Post by: Cromlech on July 15, 2007, 06:10:51 AM
Of course for some of you who have actually served in the military, you might find it to be a load of crap (you can fly easily with a keyboard, and the tank driver also controls the main gun). 
Here is a 'forum friendly' sized screenshot image:
I have also taken the liberty of providing some screenshots for you all (maxed out graphics settings at 2048x1536 resolution). Be warned that these images are NOT dial-up modem friendly, and will cause lesser systems to cry.
I may try to get more, if anybody would like that, or if not, I'll go sit in the corner and be quiet.
If you play other similar online games, feel free to talk about them here.
Post by: bunni on July 15, 2007, 06:14:26 AM
I remember the days of dial-up Rainbow Six (the 1998 original) - now that was a good time.
Post by: Cromlech on July 15, 2007, 06:19:00 AM
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 15, 2007, 07:17:45 AM
I've played 2142 but it works my system pretty hard, so I mostly stick to BF2 and the Spec Ops pack. I really like infantry only and tend to be a Karkand whore. I just got the unlocks for gunner, and tend to score the most with the gunner kit, or from the top of a HMMV in a vehicle map.
I need to get back into using teamspeak or voip for it.
Post by: Cromlech on July 15, 2007, 08:08:47 AM
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on July 15, 2007, 12:12:03 PM
Post by: Cromlech on July 15, 2007, 02:03:49 PM
Post by: Sergeant Bob on July 15, 2007, 02:36:40 PM
We all talk together on Teamspeak and some of us have even met some of the others. The English guys all know each other now (since they started playing together) and some of the Yanks have met up too. One of the Brit's came over here on vacation and met one of our members in Cali. The Aussie (we call him Aussie) plans on taking his vacation over here next year and should meet a few of us.
I've made quite a few friends online gaming.
Post by: Marnoot on July 15, 2007, 02:46:10 PM
Post by: Cromlech on July 15, 2007, 02:51:51 PM
Post by: Marnoot on July 15, 2007, 02:53:18 PM
http://forgottenhope.filefront.com/main.php?id%5Fnews=209&module=news&lang=english&flash=yes&mod=
Post by: Mabs2 on July 15, 2007, 04:05:06 PM
I tried BF2 and every shot I fired missed no matter how dead on my crosshairs/sights were.
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 15, 2007, 06:34:50 PM
Did you unlock the PKM or MG36? I have both now, but I prefer the PKM. I am usually found playing as the anti-tank kit, as I am that jammy git that sits around and waits for opportunities to take out jeeps full of people, or planes taking off, or attacj helicopters.
The weird thing was I got both unlocks when I got Gunny. I found the MG36 to be more effective and quicker to reload than the PKM.
I prefer to find an intersection and mow down troops trying to get through it.....
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 15, 2007, 06:35:56 PM
Can't stand games that make me depend on luck to get kills.
I tried BF2 and every shot I fired missed no matter how dead on my crosshairs/sights were.
I tried BF2 and every shot I fired missed no matter how dead on my crosshairs/sights were.
It ain't luck. Some weapons are intentionally less accurate. Firing the SAW from standing is horribly inaccurate, but about 200% more effective from the prone.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 15, 2007, 07:14:48 PM
I played 1942 a bit. It was a good game. I liked playing the scout and sniping from long distance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2PqPNRF1Ic
Amusing video. Headbanging 1942 style.
And the plane in the first shot up there is wrong. It's being flown correctly. It should be upside-down right above its own troops, about to crash, because it was taken by the n00b trying to fly it from their failing PIII on dialup.
I want to try Red Orchestra as well. That one's supposed to be fun. I also miss the older games that didn't bog down the machine so much, but allowed for lots of players and mayhem. I still have old memories of 80 player wars in Tribes II, flying a fully crewed bomber with Rammstein (appropriate for people in heavy powered armor) playing on the in-game MP3. And jumping into the pilot seat of a fully crewed enemy Havoc, making off with it and pulling a D.B. Cooper just before it and its players slammed into their own base in blazing Bruckheimer-esque action-movie drama was always fun chaos. Then there was always transport-tipping with a shocklance...
