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Title: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: K Frame on December 21, 2020, 10:02:10 AM
"Individuals, including children, will receive $600 in direct payements. A family of four could end up with $2,400. The payments decrease for people who made more than $75,000 during 2019. They would phase out completely for people who made above $99,000 in income for that year."

Looks like I'm not.  =|
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: charby on December 21, 2020, 10:06:48 AM
"Individuals, including children, will receive $600 in direct payements. A family of four could end up with $2,400. The payments decrease for people who made more than $75,000 during 2019. They would phase out completely for people who made above $99,000 in income for that year."

Looks like I'm not.  =|

But will you be able to claim it as a tax credit on your income taxes like the stimulus 1 was for those who didn't qualify?



Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: K Frame on December 21, 2020, 10:15:53 AM
No clue.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: grampster on December 21, 2020, 11:04:09 AM
I hadn't thought about this before:  Do we have to claim the original $1200 freebie from Uncle Sam Sadie as income when we file our 2020 taxes?
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Ron on December 21, 2020, 11:06:15 AM
https://www.aarp.org/money/taxes/info-2020/are-stimulus-checks-taxed.html

Quote
Some people assume that the IRS will add the amount to your income, generating a bigger tax bill, or reduce your future tax refund when you file your tax return next year. Neither is the case, but this bears some explaining.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Ben on December 21, 2020, 11:16:45 AM
This last go round is ridiculous. I'm normally against the gov handouts, but since gov locked things down with bias (actors can work, restaurant servers can't), I don't mind money going to help individuals.

What I do mind is, what does this lousy $600 do now?  A better use of all this money would have been $600/mo to everyone for the last six months, while they argue about which of their favorite entities/programs (both left and right) get the other billions of dollars.

Trump said months ago that he would immediately sign $1200 per person as a stand alone. That would have helped individuals at a more appropriate time, but of course he was kiboshed. The $600 might have helped people in June. At this point, most people are where they are, good or bad. $600 isn't much more helpful at this point than back when W Bush gave everybody a one time payment of a hundred bucks.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Jim147 on December 21, 2020, 11:19:10 AM
If you got an interest refund due to IRS slow processing you return it is taxable if over $10.00. I think we got a check for $11.30.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Brad Johnson on December 21, 2020, 12:04:10 PM
SWMBO and I are in an odd place. I make under the limit for max stimulation, SWMBO makes over the limit for any stimulation. Jointly we were mid-stimulation with my cals showing each of us getting something like $800. Only it didn't happen that way. I got a full check and she got nothing. I guess only being married for a couple months of 2019 means the IRS considers us as individuals when it comes to being stimulated. Weird.

Brad
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: MillCreek on December 21, 2020, 01:03:20 PM
Neither my wife nor I look to be eligible for the latest round of stimulus.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Fly320s on December 21, 2020, 01:13:01 PM
I don't qualify and I don't want it anyway.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: dogmush on December 21, 2020, 01:15:18 PM
It's the same qualifications as last time, right?  We got the last one, so I assume we'll get this one.  (Tax Free Deployment pay FTW).
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Northwoods on December 21, 2020, 01:23:10 PM
Assuming the income thresholds from last time remains we should get $3600 if I’m reading it right as we have 4 kids.

However, I don’t need it, and would just as soon not get it.  Since I know I’ll be paying for it with interest the rest of my life.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: charby on December 21, 2020, 02:54:26 PM
This bill is 5500+ pages long. Nuts.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Ben on December 21, 2020, 02:55:49 PM
This bill is 5500+ pages long. Nuts.

