Author Topic: Can it come back to life for a while?  (Read 1311 times)

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Can it come back to life for a while?
« on: March 21, 2015, 07:26:24 PM »
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=47512.25 was closed for good and sufficient reason.  But it had a revival clause.

Is this worth reviving it?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/a14648/tank-delivers-pro-jeremy-clarkson-petition-to-bbc-video/

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Blogger Guido Fawkes' online petition to "save" Jeremy Clarkson reached its goal of a million signatures, and to mark the occasion, they were ceremoniously delivered to the BBC in a rented tank, complete with a "Stig" posed atop the turret.

Just when you thought the "fracas" couldn't get weirder...

Anyhow, the BBC will release the findings of its investigation next week and detail the next steps then.

A report also came out this week that said the BBC wanted to shoot and air the final episodes of this season with just May and Hammond in studio, but the pair refused to do so without Clarkson, in a show of solidarity.

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Re: Can it come back to life for a while?
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2015, 07:43:30 PM »
They are within their rights to sack him if the investigation turns up evidence he abused that producer. It might not make sense economically though.

If he did abuse that fellow and the penalty is very light or non-existent what does that say to all the other show staffers? That they too can be abused by the on-air talent? Real morale crusher there.

So if he did something they have to do something but taking the show off the air would be way too much.

On the other hand all three are all up for contract renewals so they might be perfectly happy to move on and work for another media company. Of course they would lose access to all their film and research and IP they've collected to date. All the things that have become beloved parts of the show like Stig, the celebrities setting times on the track, the video of their trips all gone.

So they would be starting from scratch in a new studio, with new a new staff and no continuity, no connection with the past. That would be a hard thing to do and they are not young men anymore.

If I were a decision maker at the BBC I'd point out that it's in everyone's best interest for the show to continue but Clarkson (if the allegations are true) has to apologize, pay a hefty fine (a portion of which goes to the staffer) and agree that he will be filmed every second of every working day (sans bathroom trips) and that any new outburst of a physical sort will generate another, higher fine.

I think that would work out well for everyone.     
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Re: Can it come back to life for a while?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2015, 08:28:43 AM »
Make him a peer of the realm, and then it will all be OK.

British nobility has a long and proud history of the masters of the manor abusing their lessers.

This is a perfect teaching moment.

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Re: Can it come back to life for a while?
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2015, 12:51:05 PM »
How long has this show been on the air?  I am thinking that producer knew what he was in for when he was hired.  But yeah, abusing the help is isn't so great.
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Re: Can it come back to life for a while?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2015, 01:56:53 PM »
I take back some of the mean things I've said about England as of late. They delivered a million signatures to the BBC, in a FV433 Self-Propelled "Abbot" armored artillery vehicle. Only 105mm, but still...  Gotta say, regardless of one's opinion on this whole incident, I deeply applaud the British citizenry for the correct method of sending their government a message. With mechanized artillery.

BBC America is HQ'd in NYC. Shame. Be kinda nice to one up the UK with something heavier. Like a T-55 or whatnot.
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Re: Can it come back to life for a while?
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2015, 03:59:20 PM »
If they keep him the next time , and there will be a next time, that person can own them.


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Re: Can it come back to life for a while?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2015, 04:39:22 PM »
I'm not familiar with English civil law, so perhaps someone can enlighten me:  does Oisin Tymon have legal recourse such as suing Clarkson and/or the Beeb?  If the powers-that-be are smart, they're already waving a sizable cheque in front of him along with an "I promise not to sue" document.

Seems that Tymon could have a nice payday coming if he plays his cards right.

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Re: Can it come back to life for a while?
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2015, 04:42:58 PM »
So far it seems he just wants to keep job and show together. But he does have counsel


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Re: Can it come back to life for a while?
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2015, 05:24:23 PM »
I hate to say it; but if they were smart the three of them would move to a private network. Their worldwide audience is over 7 times what Oprah brings in, yet their combined payroll is around £5 million compared to her $75 million. I love the show and just hope it continues somewhere; but the BBC has been getting a hell of a deal.

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Re: Can it come back to life for a while?
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2015, 10:14:43 AM »
Just announced that Clarkson's contract won't be renewed.

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Re: Can it come back to life for a while?
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2015, 10:27:24 AM »
Just announced that Clarkson's contract won't be renewed.

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Re: Can it come back to life for a while?
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2015, 11:24:56 AM »
I hate to say it; but if they were smart the three of them would move to a private network. Their worldwide audience is over 7 times what Oprah brings in, yet their combined payroll is around £5 million compared to her $75 million. I love the show and just hope it continues somewhere; but the BBC has been getting a hell of a deal.

But Oprah owns the network, doesn't she?
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Re: Can it come back to life for a while?
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2015, 04:55:52 PM »
But Oprah owns the network, doesn't she?
Probably at least some of it.  The problem is that someone finagled the cable/satellite outfits to carry that channel so they get a small amount of money for every home that gets it.  It doesn't necessarily matter if anyone watches it.  At least, that is what I am learning looking at how the SEC channel and the LHN channel were set up.  I think that is why CNN and MSNBC can afford to pay anchors a lot of money even though their ratings suck.
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Re: Can it come back to life for a while?
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2015, 05:44:21 PM »
Probably at least some of it.  The problem is that someone finagled the cable/satellite outfits to carry that channel so they get a small amount of money for every home that gets it.  It doesn't necessarily matter if anyone watches it.  At least, that is what I am learning looking at how the SEC channel and the LHN channel were set up.  I think that is why CNN and MSNBC can afford to pay anchors a lot of money even though their ratings suck.

Which is why you have to order "packages" of networks and not subscribe/order ala carte.   It's bad enough that you have to pay for it, it's even worse when you then have to watch commercials on what you have already paid for.
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