Post by: Marnoot on July 15, 2007, 07:56:01 PM
RO also tends to have a much lower quantity of immature players, as younger geeks aren't too excited by the high level of realism. The game's at it's best when you're with a good, cooperative team that's communicating well with VOIP. If you're in a tank as a gunner or driver, and you know what you're doing and so does the other guy, and you're communicating well, you can really wreak some havoc. Of course, there's always the occasional smacktard who jumps in your tank you'd been in alone and drives off right when you were about to nail that perfect long-range shot.
Post by: Mabs2 on July 15, 2007, 08:02:40 PM
Post by: Cromlech on July 15, 2007, 10:52:46 PM
I would suggest that you work towards obtaining the Medic kit unlock, our L85A1 (SA80) Just like our Army, you get the SUSAT x4 scope as standard, and let me tell you, that thing set to semi-automatic, is a great medium range counter-sniper weapon.
Post by: Cromlech on July 16, 2007, 02:44:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYJ36MIdPO4
Post by: HankB on July 16, 2007, 03:44:45 AM
Can't stand games that make me depend on luck to get kills. I tried BF2 and every shot I fired missed no matter how dead on my crosshairs/sights were.
I have to echo this comment - getting decisive hits with the sniper rifle, even on a stationary target, was a matter of luck. The SAW was nearly worthless, unless the bad guy were so close that in real life he'd be burned by the muzzle flash. The fixed-position machine guns were a different matter, but the limited traverse was frustrating.Usually I play solo - I don't play any game enough to become competitive in an "on line" environment - and despite the single-player info on the box, I found that BF2 really sucks in single-player. Heck, for some of the single-player missions, you STILL have to long on - what's with that?
Bah.
Post by: Cromlech on July 16, 2007, 12:52:53 PM
Oh yeah, and for those of you only satisfied by realism, there are plenty of mods out there that correct the stats.
Post by: HankB on July 17, 2007, 05:16:02 AM
It isn't.
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 17, 2007, 05:53:48 AM
Its a video game. It ain't perfect.
Post by: Cromlech on July 17, 2007, 12:56:14 PM
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 17, 2007, 01:23:31 PM
You know what it could be? Lag. This game is known to have a few faults in that area, in that if you have a high ping, your shots may end up way off. If however, your connection is top notch, and you are having trouble, I don't know what the answer is. Seems fine to me.
Good point. My connection is great, my PC is decent.
Post by: Cromlech on July 17, 2007, 02:03:40 PM
Post by: Mabs2 on July 18, 2007, 08:59:58 AM
Infiltration was an amazing FPS. Bullets actually went where you aimed them, etc.
Counter-Strike is pretty fun when you get in with a good group of guys, "OK MENS LET'S TRY TO KNIFE EVERYONE ON THE OTHER TEAM...NEXT ROUND OUR TEAM!" Good times, even when FF is off.
I still prefer the depth of a single player game. More and more I see the market shift to MP only. Especially the mod scene. Every HL2 mod that I see is either just new maps or totally multiplayer. Kind of depressing. I've had to resort to playing older games like Doom, Deus Ex, Thief, etc to get a good single player experience.
Post by: HankB on July 18, 2007, 11:07:11 AM
I've had to resort to playing older games like Doom, Deus Ex, Thief, etc to get a good single player experience.
Ah, yes, the early days with games like Doom, Doom 2, Hexen . . . Actually, for single-player first person shooters, I kind of like Unreal II . . . there's even one level where you use the sniper rifle almost exclusively . . . othewise, the games tend to blur together . . . same game, different graphics.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 18, 2007, 12:30:26 PM
More recently, Geist had a neat twist, being that it followed the Half Life model, but...you were sort of already dead. So you could possess guards, scientists and workers, even guard dogs, having them go about their duties to avoid suspicion while you were actually in control. You see through their eyes, and recall some of their recent memories, too. You could also possess equipment, causing it to burn out, bulbs to crackle and pop, paint cans to dent out and then splatter to freak people out... It got to be WAY too much fun...especially since all the personnel start getting paranoid about each other after a few incidents of "friendly fire", since you could have possessed any of them.
Post by: Cromlech on July 18, 2007, 12:36:32 PM
Post by: Manedwolf on July 18, 2007, 12:42:21 PM
I have Red Faction (got it when it came out). It is indeed a very good game, and much better than the sequel. The PC version is awesome, what with the mods and multiplayer (plus the PC allows for more GeoMod fun).
