Author Topic: Confidential docs seized during unrelated raid.  (Read 6142 times)

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Re: Confidential docs seized during unrelated raid.
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2013, 02:19:14 AM »
This, and

How do DC beat cops and SWAT officers, serving a fairly mundane warrant for contraband guns and ammo... even know what classified/confidential/sensitive government information looks like?


They normally say " [Agency Name] For Official Use Only" or "Sensitive" or some such in large colored letters.  It's not that hard to tell.  If they saw the header page without the FOIA request attached it would look suspicious.

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Re: Re: Re: Confidential docs seized during unrelated raid.
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2013, 05:09:18 AM »
They normally say " [Agency Name] For Official Use Only" or "Sensitive" or some such in large colored letters.  It's not that hard to tell.  If they saw the header page without the FOIA request attached it would look suspicious.
yup and in one of the articles thats exactly what is described in the affadavit.
did the reporter not look at post raid paperwork?
the documents she "didn't know were missing" were on the receipt.


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Re: Re: Confidential docs seized during unrelated raid.
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2013, 05:56:58 AM »
Just one more reason to not keep physical documents and only retain digital copies in encrypted format.

Been paying attention to the news about the NSA recently?  Encryption isn't going to save you if they have a zero day exploit into your system.

physical copies are actually better in this case.  Just be sure you encode/use pseudonyms for any personally identifiable information for your sources.

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Re: Re: Confidential docs seized during unrelated raid.
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2013, 06:00:48 AM »
Been paying attention to the news about the NSA recently?  Encryption isn't going to save you if they have a zero day exploit into your system.

physical copies are actually better in this case.  Just be sure you encode/use pseudonyms for any personally identifiable information for your sources.

Encrypt the computer enough that they'll take it to the lab.  Thermite and a RFID trigger in your laptop an antenna built into your front door.  Laptop outgates the house.....fwoosh.

 >:D >:D


(this might end up with added charges depending on how fast the guy taking the laptop drops it but they won't have your data.)

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Re: Confidential docs seized during unrelated raid.
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2013, 07:44:23 AM »
Ah, yes.  General Warrants make a return to the present.  Seems such warrants were a major irritant to the colonists and a precipitant of the revolution.  A Start Page search of general warrants show a lot of activity with the concept here and now.

https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/att/generalwarrantsmemo.pdf  is of particular interest due to its brevity and source.  The nut
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Re: Re: Confidential docs seized during unrelated raid.
« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2013, 08:35:46 AM »
thanks i learned sumthin today
i don't believe this was a general warrant.

i wonder if thet realize how far up the creek he is and are looking for any legal crevice to hide in
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Re: Confidential docs seized during unrelated raid.
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2013, 11:28:44 AM »
Ah, yes.  General Warrants make a return to the present.  Seems such warrants were a major irritant to the colonists and a precipitant of the revolution.  A Start Page search of general warrants show a lot of activity with the concept here and now.

https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/att/generalwarrantsmemo.pdf  is of particular interest due to its brevity and source.  The nut

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