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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2014, 11:54:18 AM »
What happens when the blind lead the blind ...... :facepalm: [tinfoil]

What do you expect in modern schools ....common sense?   ;/
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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2014, 12:16:19 PM »
What happens when the blind moronic ideologues lead the blind everyone ...... :facepalm: [tinfoil]

What do you expect in modern schools ....common sense?   ;/

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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2014, 12:30:14 PM »

I see this essentially on par with removing an amputee's prosthetic.
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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2014, 12:34:12 PM »
Not surprised that this is in Kansas City, Missouri.  Curious as to why the parents don't have the child in a school for the blind.  There is a terrific one just across the state line in Kansas.
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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2014, 03:44:39 PM »
Not surprised that this is in Kansas City, Missouri.  Curious as to why the parents don't have the child in a school for the blind.  There is a terrific one just across the state line in Kansas.

At some time in their life the blind kid is going to have to make it in the rest of the world.  That and the fact that in many instances mainstreaming a handicapped/differently-other-not the same abled kid gets benefits and services not otherwise available except to the very rich.

Wonder what the school would have done if the kid had a guide dog?  (I'm betting absolutely no disciplinary action against kids who, for example, tried to pet it.  That plus monthly vet checkups, a muzzle, and probably doggy diapers.)

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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2014, 03:49:24 PM »
I seriously doubt taking away a blind child's cane was done without some due consideration, especially as litigation happy a society we have become. I'd bet a good steak on there being a LOT more to the story.

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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2014, 06:10:28 PM »
I think you underestimate the willingness of school administrators to perform Stupid Human Tricks...



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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2014, 06:16:01 PM »
I think you underestimate the willingness of school administrators to perform Stupid Human Tricks...





True.

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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2014, 06:27:57 PM »
I seriously doubt taking away a blind child's cane was done without some due consideration, especially as litigation happy a society we have become. I'd bet a good steak on there being a LOT more to the story.

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If the blind kid was using it like a lance, or (if it was the folding variety) nun-chucks there are ways to deal with that.  The article says he hit another kid.  His parents counter that he "fidgets" with the cane.  Kick him off the bus for a week, just like they do to any other kid "convicted" of acting out on the bus.  (That the school will have to pay for specialized handicapped transportation should not influence their disciplinary decision. :O)

The school calls it their property, saying they gave it to him when he enrolled.  I'd love to track that back between the Department for the Visually Handicapped, Dept. of Rights of the Disabled, his parent's medical insurance, and the various fedral/state laws on accommodations for the handicapped.  Guide canes are of a particular size and flexibility in order to transmit information other than "Hey, you are about to bump into something!"  Much comes from the sound of the cane tip gliding over a surface or being tapped.  There's a blind guy at the VA who can tell, in the rain on an asphalt road, how far away from him I'm standing via the sounds from tapping his cane.

That pool noodle better be able to transmit the same information.

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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2014, 07:29:27 PM »
 I'd love to track that back between the Department for the Visually Handicapped, Dept. of Rights of the Disabled, his parent's medical insurance, and the various fedral/state laws on accommodations for the handicapped.  Guide canes are of a particular size and flexibility in order to transmit information other than "Hey, you are about to bump into something!"  Much comes from the sound of the cane tip gliding over a surface or being tapped.  There's a blind guy at the VA who can tell, in the rain on an asphalt road, how far away from him I'm standing via the sounds from tapping his cane.

That pool noodle better be able to transmit the same information.

stay safe.

Yep, this.   Dad can tell all kinds of things about what's where through his cane.  He also uses it to move people out of the way.  A tap on the back or side of your foot, and you move out of the way.  It's amazing how quickly people go from "Ima about to kick your ass." to "Oh, I'm sorry sir, I'm in your way."  Once they turn around and see the 90 year-old blind guy behind them.  I just walk behind him and smile at everyone.  =D =D
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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2014, 11:08:54 PM »
Yep, this.   Dad can tell all kinds of things about what's where through his cane.  He also uses it to move people out of the way.  A tap on the back or side of your foot, and you move out of the way.  It's amazing how quickly people go from "Ima about to kick your ass." to "Oh, I'm sorry sir, I'm in your way."  Once they turn around and see the 90 year-old blind guy behind them.  I just walk behind him and smile at everyone.  =D =D

You know, that does speak well of them.
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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2014, 06:51:09 AM »
At some time in their life the blind kid is going to have to make it in the rest of the world.  That and the fact that in many instances mainstreaming a handicapped/differently-other-not the same abled kid gets benefits and services not otherwise available except to the very rich.

Wonder what the school would have done if the kid had a guide dog?  (I'm betting absolutely no disciplinary action against kids who, for example, tried to pet it.  That plus monthly vet checkups, a muzzle, and probably doggy diapers.)

Did you know that wrapping the handle of a clue-bat with medical white adhesive tape converts is to Thumpazine, which can be administered PRN?

stay safe.

Actually the school I was speaking of is the Kansas School for the Blind and they actually do a good job of "mainstreaming" the people enrolled.  It isn't a private school and they actually take the students out into the real world for lessons.
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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2014, 10:08:36 AM »
You know, that does speak well of them.

It is suburban Indianapolis, which means it's middle class/working class folks and not urban trash.  (Most shootings and crime occur on the Northwest side, my folks live on the southside.)
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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2014, 03:08:28 PM »
It is suburban Indianapolis, which means it's middle class/working class folks and not urban trash.  (Most shootings and crime occur on the Northwest side, my folks live on the southside.)

Does your Dad know Tam?  Maybe he could go shooting with her one day.  =D

Oops!  That was Iowa.  IA, IL, IN, ID - they sometimes get all mixed together in my head.

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Re: Zero tolerance?
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2014, 06:40:23 PM »
Does your Dad know Tam?  Maybe he could go shooting with her one day.  =D

Oops!  That was Iowa.  IA, IL, IN, ID - they sometimes get all mixed together in my head.

stay safe.

I've gone to the Indy 1500 with her, Roberta, and few others; along with going to several Blogmeets.  I was also at the LuckyGunner Blogger shoot with her and Oleg. (along with many others).
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Bring me my Broadsword and a clear understanding.
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Hold fast by the river.
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