Also. Best. Rail Driver. Ever.
Thermal imaging through walls. See people moving around as orange-to-red outlines in blue. Target. Send hypervelocity metal rod through wall. Hear gurgling scream, watch crumple and fall.
I still don't know what happened to the engine from that game. So many games since, and they've lacked the ability to realistically shatter rock, concrete and other materials like that had, going right back to the old boring "the scenery is indestructible" model of gaming.
It was incredibly satisfying to send a rocket launcher shot into a guard station and not just break the windows, but have the windows crack and fall as safety glass bits, lights go out, and structure fail with blown-out concrete chunks, holes, and soot damage where you hit it, not just as a scripted destruction event (like Black). That, and the glass debris was persistent, so you could hear it crunch underfoot as you walked up to the wreckage.
The vehicles were cool, too.
Post by: Cromlech on July 18, 2007, 01:25:35 PM
Post by: Mabs2 on July 18, 2007, 04:27:35 PM
Geist sounds good too.
I might look into them.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 19, 2007, 01:39:14 AM
Here's a trailer for the first one. Was absolutely brilliant. And yes, they totally stole the Mars mine drillers from Total Recall, there's lots of other tributes to that in there, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkKGcfE9nPg
Post by: Cromlech on July 19, 2007, 02:04:00 AM
Post by: Manedwolf on July 19, 2007, 03:54:35 AM
I have the PC version, and I also had the PS2 version, until I gave the PS2 and games to my brother. The PC version is much better. Multiplayer Red Faction is an old favourite of mine. Make sure to grab the machinegun, the rocket launcher, or the Precision rifle for maximum pwnage.
Fusion rocket FTW. That was the "OH SH_ !!!" insane level of hurt. (and usually took out a major wall, too)
And I've hung onto the PS2 because they keep coming out with brilliantly written games for it like Psychonauts (Tim Schaefer needs to write for movies) and Okami, which is nothing short of art. The PS3 has nothing but glossy, bland showpieces.
Post by: Cromlech on July 19, 2007, 12:50:08 PM
Post by: Manedwolf on July 19, 2007, 01:09:45 PM
Haha, yes! I remember seeing the rockets coming toward me at an alarming speed, and thinking to myself "Oh, poo."
Hey, extreme overkill is fun in team games. I believe the most extreme I'd ever seen was way back with the original Half Life deathmatch. Someone set up about 40-50 laser tripmines in a corridor. Someone ran in there. The explosion was enough to cause the scenery to actually fail and the map to flicker transparent, sound cutting in and out.
Post by: Cromlech on July 19, 2007, 02:59:27 PM
Post by: Cromlech on July 27, 2007, 09:27:04 AM
http://www.realitymod.com/
Some destructible terrain, more realistic damage taken from weapons, and real squad/platoon based action. Be warned that you may need a more powerful system than normal to run this mod, especially in the RAM area of things.There is a good video trailer for this modification on the page I have linked to, for you guys to check out.
Post by: Phyphor on July 27, 2007, 11:54:49 AM
I've had to resort to playing older games like Doom, Deus Ex, Thief, etc to get a good single player experience.
Ah, yes, the early days with games like Doom, Doom 2, Hexen . . . Actually Deus Ex and Thief were a bit later than Doom / etc.
DX has a multiplayer component too that can be extremely fun with the right settings and people.
Thief has a mod for Unreal Tournament (1998, don't know if they made a later one) called Thievery. Totally cool, and faithful to the Thief series.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 27, 2007, 12:10:03 PM
Unfortunately, it was also too confining and suffered from an inexcusable amount of bugs. Wonderful premise and possibiities, messed up.
But you got to fire a rocket launcher into a Starbucks-like coffee shop and send burning chairs and broken cups flying, and kill people by bouncing a stainless carafe off their head, so...
I also liked the idea that if you stupidly opened fire in a nightclub, all the patrons screamed and fled from all levels out the front door, and the police forces came in. Plus I cheered when Chicago got turned into grey goo by a runaway nanotech weapon. I'm still hoping for a 3 with the design ethic of 2, but a GTA-sized open cyberpunk city. That would be absolute paradise.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 27, 2007, 12:14:20 PM
Post by: Cromlech on July 27, 2007, 01:21:16 PM