So nuts that AOC and Ted Cruz (and me) actually agree on something:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/12/21/congress-is-broken-aoc-says-she-will-get-in-trouble-but-slams-congress-for-rushing-vote-on-2-5-trillion-spending-bill-ted-cruz-assist/
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: charby on December 21, 2020, 03:21:37 PM
So nuts that AOC and Ted Cruz (and me) actually agree on something:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/12/21/congress-is-broken-aoc-says-she-will-get-in-trouble-but-slams-congress-for-rushing-vote-on-2-5-trillion-spending-bill-ted-cruz-assist/

Probably didn't include any of her pet projects, so she's blamestorming.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Ron on December 21, 2020, 03:37:35 PM
Thanks for paying for my car registration and insurance this January Uncle Sam.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Ben on December 21, 2020, 03:49:24 PM
Probably didn't include any of her pet projects, so she's blamestorming.

I think she's being genuine, and I have to grudgingly respect that. There should be a "Pelosi rule" that results in politicians getting shot if they utter the phrase, "We have to pass it to see what's in it."

That goes for both sides of the aisle.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: charby on December 21, 2020, 03:55:00 PM
There should be a "Pelosi rule" that results in politicians getting shot if they utter the phrase, "We have to pass it to see what's in it."

That goes for both sides of the aisle.

Sound good to me, or at least take a finger every time they utter the phrase.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Ben on December 21, 2020, 05:25:14 PM
Here's some of what is in the bill. Real nice.  :mad:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/12/21/they-hate-you-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-includes-no-less-than-10-million-for-gender-programs-in-pakistan/
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 21, 2020, 05:31:00 PM
Here's some of what is in the bill. Real nice.  :mad:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/12/21/they-hate-you-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-includes-no-less-than-10-million-for-gender-programs-in-pakistan/

Just saw that.

Gender programs in Pakistan?

“Climate Security Advisory Council”?

“the Horseracing Integrity and Safety Act of 2020” ?

gender inequality among statues?

Seriously, what the effing eff?

 [ar15]

Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Ben on December 21, 2020, 06:13:59 PM
Quote
Tim Young
@TimRunsHisMouth
·
2h
The Kennedy Center is getting another $14 million in this stimulus bill... that means they've gotten $40.4 total so far...

Enjoy your $600, peasants.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: WLJ on December 21, 2020, 06:46:08 PM
Just saw that.

Gender programs in Pakistan?

“Climate Security Advisory Council”?

“the Horseracing Integrity and Safety Act of 2020” ?

gender inequality among statues?

Seriously, what the effing eff?

 [ar15]



(https://i.redd.it/cf1cdxqz9s331.jpg)
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 21, 2020, 07:39:37 PM
... and the joker will (probably) get sworn in next month.





Now this is a stimulus I could support:
(https://i.imgur.com/o9QKIyC.jpg)
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Lennyjoe on December 21, 2020, 08:24:30 PM
No soup for me.  Wife gets it though if they look at individual income and not combined
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Northwoods on December 21, 2020, 08:27:31 PM
No soup for me.  Wife gets it though if they look at individual income and not combined

If you filed as married joint it should be based on your combined income.  Limit is $150k for married-joint filing people.  At least it was last time.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Boomhauer on December 21, 2020, 09:24:13 PM
According to the bill, everyfuckingbody except ordinary Americans is stimulated to the tune of billions.

Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Ron on December 21, 2020, 09:27:02 PM
Merry Griftmas!
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Jim147 on December 21, 2020, 09:27:57 PM
So much pork they should give every person a side of bacon.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Ron on December 21, 2020, 09:32:26 PM
A pigs foot in every pot!

Let them eat donuts!
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: MechAg94 on December 21, 2020, 09:57:40 PM
I didn't get anything last time.  I don't expect anything this time.  I don't need it anyway. 
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 22, 2020, 06:53:34 PM
(https://i.ruqqus.com/post/5znx/j46Kc0dVq3w)
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: DittoHead on December 22, 2020, 08:31:00 PM
Quote from: https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-trump-shreds-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-demands-congress-give-significantly-larger-checks
I’m asking Congress to amend this bill and increase the ridiculously low $600 to $2,000 or $4,000 for a couple,” Trump continued.
  :O
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Ben on December 22, 2020, 08:44:08 PM
  :O

Full quote:

Quote
“I’m asking Congress to amend this bill and increase the ridiculously low $600 to $2,000 or $4,000 for a couple,” Trump continued. “I’m also asking Congress to immediately get rid of the wasteful and unnecessary items from this legislation and to send me a suitable bill or else the next administration will have to deliver a COVID relief package.”

