped and we're just starting to pass reforms.

McDonald et al. vs Chicago is going to blow up most Gun Control measures as the 2A will then be incorporated.

RocketMan · « **Reply #9 on:** December 20, 2009, 12:18:07 AM »

Quote from: scout26 on December 19, 2009, 09:34:32 PM

McDonald et al. vs Chicago is going to blow up most Gun Control measures as the 2A will then be incorporated.

Don't count your chickens, and all that.

BobR · « **Reply #10 on:** December 20, 2009, 12:50:19 AM »

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some were noting that certainly military bases were not selling any spend brass

How many tons of it do you want?

www.governmentliquidation.com

Do a search for "brass" in all states.

bob

Balog · « **Reply #11 on:** December 20, 2009, 01:57:38 AM »

Whoa whoa whoa... so 6,200 lbs of 7.62 brass is.... $150?!?! http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2830986&convertTo=USD

BobR · « **Reply #12 on:** December 20, 2009, 02:10:06 AM »

That is just the starting price for the bidding. I have never watched a brass auction through there so I don't know how much people end up paying. There is usually an open date and closing date for the bidding listed with the item.

A while back these guys had a USMC Kawasaki KLR650 (Gas model) that had a whopping 3.9 miles on it. I dropped out of the bidding at 3K, I am not sure what it went for.

There are deals to be had at that site.

bob

roo_ster · « **Reply #13 on:** December 20, 2009, 09:19:21 AM »

Quote from: Balog on December 20, 2009, 01:57:38 AM

Whoa whoa whoa... so 6,200 lbs of 7.62 brass is.... $150?!?! http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2830986&convertTo=USD

Screw ceramic tile! I'm going with 7.62 in the kitchen! (And hallways, and bedrooms, and...)

Cromlech · « **Reply #14 on:** December 20, 2009, 09:35:10 AM »

I love that there is a section for Nuclear Reactors on that site.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 20, 2009, 11:55:01 AM »

Quote from: BobR on December 20, 2009, 12:50:19 AM

How many tons of it do you want?

www.governmentliquidation.com

Do a search for "brass" in all states.

bob

Like I said, it was just hearsay. Probably the guy just didn't know where to look.

Gewehr98 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 21, 2009, 01:10:20 PM »

I go in with some of the guys at my gun club, we buy 7.62mm Lake City Brass in batches of 1000 or bigger from some of the people who partake of those auctions. Good stuff!

Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas · « **Reply #17 on:** December 21, 2009, 01:53:49 PM »

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Our efforts on the huge spending bill were rewarded with the restoration of a longstanding rider to protect M-1 carbines, M-1 Garands, M-14s, .22 caliber rifles, and others from being destroyed.

Garands and Carbines I'm quite happy with - but aren't the M14's classified under "once an MG, always an MG" laws?

jackdanson · « **Reply #18 on:** December 21, 2009, 02:10:50 PM »

Quote from: Balog on December 20, 2009, 01:57:38 AM

Whoa whoa whoa... so 6,200 lbs of 7.62 brass is.... $150?!?! http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2830986&convertTo=USD

I'm guessing that will go up.

Dang though, anybody on APS have a flatbed? OTOH I hate crimped primer pockets.

Gewehr98 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 21, 2009, 02:27:15 PM »

Yup.

M14s are a no-no. You won't see them being sold by the CMP/DCM anytime soon.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 21, 2009, 06:02:23 PM »

Quote from: Gewehr98 on December 21, 2009, 02:27:15 PM

Yup.

M14s are a no-no. You won't see them being sold by the CMP/DCM anytime soon.

Do you think they might find a way around the restriction for adding new full auto guns to the registry?

41magsnub · « **Reply #21 on:** December 22, 2009, 09:51:40 AM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on December 21, 2009, 06:02:23 PM

Do you think they might find a way around the restriction for adding new full auto guns to the registry?

As awesome as that would be, I don't think anybody is holding their breath.

Gewehr98 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 22, 2009, 11:00:41 AM »

I'm certainly not.

CNYCacher · « **Reply #23 on:** December 22, 2009, 11:14:06 AM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on December 21, 2009, 06:02:23 PM

Do you think they might find a way around the restriction for adding new full auto guns to the registry?

Is it actually a restriction? I was under the impression that it was a lack of funding.

Viking · « **Reply #24 on:** December 22, 2009, 11:44:35 AM »

Quote from: CNYCacher on December 22, 2009, 11:14:06 AM

Is it actually a restriction? I was under the impression that it was a lack of funding.

From what I've read, yes. The gun-rights issue that DOES suffer from a lack of funding is the process for having your right to keep (and presumably bear) firearms if you have been convicted of a crime. IIRC, that program haven't had any funding since the early 90's.

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Author Topic: Rider Passed Protecting Military Firearms, Ammunition, and Components (Read 6437 times)