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Grandpa Shooter:
We are just barely out of the conventions and already the pace of name calling and slurs has escalated.  I can't remember the last time we had an election which was about the issues and NOT about giving offense or claiming to be offended.

Can any of you think of when the last "clean and focused" campaign and election took place?  I remember back to Kennedy/Nixon and can't think of one since way back then.  All that was about was the fear that Kennedy would sell us out to the Vatican. 

AZRedhawk44:

--- Quote ---I can't remember the last time we had an election which was about the issues and NOT about giving offense or claiming to be offended.
Modern lefty candidates can't win if we stick to issues.  You start to argue issues, and you get into rights and political theory, ultimately exposing socialism in their theories.  They then start with the indignant declarations of dirty campaigning.

I'd absolutely eat-up 4 hours of real debate between McCain and Obama.  Let's spend an HOUR debating the future of social security.  Another HOUR talking about state-funded health care.  And so on.

Any time someone veers off-topic, they get cut off by the moderator.  Or some other penalty.  Maybe sharks, with laser beams.  Or ill-tempered sea bass.

Tell me how you'll pay for it (or how you'll cut taxes as a result!).  Use a side-screen visual aide if you need to, or a projector in the debate hall.  Come prepared.  Give them the topics in advance, give each 15 minutes to present a cogent plan, 15 minutes of 90 second point-counterpoint arguments between each other, and 15 minutes of questions from the moderators or other sources.

Call each other commies, fascists, idealists, Randian terrorists, Orwellian uber-pigs, whatever.  Get dirty.  But use the issues.

Frankly, I'd be okay with every vapid, facet-less, answerless politician being dragged to death by an 18 wheeler.  Or a team of horses.  Or mountain rams.  Yeah.  Mountain rams would be good.

MechAg94:
The last clean and focused campaign.  George Washington?  I think Thomas Jefferson and James Madison both got near unanimous decisions in electoral college.  I think that was the last time.

Jamisjockey:

--- Quote from: Grandpa Shooter on September 10, 2008, 07:02:24 AM ---We are just barely out of the conventions and already the pace of name calling and slurs has escalated.  I can't remember the last time we had an election which was about the issues and NOT about giving offense or claiming to be offended.

Can any of you think of when the last "clean and focused" campaign and election took place?  I remember back to Kennedy/Nixon and can't think of one since way back then.  All that was about was the fear that Kennedy would sell us out to the Vatican. 

Both candidates are tools who can barely run on thier individual issues as is.....time to fling monkey poo!

MicroBalrog:

--- Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on September 10, 2008, 07:22:25 AM ---

Tell me how you'll pay for it (or how you'll cut taxes as a result!).  Use a side-screen visual aide if you need to, or a projector in the debate hall.  Come prepared.  Give them the topics in advance, give each 15 minutes to present a cogent plan, 15 minutes of 90 second point-counterpoint arguments between each other, and 15 minutes of questions from the moderators or other sources.


See. None of them would DARE to go for something like this. People are scared as hell to debate actual issues.

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