As it should be.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: MechAg94 on December 22, 2020, 08:46:45 PM
Do any of you see any chance Trump will VETO this as an FU to the establishment on his way out?
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Northwoods on December 22, 2020, 08:57:11 PM
Do any of you see any chance Trump will VETO this as an FU to the establishment on his way out?

That would be the best thing possible.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 22, 2020, 09:11:37 PM
That would be the best thing possible.

Given the broad bipartisan support for this boondoggle, Congress would probably override.  The Senate vote was 92-6 and the House voted 359-53 to pass.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/massive-covid-relief-and-1-4t-government-funding-package-passes-house-vote-senate-expected-to-follow/ar-BB1c7P2Y

Both parties are to blame for this mess.  Words cannot express my disgust.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Nick1911 on December 22, 2020, 09:18:36 PM
What a mess.  That's what, 10k per taxpayer worth of additional national debt?

The choices of our government are not sustainable.  Eventually this house of cards will fall in upon itself.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Boomhauer on December 22, 2020, 09:21:01 PM
So I’ve been hearing that this is an omnibus spending bill which means Trump can change a lot of it. True?
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 22, 2020, 09:22:42 PM
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1341540480320827392
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: BobR on December 22, 2020, 09:47:28 PM
Do any of you see any chance Trump will VETO this as an FU to the establishment on his way out?

I'd buy that for a dollar!!!

bob
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: DittoHead on December 22, 2020, 10:05:24 PM
Quote from: Nancy Pelosi
At last, the President has agreed to $2,000 — Democrats are ready to bring this to the Floor this week by unanimous consent. Let’s do it!
Look at that beautiful bipartisan agreement.
 [barf]
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Jim147 on December 22, 2020, 10:14:01 PM
We can just tax the Rich and everything will be fine.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Fly320s on December 22, 2020, 10:18:17 PM
$600 * 328,000,000 people = $196,800,000,000.   $196.8 billion.  This bill is for $900 billion.   

Where is the other $700 billion going?
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Jim147 on December 22, 2020, 10:19:24 PM
Here piggy piggy piggy.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 24, 2020, 01:08:57 AM
From Lin Wood:

https://parler.com/post/5db094eb132a40b592491cf88e5eb072

(https://api.parler.com/l/wrfYK)

I have not seen confirmation of this.  Yet.

Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: HeroHog on December 24, 2020, 01:11:27 AM
It's there. He can initiate it BUT Congress has to approve it. [barf]
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: cordex on December 24, 2020, 10:09:28 AM
$600 * 328,000,000 people = $196,800,000,000.   $196.8 billion.  This bill is for $900 billion.   

Where is the other $700 billion going?
Some of it is going toward the increased unemployment and expanded PPP.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 24, 2020, 10:49:23 AM
Some of it is going toward the increased unemployment and expanded PPP.

... and some of it is going to "gender programs" in Pakistan.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Ben on December 24, 2020, 10:51:57 AM
... and some of it is going to "gender programs" in Pakistan.


And Kennedy Center got more, even though actors appear to be "essential personnel", get to work, and trump restaurant owners, even if the restaurant is 50' from the movie set.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: WLJ on December 24, 2020, 11:12:33 AM
... and some of it is going to "gender programs" in Pakistan.


And fighting gender inequality in statues
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Lennyjoe on December 24, 2020, 05:58:28 PM
I read somewhere Trump wanted $2K per and under $175K filing joint.  If they change it to that then we’d get stimulated but if it remains $150K were out.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: bedlamite on December 24, 2020, 08:17:24 PM
(https://irate4x4.com/filedata/fetch?id=244799&d=1608840465)
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Boomhauer on December 28, 2020, 06:31:41 AM
Trump signed it  ;/
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Ron on December 28, 2020, 09:20:34 AM
A some point the Republicans in Congress need to be held accountable  :rofl:

There are zero leaders in the House or Senate who are able to slow this stuff down.

The problem, as always, is holding Republicans accountable would end up with Democrats having complete control over both houses. The results of that probably wouldn't be that dramatically different.

The public has been trained to accept this, to vote for it and to ignore the waste. Everyone on the right expects the Republicans to vote like Democrats once they get in office.

We aren't voting ourselves out of this mess.

There will be slow decline and dissolution/collapse or civil war long before voting fixes anything.



Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: lee n. field on December 28, 2020, 10:01:35 AM
What a mess.  That's what, 10k per taxpayer worth of additional national debt?

The choices of our government are not sustainable.  Eventually this house of cards will fall in upon itself.

Our rep keeps chattering on on her Book of Faces, about all the wonderful things she and the House D.'s are voting for.  Never, ever, ever talk about how it's getting paid for.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: lee n. field on December 28, 2020, 10:02:11 AM
$600 * 328,000,000 people = $196,800,000,000.   $196.8 billion.  This bill is for $900 billion.   

Where is the other $700 billion going?

Pakistani transgenders.  China.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: bedlamite on December 28, 2020, 10:20:25 AM
(https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/07-big-pg-li-1080-1050x750.jpg)
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: WLJ on December 29, 2020, 09:30:54 AM
But wait there's more

House approves Trump's $2K checks, sending to GOP-led Senate
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/house-approves-trumps-2k-checks-sending-to-gop-led-senate/article_2c26a5a5-ae64-518f-8f5a-a7927ad51f98.html
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: RocketMan on December 29, 2020, 11:22:12 AM
So, are the $2k Trump checks going to replace the $600 Pelosi checks for ice cream, or will they be in addition to her checks?

ETA:  Just saw a story headline that the $2k Trump checks replace the $600 Pelosi checks.  I guess there won't be any fancy ice cream for me.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Northwoods on December 29, 2020, 11:28:58 AM
Not that they should, but what are the odds of the Senate approving $2k checks?
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Fly320s on December 29, 2020, 11:35:29 AM
Not that they should, but what are the odds of the Senate approving $2k checks?

Entirely dependent on how much bribery pork progressive subsidies are included in the bill.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: MechAg94 on December 29, 2020, 11:53:28 AM
Are there any changes to who gets the money? 

If not, I guess I am paying for all of it and getting nothing myself.   =D
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 29, 2020, 11:58:02 AM
So, are the $2k Trump checks going to replace the $600 Pelosi checks for ice cream, or will they be in addition to her checks?

ETA:  Just saw a story headline that the $2k Trump checks replace the $600 Pelosi checks.  I guess there won't be any fancy ice cream for me.

And yet again another example of Trump taking $600 from needy Americans.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: RocketMan on December 29, 2020, 02:40:40 PM
McConnell has blocked any vote on stimulizing Americans with $2000 for the time being.  He says he needs to bring the Senate into focus on that and two other important issues.  Given that there are only a couple of days left in the session, I doubt anything he wants to "bring into focus" will actually get done.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: K Frame on December 30, 2020, 10:25:26 PM
Just got my stimulus notification.

$65...

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Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Lennyjoe on December 30, 2020, 10:39:23 PM
Mike that’s enough to take the Mrs. out to dinner at Texas Roadhouse!
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Ron on December 30, 2020, 11:23:57 PM
Just to be clear, the Republican Senate voted for the bloated omnibus bill that funds all kinds of crazy BS here and abroad but will not spread the graft to the American people.

Everyone gets a piece of the action except for the American people.

This is your government in action.







Title: Re: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: K Frame on December 31, 2020, 06:50:27 AM
Mike that’s enough to take the Mrs. out to dinner at Texas Roadhouse!
My ex wife can buy her own damned dinner.

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Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: mgdavis on December 31, 2020, 01:22:26 PM
Uncle Sugar just sent me $600. I didn't think I'd be getting anything due to my wife's immigration status, but it seems that this bill changed some of the requirements. It is a welcome surprise; said wife just had to have her appendix removed last week and this will help with whatever medical expenses stem from that.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Lennyjoe on December 31, 2020, 04:30:43 PM
Kids got it today.  We were exempt.  Even when we got it last go around ( just under the max earnings since they used our 2018 return AGI) we put it aside in case the kids struggled during the lockdowns.  They didn’t so it’s held in reserve until things get back to normal, whatever that is anyway.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 01, 2021, 12:37:07 AM
https://babylonbee.com/news/gun-stores-overwhelmed-by-people-returning-600-guns-for-2000-guns
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: MechAg94 on January 01, 2021, 07:04:47 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/gun-stores-overwhelmed-by-people-returning-600-guns-for-2000-guns

I saw that on Instagram and didn't understand the joke.  I finally got it.   =)

Maybe it is because I won't get anything.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: T.O.M. on January 02, 2021, 09:54:08 AM
I don't understand in the least.  SWMBO and I combined are over the limit, and the kids are college students so don't qualify.  We got $1,200 deposited in our account...
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: Fly320s on January 02, 2021, 09:56:18 AM
https://babylonbee.com/news/gun-stores-overwhelmed-by-people-returning-600-guns-for-2000-guns


The joke is on them; all guns are $2,000 guns in this pandemic economy.  =D
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: WLJ on January 02, 2021, 11:00:51 AM
Meanwhile at Mitch McConnell's house

Sen. Mitch McConnell's Louisville home vandalized
https://www.wdrb.com/news/sen-mitch-mcconnells-louisville-home-vandalized/article_62eca8c2-4d0b-11eb-9b7d-cf36ca105b39.html

And at Nancy P's

Speaker Pelosi's house vandalized with graffiti, pig head: reports
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/speaker-pelosis-house-vandalized-with-graffiti-pig-head-reports/article_d56795d6-4d0d-11eb-abb7-43ce687e39ea.html
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: HeroHog on January 02, 2021, 03:58:10 PM
We got it in the 1st round but, so far, not this round.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: dogmush on January 02, 2021, 06:22:05 PM
Meanwhile at Mitch McConnell's house

Sen. Mitch McConnell's Louisville home vandalized
https://www.wdrb.com/news/sen-mitch-mcconnells-louisville-home-vandalized/article_62eca8c2-4d0b-11eb-9b7d-cf36ca105b39.html

And at Nancy P's

Speaker Pelosi's house vandalized with graffiti, pig head: reports
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/speaker-pelosis-house-vandalized-with-graffiti-pig-head-reports/article_d56795d6-4d0d-11eb-abb7-43ce687e39ea.html


Behold true bipartisanship.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: cordex on January 02, 2021, 07:48:35 PM

Behold true bipartisanship.
???
How so?
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: dogmush on January 03, 2021, 06:18:47 AM
I was be Snarky because both parties have folks fed up with them to the point of vandalism.

The vandals are being bipartisan to ensure everyone's house gets messed up.
Title: Re: Who's getting stimulized this go around?
Post by: cordex on January 03, 2021, 08:09:00 AM
I was be Snarky because both parties have folks fed up with them to the point of vandalism.

The vandals are being bipartisan to ensure everyone's house gets messed up.
I see.  My impression was that the vandals in both cases likely came from the same side of the political spectrum so it didn’t strike me bipartisan from that perspective, but from the perspective of the hard left’s “liberals get the bullet too” I guess so.